Why do you dislike Jews?

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brilliant. And I therefore cannot get a job for which I might be eminently qualified because you see the stereotype and not me. 
You would however live in a society where you are less likelynto get robbed by a retarded black kid who thinks he is emulating Tupac Shakur. Isn't it worth it for you to not be a music producer if it also means you libe in a safe country? 
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I see that as a false binary. 
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I see that as a false binary. 
You just dropped another choice to be likeable.
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Tell us about how God showed his backside to Jews.
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Tell us about how God showed his backside to Jews.
After the Jews made the covenant of circumcision with God, Moses asked God to show them his dick.
Exodus 33:18
18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”

But God replied no one can see my front or they will die.
Exodus 33:20 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my front, for no one may see it and live.”

Then God showed the Jews his backside instead.
Exodus 33:23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my backside; but my front must not be seen.”

This is why the Jews did not recognize Jesus as God because they could not compare their backsides.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
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AI Overview

During World War I, some Jewish people in Germany did indeed choose to invest in gold rather than war bonds, primarily because of concerns about potential economic instability and the possibility of future persecution, which unfortunately became a reality with the rise of Nazi Germany later on; this allowed them to safeguard some assets if the German economy collapsed or if they needed to flee the country. 

Key points about this situation:
  • Fear of instability:
    As a tangible asset, gold was seen as a more secure investment than war bonds, especially given the uncertainty of the war's outcome and potential economic repercussions.  
  • Antisemitism concerns: While not widespread during WWI, growing antisemitic sentiment in Germany made some Jewish people wary of fully committing to the war effort, leading them to seek ways to protect their wealth. 
  • Swiss banking: Many Jewish people in Germany chose to deposit their gold in Swiss banks, known for their neutrality and secure banking systems, as a way to safeguard their assets from potential confiscation. 

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@Wylted, 

They get a lot of free passes though. Okay so if you look at engineers by average IQ, then engineers probably have a 140 average, but if you take the jews out the jews who are engineers will have a 130 IQ. So why would the average non jew need a higher IQ to achieve the same results? The reason must be that Jews are getting free handouts somewhere.
OK, this is just BS.

You have no evidence that non-Jewish engineers have a 140 IQ, and you have no evidence that Jewish Engineers are dumber with a 130 IQ. You claim that: 
If it was merit based, jews would need the same average IQ to make it just as far
which is fine, if you believe that. But how do you reconcile the fact that many Jews are objectively successful in areas where handouts wouldn’t help them? And do you have any evidence that they are getting these handouts?

Even if all of what you said was true, it still would not explain why people hate Jews.

Likely because the jews imported Muslims there so the synagogue bombing was likely their own fault
More BS here. Again you lack evidence, but you also lack common sense. The Jews and the Muslims have been feuding for centuries; they certainly did not import Muslims. Even if they did though, there’s still no evidence that Jews bombed Mosques just because. 

You push for open borders and it is creating more Muslims in countries that used to be safe for Jews. Pretty soon some Muslim will be voted leader of a nation with nukes. Then it's over. 
I agree with you here 100%. It is precisely that anti-Semitism that puzzles me. Open borders are dangerous, and they are a neo-left position. A lot of Jews are left-leaning, so there is a correlation there to some extent. I also agree that too many Muslims are being allowed into 1st-world countries, and they are turning them into Muslim 3rd-world countries. There are many negative effects of this open-border policy that Jews, to some extent, have advocated for. One of them is the anti-Semitism and another is if a Muslim gets elected and has the nuclear code; both are terrifying not just for Jews but for the whole world. 

You guys still overwhelmingly voted for kamala Harris. I feel bad for the Jews who aren't retarded, because they will end up paying for those who are pushing for the shit currently destroying the West who is the only force keeping them safe
I agree here as well. However, two things should be noted: (1) there is a trend toward Trump and the Right in the Jewish demographic, and (2) most Orthodox Jews are more conservative than they are liberal. 

Still don’t understand why people hate Jews though just because some of them are pretty pesky. 
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18 Then Shila said to FLRW, “Now show me your glory.”


