Claims are meant to inform reads. Reads are meant to inform lynches. With no lynches in play, I see no utility in claiming when it won't change the outcome of the day, but might change the outcome of the night (for the worse).
Cerulean says his role visits never heard of a gladiator visiting.
Besides, if you really didn't see anything, shouldn't there be a Ninja from your POV? If there was, there wouldn't be a reason for me to make that specific lie.
Wylted is just flailing. Making pushes all over the place to see what sticks. I also dislike how he seems to be trying to use his last breath to force out my claim.
Bro you are scum or a retard. I have too much respect for you to think you are a retard.It's a compliment.I am clearly not making pushes to see what sticks I am scum hunting because if I figure something out I can be useful in some way. I am clearly making zero attempt to save myself and have stated multiple times I would rather go now than be a mislynch in LYLO or MYLO
There are two options1. Your claim helps town2. Your claim does literally zero damage to youThere is no scenario why your claim would harm town so state right now why you would hold off?Please everyone consider whether a town member when presented with an option of an action that either benefits town or is null but in no conceivable capacity will harm town, whether an actual town member would opt out of that action?
That's WIFOM, I've pretended not to care about my own survival as scum before. In fact, it's the only way you're making it through today considering I doubt you could ever get Cerulean out.
There is absolutely a detriment to town by claiming, and I see no possible benefit from claiming early when it has absolutely zero impact on what happens today.
I can see a world in which Cerulean is somehow a scum Gladiator, but that would be new to me and I haven't seen a good reason to cast him in that light yet.
Him being a visiting role is still suspect.
If you look over the last DP, does it look like I am really convinced of my position on Moozer or does it look like I am pretending?
Still, I can't say I understand a push on Cerulean here. Banana, Cerulean's role literally makes the DP a heads-up between two players, so it's a given that he'd have to pick a target and use his role on them, partially to confirm his role and partially because, frankly, WyIted was in a lot of peoples' potential scum pool at the end of the last DP. I'll note that he was also pretty thorough in giving his reasoning for every player still left in the game. I get that he pushed on you last game, though I just don't see his push in the same light this time. I can see a world in which Cerulean is somehow a scum Gladiator, but that would be new to me and I haven't seen a good reason to cast him in that light yet.
I'm not saying it's impossible that he's scum. I'm not sure why he'd lie about this, though.
It's more about how confident Cerulean is about Wylt being mafia, doing the whole big case against him and just deciding that wylted is scum and being so confident of it to use his role on him. And why would wylted not just lie about his watcher results if he was mafia? His reaction to all this seemed genuine, but I don't know him that well either. I just don't see why he would claim to watch the person who was night killed and say he doesn't have a result instead of faking it to get a a lynch if he was mafia, he came into this day phase level headed and willing to consider all options and didn't have an agenda. It's not so much that I am "pushing" cerulean but more that it's the only option he left us with, and between him and wylted, wylted seems to be more town here. Is cerulean ability a role that is commonly town sided?
Because he had a feeling I was watcher and wanted to explain being seen somewhere just in case. If that had come to pass it could be that he just refrained from using the gladiator role.
Is anyone concerned about bullish just randomly showing up to ensure town is lynched and randomly disappearing. Who was he going after last dp prior to lynching his town readThe other person he is pursuing was probably town I have to look back at it
Honestly I am thinking we should VTNL.
