Genuine question. Not getting at anything, I have no point to make. I’d like to hear why people dislike Jews.
Why do you dislike Jews?
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@SocraticGregarian96
It depends on how you define Jews.
Is it a religion?
Is it a nationality?
Is it something else?
In my view, Jews are a religion. Israel is the nation. Not all Israelies are Jews. Not all Jews are Israelies.
As for liking or disliking them:
Some reasons people - not me - have put-up:-
They are more wealthy on average.
They are more disposed towards Communism on average.
They are more intelligent on average.
They are less generous on average - compared to the Scots, the Dutch, and the South Africans
Wherever they go they take their wealth and their politics.
Their religion used to be exclusive. Not so much anymore.
Some people blame the Jews for killing Jesus.
Some people blame the Jews for taking their homeland, the Palestinians.
Some people are just racist. And bigoted.
Me, I am not anti-semitic. I am not pro-Jew or pro-Israel. But nor do I want to see them decimated. Mind you, I do have a desire to see every person become a Christian, even the Jews.
Suddenly tradesecret is back. He's heard the siren call.
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@SocraticGregarian96
Why do you sexually assault women?
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@Tradesecret
You’re not an end-times supporter?
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@SocraticGregarian96
I dont dislike all Jews.
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@SocraticGregarian96
If you look at what is destroying western civilization there seems to be a jew at the top of it.
Degenerate music. Jews run the music industry.
Porn- jews in charge of most major porn companies
Communism- usually Jewish people at the forefront in academia pushing it.
Look at the top 10 academic books on immigration, transgenderism etc. And it's mostly Jewish writers. There may not be an organized plot d
To turn western nations into 3rd world countries but the effects of their actions are not distinguishable from an organized plot to destroy the west
I met some jews and some stereotypes of them are real, specially the one that says they are fkn stingy. I guess this is the main reason why they're so succesful, because they save all the money they earn to invest it all in their businesses, you can guarantee an exponential money growth with that. Although it doesn't seem like it, this is a good habit that I'm trying to take up.
As for your question, I don't dislike jews. I dislike the zionists, though. Because of them there are so much chaos in Palestine and in the world as well.
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@SocraticGregarian96
Genuine question. Not getting at anything, I have no point to make. I’d like to hear why people dislike Jews.
There is nothing in Judaism that teaches Jews to be likeable even after facing 3000 years of antisemitism.
The biggest or "real" reason why the Germans hated the Jews began in World War 1. During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap. This enraged so many Germans, that the Nazi movement gained support, so many people supported seizing the wealth of the Jews, because they felt it was swindled from them. The "war machine" put Germans back to work, and as their military research and arsenal grew, so did Nazi rhetoric and Germans felt emboldened to "punish the Jews" and things snowballed from there.
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@FLRW
The biggest or "real" reason why the Germans hated the Jews began in World War 1. During the war, German citizens bought war bonds. However, the Jews bought gold instead. After the war, the German economy collapsed and the only thing to trade that was worth value was gold. The Jews didn't support the war effort, and after the economy collapsed they purchased up all the businesses dirt cheap. This enraged so many Germans, that the Nazi movement gained support, so many people supported seizing the wealth of the Jews, because they felt it was swindled from them. The "war machine" put Germans back to work, and as their military research and arsenal grew, so did Nazi rhetoric and Germans felt emboldened to "punish the Jews" and things snowballed from there.
Goes back to the original premise Jews were never taught to be likeable.
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@IlDiavolo
So would you suggest that I, because I am a Jew, am stingy? If not, then it isn't a proper stereotype of Jews, just a biased judgment of some people who happen to be Jewish.
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@rosends
So would you suggest that I, because I am a Jew, am stingy? If not, then it isn't a proper stereotype of Jews, just a biased judgment of some people who happen to be Jewish.
I probably need to meet more jews to have a more rounded value judgement but if it's a stereotype there might be some truth in it.
