Atheists that believe no God exists due to no evidence known is a weak basis.

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@Mall
Atheism is a religion because you ultimately have faith there is no God .
Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion.While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion.

Is atheism the opposite of religion?
Is Atheism A Religion?
Despite the textbook definition, though, is atheism considered a religion? Theologically/philosophically speaking, atheism is not considered to be  a religion. In fact, it's the very opposite of religion.


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@Mall
All people upon sound mature mind are religious.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. There is a very clear difference between the way religious people live their lives in devotion to the perceived wishes of their deity and the way atheists don’t do the same. In normal English we call that difference religion, but you pretend there is no difference and then defend that notion by pretending the word religious doesn’t mean what it actually does. Why? It’s almost as if you recognize that religion is itself silly so rather than admit it you decide to instead water down the word to meaninglessness to avoid having to acknowledge it.
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You’re the judge for a murder case, and you have a bad feeling about the defendant. However, once you need to deliver a verdict, there’s only 2 pieces of evidence, and both seem to point towards his innocence. Not to mention that many character witnesses attested to his gentle and loving personality.
Would you still say he’s guilty?

It wouldn't' be up to the judge , would it? It would be up to the most powerful people in the court room: the Jury, to conclude innocence or guilt..
It would be right that the Judge in his summing up to point out the "two pieces of evidence that seem to point to the defendants innocence". For the Judge not to do this  could lead  to a miscarriage of justice. 


I don’t give that much of a shit about how court works.

And therein lies your flaw.  
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@Sidewalker
You didn't refute my statement. I won't refute yours.
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@Shila
I believe the person tried to make a point that you can make a random meaningless statement. But it's no rebuttal to what I said.
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Ducking, dodging and running..
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@Mall
Just correcting your false claims.
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@Shila
Yes separation of religion they don't agree with. Not the one they legislate.
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@Hero1000
Just one or the other. Don't run, select an answer .
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@Stephen
I can do better than claim. I actually demonstrate it .
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@Castin
Only one of these statements is false.

Atheists believe there is God.

Atheists believe there is no God.
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@Shila
"Is atheism the opposite of religion?"

Depends on the religion. It's not opposite of the laveyan satanism religion.

"Is Atheism A Religion?"

Yes it is.

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@Double_R
Atheists are religious. They have their own belief systems. Doesn't mean they're religious like Christians, Baptist, Muslims, etc .
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@Best.Korea
What caused you to not believe in a god?
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@Mall

There are plenty of people that misunderstand the Bible charging false contradictions giving that as grounds to prove false where it's nowhere close.

And you can give some examples of " charging false contradictions", can you ?
Yes . Every time somebody charges one.

So you are claiming then that anyone that highlights biblical contradictions you can explain why the charge is false and prove the charge to be false?

I can do better than claim. I actually demonstrate it .
A demonstration would be nice, Mall.  


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@Mall
"Is atheism the opposite of religion?"

Depends on the religion. It's not opposite of the laveyan satanism religion.

"Is Atheism A Religion?"

Yes it is.

Definition of religion.
the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.

Atheists don't believe in any version of any god, and therefore, do not have any religion.
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Sure. You can check out the recent debate I believe I had " the Christian God cannot be real". The person charged claims in where one the opposing side actually directly conceded too.
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What caused you to not believe in a god?
When I was 12 my 7 year old cousin died from cancer. When I prayed to God, a voice said 'God is in God prison for poor design'.
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@Mall
Atheists are religious. They have their own belief systems. Doesn't mean they're religious like Christians, Baptist, Muslims, etc .
Atheists have belief systems because they’re human beings, and all human beings have belief systems. That’s not religion.

You are again, watering down the word religion in an attempt to rob it entirely of all meaning. Why? Is it really that hard to accept it for what it is?
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@Mall
I see. But we were talking Biblical contradictions. Here >>  #80 Here>> #88 and Here>#105

Or did you not read what I wrote properly? 

Here>> So you are claiming then that anyone that highlights biblical contradictions you can explain why the charge is false and prove the charge to be false?#88
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Religion can be just a faith system alone.
Even with your definition, it can apply to atheism.

Also atheists do believe in gods .

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So you don't believe in God because God didn't submit to your will.
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@Mall
Just one or the other. Don't run, select an answer .

"Just one or the other" is *exactly* what a false dichotomy is.


It is the act of when you simply provide a dichotomy, and claim on weak or no reasoning, that the correct choice must be in the choices presented. For example "2+2=3 or 2+2=5". and there either isn't a "and here's why", or there is a "and here's why" but its not a strong argument.

Saying "the answer is neither 3 nor 5" is not running away from the question.




But tell you what, I'll play along, on the condition that you promise to also play along and put yourself through the same logical standards.

Set A:
Atheists believe there is no God.
Atheists believe there is God.

Set B:
Agnostics believe there is no God.
Agnostics believe there is God.