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Still don’t understand why people hate Jews though just because some of them are pretty pesky. 
The Jews have 613 mitzvot (commandments). But there is no commandment in Judaism that teaches Jews to be likeable. With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.
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The biggest or "real" reason why the Germans hated the Jews began in World War 1. During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap. This enraged so many Germans, that the Nazi movement gained support, so many people supported seizing the wealth of the Jews, because they felt it was swindled from them. The "war machine" put Germans back to work, and as their military research and arsenal grew, so did Nazi rhetoric and Germans felt emboldened to "punish the Jews" and things snowballed from there.
This is just a copy of hearsay off of Reddit
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The biggest or "real" reason why the Germans hated the Jews began in World War 1. During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap. This enraged so many Germans, that the Nazi movement gained support, so many people supported seizing the wealth of the Jews, because they felt it was swindled from them. The "war machine" put Germans back to work, and as their military research and arsenal grew, so did Nazi rhetoric and Germans felt emboldened to "punish the Jews" and things snowballed from there.
 This does kind of make sense. 

I would be pissed off too if some Jews bought all our gold at the right time and then our businesses once they collapsed after we failed to genocide them. Then again, you can’t really blame the Jews for this either. It also fits in with the Nazis (who were Socialists) wanting to punish the rich, successful corporations. 

All that, combined with Hitler’s Arian obsession and Eugenic philosophy, and that’s how you get WW2. 

But why do people hat Jews even nowadays?
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The Jews have 613 mitzvot (commandments). But there is no commandment in Judaism that teaches Jews to be likeable. With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history. 
Interesting claim you make here. But sadly for you, I fact-checked it. I checked a list of the 613 mitzvot (commandments) (https://www.jewfaq.org/613_commandments), and I found numerous of the mitzvot commanding that Jews treat non-Jews with respect and dignity, contrary to what you’d have me believe. 

Here are but a few examples of the 613 mitzvot that pertain to Jews’ treatment of non-Jews:
  1. To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) (CCA61). See Love and Brotherhood
  2. Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) (CCN49). 
  3. Not to wrong the stranger in buying or selling (Ex. 22:20) (CCN50)
  4. Not to delay payment of a hired man's wages (Lev. 19:13) (CCN38)
  5. That a man should fulfill whatever he has uttered (Deut. 23:24) (CCA39). 
  6. Not to break a vow (Num. 30:3) (CCN184).
  7. Not to delay in fulfilling vows or bringing vowed or free-will offerings (Deut. 23:22) (CCN185).
  8. Not to leave something that might cause hurt (Deut. 22:8) (CCN190). See Love and Brotherhood
  9. Not to slay an innocent person (Ex. 20:13) (CCN32). See Life
  10. Not to rob by violence (Lev. 19:13) (CCN35). 
  11. Not to defraud (Lev. 19:13) (CCN37). 
  12. Not to covet what belongs to another (Ex. 20:14) (CCN40). 
  13. Not to indulge in evil thoughts and sights (Num. 15:39) (CCN156).
There are many more examples but you get the point. 


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"Jews often had no choice but to enter this market as they were often banned from pursuing other careers. Due to restrictions on Christians lending to other Christians and charging interest, Jews were funneled into these roles. If they were not moneylenders, they often held other positions in business, such as merchants, traders, and shopkeepers."

"In 1914, Jews were well-represented among the wealthy, including 23.7 percent of the 800 richest individuals in Prussia, and eight percent of the university students.[59] Jewish businesses, however, no longer had the economic prominence they had in previous decades.[60] The Jewish middle class suffered increasing economic deprivation, and by 1930 a quarter of the German Jewish community had to be supported through community welfare programs.[60] Germany's Jewish community was also highly urbanized, with 80 percent living in cities.[61]"


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which is fine, if you believe that. But how do you reconcile
the fact that many Jews are objectively successful in areas where handouts wouldn’t help them? And do you have any evidence that they are getting these handouts?
Yes, in a study where job applicants put their religion on resumes, being Jewish increased their likelihood of getting a job offer. https://www.cnbc.com/2014/06/18/job-hunting-hide-your-religion-with-one-exception.html

More BS here. Again you lack evidence, but you also lack common sense. The Jews and the Muslims have been feuding for centuries; they certainly did not import Muslims.
This is not true either. You can simply look at the top ten books on Amazon right now promoting immigration and see that 7 of the authors are Jewish. I asked chat GPT for a list of prominent jews pushing immigration and it mentioned the following as well.