And if you didn't notice I value this stereotype so don't take it the wrong way.
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@rosends
So would you suggest that I, because I am a Jew, am stingy? If not, then it isn't a proper stereotype of Jews, just a biased judgment of some people who happen to be Jewish.
Confiscating and Annexing Palestinian land is going beyond stingy. It is criminal. Now top that with the genocide of the Palestinian people. And you have a modern reason why Jews are disliked. 3000 years of antisemitism has not taught the Jews to be likeable. It is not a part of their religion Judaism to be likeable. As you sow so shall you reap.
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@IlDiavolo
A stereotype is a local truth applied to a larger group predictively. It is a lazy shorthand which is often wrong. Group trait assumptions are generally wrong.
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@Shila
Have you made ntioned to the Muslims in Israel's government? Or would you rather just take a top post about Judaism and show the intellectual laziness of conflating it with Israel?
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@rosends
A stereotype is a local truth applied to a larger group predictively. It is a lazy shorthand which is often wrong. Group trait assumptions are generally wrong.
Jews stereotyping should have ended with the Holocaust. But when the Jewish group trait not to be likeable continued. The antisemitism continued. Even Jesus was disliked as a Jew and crucified.
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@rosends
Have you made ntioned to the Muslims in Israel's government? Or would you rather just take a top post about Judaism and show the intellectual laziness of conflating it with Israel?
The Israeli Parliament has 120 seats. The current Parliament has 17 non—Jewish representatives, out of which 11 are Muslim, 4 are Druze and 2 are Christian’s Arabs. In the previous parliament there were 12 non-Jewish representatives , 9 of which were Muslims , 2 Druze and 1 Arab Christian.
At the end of 2023, the Moslem population of Israel was estimated at 1.782 million (18.1% of all residents) – an increase of 35,000 compared with the end of 2022. The annual growth rate of the Moslem population in 2023 was 2.0% (2.2% in 2022). The US government estimates the total Palestinian population at 3 million in the West Bank and 2 million in the Gaza Strip (midyear 2022).
Land owned by the Palestinians before the Jews made it their homeland after the Holocaust in Europe.
4. 1947 – Proposed UN Partition Plan
Following the end of WWII, the newly formed United Nations proposed a plan that would grant 55 percent of historic Palestine to a Jewish state and 45 percent to a non-contiguous Arab one. Jerusalem would remain under international control.
Palestinians rejected the proposal because it stripped away much of the land that was under their control. At the time, they owned 94 percent of historic Palestine and comprised 67 percent of the population. This plan was never implemented on the ground.
It's not so much that I hate Jews on an individual level, it's that Judaism is one the most despicable religions.
I don't. The millions of Jews who live in this world are strangers who've done nothing to me. Their religion seems compatible with secularism and liberal values, Israel's strange mixing of rabbinical and governmental authority aside.
From browsing r/Judaism on Reddit it appears that some of them hate us for ancestral grievances, refusing to acknowledge it was mere historical luck of the draw that put our group in a dominant position to oppress theirs and not the other way around, and that Jews were not endowed by nature with a nobler character than Christians or ethnic Europeans. But I'm guessing an overall minority of Jews feel this way. The internet always draws out the opinions of a vocal fringe.
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@Swagnarok
Their religion seems compatible with secularism and liberal values
Sure, if liberal values are "mutilating baby boy's penises".
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@rosends
So would you suggest that I, because I am a Jew, am stingy? If not, then it isn't a proper stereotype of Jews, just a biased judgment of some people who happen to be Jewish.
So stereotypes would be generally accurate. If you fell outside of that than it wouldn't make the stereotype untrue. It's like saying men are taller than women. It doesn't mean all men are taller than all women it just means if you choose a male and a female at random, the taller person is most likely to be male. I would say also with some stereotypes the majority wouldn't even need to be true necessarily. If I say "the jews run the banks" it wouldn't require the majority of banks to even be run by Jews, it would just require a sizable disproportionate number.