If I pick one of the two statements in Set A and proclaim it as the true statement, no "its neither" "its both" "its a third option" or anything else, just simply " 'Atheists believe there is no God.' is the true statement" or " 'Atheists believe there is God.' is the true statement".
If I do that, proclaim either of those statements true, then you also must pick one of the two statements in Set B and proclaim it as the true statement, no "its neither" "its both" "its a third option" or anything else, just simply " 'Agnostics believe there is no God.' is the true statement" or " 'Agnostics believe there is God.' is the true statement".

(and for all intents and purposes, "Agnostic" here in Set B: is your definition, classification and usage of Agnostic)

Only, only if you promise that after I pick one of the two statements in Set A and proclaim it as truth publicly here on this forum topic, you pick one of the two statements in Set B and proclaim it as truth publicly here in this forum topic. Only after you agree to these terms will I pick one of the two statements in Set A and proclaim it as truth.

I'll make the deal even sweeter, after you agree to these terms, I am only going to write one of the two statements I mentioned(" 'Atheists believe there is no God.' is the true statement" or " 'Atheists believe there is God.' is the true statement"). I am not going to add any anything to that statement, no elaboration, no addendum, no rhetoric, no nothing, no text at all. I am only going to write the one statement, I won't post anything else or making any follow up posts until you've posted your response. And don't worry, in your post where you start by proclaiming either of the statements in Set B: as true, you are allowed to follow that up with whatever elaboration, rhetoric, or anything your heart desires. You get to make your case first. And if you prefer that I make my case first that's fine too, but again, only after you've publicly proclaimed either statement in Set B: as true in this debate topic after I've made my own public proclamation of either statement in Set A: as true.

Oh, and lastly, if you agree to these terms and make the promise, and then after I make my proclamation of a statement in Set A being true you betray the promise and don't make your proclamation of a statement in Set B being true and say something else in response to me.(saying other stuff in response to other people is still fine, those are different conversations) I am simply going to just retract my proclamation. And don't worry, I won't retract it if you hold true to your end of the bargain. Only other condition where I'll retract my proclamation in Set A is if you retract your proclamation in Set B after making it.

And I'll also make the deal less stressful for you. After we both have made our proclamations, after we talk about stuff (or even without us needing to talk about stuff), you are still perfectly free to retract your proclamation in Set B without consequences in rhetoric. I will simply respond by also retracting my proclamation in Set A and I will not attack your stance as if it still has your proclaimed statement, nor will I attack the fact that you retracted after making a proclamation either. As long as you also don't attack my stance as if it still has my proclaimed statement, nor attack the fact I retracted after making a proclamation. I am basically saying this whole deal, even after you get into it, you can afterwards get out of it whenever you like, as long as I also can get out of it in response to you getting out of it.

So what'll it be? Are you going to agree to these terms and make the promise?
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@Mall
Religion can be just a faith system alone.
Even with your definition, it can apply to atheism.

Also atheists do believe in gods .

While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion.

Atheists do not believe in the existence of God. Hence they are called atheist.

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Religion when you come down to the fundamentals of it is faith and practicing in what is pertinent to that faith. 

Socially people think of religion as believing in whatever people believe in . Could be god, gods, but they believe, they have faith. People will ask what is your religion. What is your faith? They're interchangeable because the basis of it is faith. Having an acceptance of a subject without evidence known to the natural.

This is why atheists try to harp on evidence and science so much trying to distance themselves from just accepting a subject without . Otherwise they'll start to blend in. But it's no use. This is why they resist saying they believe there is no god. Sounds too much like having the faith, having the religion. So they like saying "lack of belief" , right. A lack of faith, a lack of religion. It's one side of the same coin. You can say half empty (what's lacking) or half full(what's accepting). They will resonate the same meaning as a whole. So atheists lack faith. Theists lack faith was well.

I'll say that for the record. Theists lack faith as well as atheists.
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Religion when you come down to the fundamentals of it is faith and practicing in what is pertinent to that faith. 

Socially people think of religion as believing in whatever people believe in . Could be god, gods, but they believe, they have faith. People will ask what is your religion. What is your faith? They're interchangeable because the basis of it is faith. Having an acceptance of a subject without evidence known to the natural.

This is why atheists try to harp on evidence and science so much trying to distance themselves from just accepting a subject without . Otherwise they'll start to blend in. But it's no use. This is why they resist saying they believe there is no god. Sounds too much like having the faith, having the religion. So they like saying "lack of belief" , right. A lack of faith, a lack of religion. It's one side of the same coin. You can say half empty (what's lacking) or half full(what's accepting). They will resonate the same meaning as a whole. So atheists lack faith. Theists lack faith was well.

I'll say that for the record. Theists lack faith as well as atheists.
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 Theists lack faith as well as atheists.

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Are you the one that said Jesus is not in the old testament?
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@Hero1000
Let's make it easier .

Does an atheist believe there is the spirit of God?

Yes or no.
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@Shila
Right atheists believe in no existence of God the spirit, exactly.