1. **Emma Lazarus (1849–1887)**  
   A poet and activist, she authored *The New Colossus*, the poem engraved on the Statue of Liberty, which celebrates welcoming immigrants to the United States.

2. **Albert Einstein (1879–1955)**  
   Beyond his contributions to science, Einstein was a vocal advocate for refugees and supported organizations helping Jewish and other refugees fleeing persecution.

3. **George Soros**  
   A philanthropist and founder of the Open Society Foundations, Soros has supported immigrant rights and asylum seekers globally through significant funding and advocacy.

4. **Haim Saban**  
   An Israeli-American media mogul and philanthropist, Saban has supported pro-immigration policies, particularly in advocating for Dreamers and DACA recipients.

5. **Stephen Wise (1874–1949)**  
   A rabbi and Zionist leader, Wise was instrumental in advocating for the immigration of Jewish refugees during the Holocaust.

6. **Mark Zuckerberg**  
   The Facebook founder has supported initiatives for immigration reform in the U.S., including advocating for the rights of undocumented immigrants.

7. **Janet Yellen**  
   As the first female Chair of the Federal Reserve and current U.S. Treasury Secretary, Yellen has spoken about the economic benefits of immigration.

8. **Madeleine Albright (1937–2022)**  
   Born to Jewish parents who fled the Holocaust, Albright, as U.S. Secretary of State, was an advocate for refugee protection and immigration reform.

9. **Bernie Sanders**  
   A U.S. Senator and presidential candidate, Sanders has consistently supported pro-immigration policies, including paths to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

10. **Ruth Messinger**  
   Former president of American Jewish World Service (AJWS), Messinger has been an outspoken advocate for immigrants and refugees, promoting global justice and humanitarian aid.

These individuals and their efforts reflect a tradition within Jewish communities of advocating for immigration and refugee support.
Jews are a big par of the reason you see a lot of refugees and immigrants who come in so fast that there is no time for them to adapt to western society.


I agree here as well. However, two things should be noted: (1) there is a trend toward Trump and the Right in the Jewish demographic, and (2) most Orthodox Jews are more conservative than they are liberal. 

It's good that a few Jews exist who do not want to destroy western society. I support the orthodox community

Still don’t understand why people hate Jews though just because some of them are pretty pesky. 
Because it's very devious. You don't see it with any other race. Why do they seek so much power? It's very unethical and evil to seek power at all and yet they always want it. If they just integrated and stayed out of politics they would both live in a better society and be safer. Instead they want to control banks, the media, and try to become thought leaders in their respective fields. 
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There is so much stupidity and anti-Semitism in this thread alone. The answer to "why" is "because people are hateful, lazy and unsuccessful and need to externalize their disappointment with their own lives by scapegoating others. 
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The Jews have 613 mitzvot (commandments). But there is no commandment in Judaism that teaches Jews to be likeable. With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history. 
Interesting claim you make here. But sadly for you, I fact-checked it. I checked a list of the 613 mitzvot (commandments) (https://www.jewfaq.org/613_commandments), and I found numerous of the mitzvot commanding that Jews treat non-Jews with respect and dignity, contrary to what you’d have me believe. 

Here are but a few examples of the 613 mitzvot that pertain to Jews’ treatment of non-Jews:
  1. To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) (CCA61). See Love and Brotherhood
  2. Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) (CCN49). 
  3. Not to wrong the stranger in buying or selling (Ex. 22:20) (CCN50)
  4. Not to delay payment of a hired man's wages (Lev. 19:13) (CCN38)
  5. That a man should fulfill whatever he has uttered (Deut. 23:24) (CCA39). 
  6. Not to break a vow (Num. 30:3) (CCN184).
  7. Not to delay in fulfilling vows or bringing vowed or free-will offerings (Deut. 23:22) (CCN185).
  8. Not to leave something that might cause hurt (Deut. 22:8) (CCN190). See Love and Brotherhood
  9. Not to slay an innocent person (Ex. 20:13) (CCN32). See Life
  10. Not to rob by violence (Lev. 19:13) (CCN35). 
  11. Not to defraud (Lev. 19:13) (CCN37). 
  12. Not to covet what belongs to another (Ex. 20:14) (CCN40). 
  13. Not to indulge in evil thoughts and sights (Num. 15:39) (CCN156).
There are many more examples but you get the point. 
Where does it tell Jews to be likeable?
Eg. Love thy neighbour but be likeable yourself.
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There is so much stupidity and anti-Semitism in this thread alone. The answer to "why" is "because people are hateful, lazy and unsuccessful and need to externalize their disappointment with their own lives by scapegoating others.