Anyway as far as Jews are concerned. American jews looking to push Marxism and promote laws making it easy for children to transition genders are pieces of shits. Also Israeli Jews who are trying to falsely persecute Netanyahu for crimes he obviously didn't commit are also pieces of shit, since he is literally the only thing stopping that country from being swallowed up by the rest of the middle east.
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@Dr.Franklin
I see. I might be a nice guy but everything you think I believe in is horrible.
I will say Jews in business are stingy but on average they donate more to charity than the general population, even low income Jews donate disproportionately. I would like to know what charities they donate to and maybe I would take it back. So if they are donating to causes that harm western society than perhaps it is inherit evil and not generosity at play. On the surface level they appear charitable.
I will say I have seen more try to get free shit than the general public in some places. When I was 16 and worked at Safeway. There was this free sample policy to allow a free sample of literally everything and some of the Jews would take that policy way too far. I finally stopped letting them sample. Other races would just sample a few items they never tried but the jews would do it to like 15 items and then also be the first to bitch about the prices, which have to be inflated so much because they over sampled. So if they sampled oreos for example. They get an oreo but than the rest of the package would need to be thrown in the trash. Once I stopped letting jews sample. Prices droped
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@Reece101
You’re not an end-times supporter?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that comment.
If it is asking whether I believe the world will end one day? The answer is yes.
If it is asking me whether this is going to happen soon? The answer is not likely. (Although I will qualify this by saying I haven't been told a date)
If it is asking me whether the current situation in Israel is predicted in Revelation? I would say no.
I take the view that Israel as a nation today is the result of the United Nations, The League of Nations, who felt sorry for them after WW2.
I don't believe that they are back there as a result of God bringing them back. Every time in biblical history, that Israel was removed from the land, the only way back was to repent of their sin against God. That was always the first step. The reason they lost the land of Israel, most recently, was because they had rejected the Messiah. God took it off them in AD 70 - destroyed the temple and the sad fact is that they have never repented of their sin.
They're back in the land, not because of God, but because of the UN. Hence, not in accord with the Bible's prophecies.
Are we in the last days? Personally, I think we have a long way to go. The West might end. The East might too. We might have numerous world wars including nukes, but none of these things determine the end of the world absolutely. And certainly not judgment day.
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@WyIted
So stereotypes would be generally accurate.
No, they would have been a local truth and that's all.
If you fell outside of that than it wouldn't make the stereotype untrue.
It would show that the stereotype is flawed and unreliable.
If I say "the jews run the banks" it wouldn't require the majority of banks to even be run by Jews, it would just require a sizable disproportionate number.
And it would posit a causal relationship between these people's position in banking and their religion which actually is only reinforcing an untrue assumption. By invoking religion specifically for Jews (have you heard conversations that start "hey, do you know how many banks are run by Christians?") this creates, rather that endorses a stereotype.
Anyway as far as Jews are concerned. American jews looking to push Marxism and promote laws making it easy for children to transition genders are pieces of shits.
OH, we are? Is that something we decided at some huge meeting? I must have been out sick for that meeting and I didn't get anything from the central authority. Tell me more about what I'm doing.
. Also Israeli Jews who are trying to falsely persecute Netanyahu for crimes he obviously didn't commit
I have no doubt that he did commit some of them. Are you saying, by the way, that you know the facts better than Israelis?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Suddenly tradesecret is back. He's heard the siren call.
I never left. I just have others things to do.
A lot of Jews are incredibly smart. Albert Einstein for example. When I was the chief engineer of a corporation, one of my consultants was Jewish and he wore a
yarmulke a lot. He had a PhD in engineering from MIT.
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@Tradesecret
They are literally back in Israel as kind of an escape hatch. They destroy a country and when everyone realizes it is them they run to Israel. Like literally just stay in Israel or don't destroy your host nation, it's that simple.
He'll Israel even openly takes pedophiles and protects them. Do the country is literally so they can go commit crimes and still have a safe haven