The Jews have 613 mitzvot (commandments). But there is no commandment in Judaism that teaches Jews to be likeable. With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.
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There is so much stupidity and anti-Semitism in this thread alone.
I hate Chinese more than I hate Jews.
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you define "likable" as "saying things you want to hear."

For some reason you think that "likeable" is an important commandment and that it would change the course of history. Physician, heal thyself.
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There is so much stupidity and anti-Semitism in this thread alone.
I hate Chinese more than I hate Jews.
You are in the wrong thread. This thread is for those who dislike Jews.
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For some reason you think that "likeable" is an important commandment and that it would change the course of history. Physician, heal thyself.
That's why those who ascribe to  secularism have no honor. They value being likable over truth. 
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For some reason you think that "likeable" is an important commandment and that it would change the course of history. Physician, heal thyself.
That's why those who ascribe to  secularism have no honor. They value being likable over truth. 
The truth is if the Jews were taught to be more likeable they would not have suffered 3000 years of antisemitism.
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you define "likable" as "saying things you want to hear."

For some reason you think that "likeable" is an important commandment and that it would change the course of history. Physician, heal thyself.
Here are but a few examples of the 613 mitzvot that pertain to Jews’ treatment of non-Jews:
  1. To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) (CCA61). See Love and Brotherhood
  2. Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) (CCN49). 
  3. Not to wrong the stranger in buying or selling (Ex. 22:20) (CCN50)
  4. Not to delay payment of a hired man's wages (Lev. 19:13) (CCN38)
  5. That a man should fulfill whatever he has uttered (Deut. 23:24) (CCA39). 
  6. Not to break a vow (Num. 30:3) (CCN184).
  7. Not to delay in fulfilling vows or bringing vowed or free-will offerings (Deut. 23:22) (CCN185).
  8. Not to leave something that might cause hurt (Deut. 22:8) (CCN190). See Love and Brotherhood
  9. Not to slay an innocent person (Ex. 20:13) (CCN32). See Life
  10. Not to rob by violence (Lev. 19:13) (CCN35). 
  11. Not to defraud (Lev. 19:13) (CCN37). 
  12. Not to covet what belongs to another (Ex. 20:14) (CCN40). 
  13. Not to indulge in evil thoughts and sights (Num. 15:39) (CCN156).
There are many more examples but you get the point. 
Where does it tell Jews to be likeable?
Eg. Love thy neighbour but be likeable yourself.

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Only a few minutes long. Worth a listen.
Douglas Murray DESTROYS Islam with a simple question.
Does Murray have a point? 
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Nobody has a yes or no to the question.
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Only a few minutes long. Worth a listen.
Douglas Murray DESTROYS Islam with a simple question.
Does Murray have a point? 
Muslims have a similar problem like the Jews but slightly different. The Quran does not  teach Muslims to like themselves just like the Hebrew Bible does not teach Jews to be likeable. This explains why Islam is not working for Muslim countries.
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Nobody has a yes or no to the question.
You must have missed my response to your post.

Muslims have a similar problem like the Jews but slightly different. The Quran does not  teach Muslims to like themselves just like the Hebrew Bible does not teach Jews to be likeable. This explains why Islam is not working for Muslim countries.
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Only a few minutes long. Worth a listen.
Douglas Murray DESTROYS Islam with a simple question.
Does Murray have a point? 
I heard the criticism. I would say it's true. The advise of the bible to judge a tree by it's fruit is a very good way to analyze the truth of a religion. The way I would define truth anyway.