Anyway, VTL Wylted. Last partner is likely Earth but I'll reserve judgement til I see the flip.
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Wylted (2/4): Bullish, Austin
VTNL (1/4): Wylted
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@AustinL0926
Last partner is likely Earth but I'll reserve judgement til I see the flip.
How dare you
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@AustinL0926
Wylted was a good choice. Scummy as hell after that last DP.
It's so scummy to pursue somebody who claimed the exact same role as his last scum game and made the same exact convenient mistakes of forgetting to use his role.
Dude address how the logic of that is wrong. Address how you knew he was town despite there being only a statistical 1 in a million chance he was town despite using his scum meta.
That's awfully convenient and I doubt this. It also doesn't make sense from a balancing perspective for scum to have a ninja while you're watcher
It could be an x shot, but who cares. It's absolutely retarded to think a scum role that balances out a town role is not balanced. The original game was all vanilla and scum should win a bit more often than town. It's a game that is literally supposed to be scum sided by design.
Wylted's push on whiteflame and Bullish just looks like flailing scum. Doesn't make any sense lol and doesn't follow from his reads
Why exactly wouldn't my reads be in a state of flux after finding myself to be so abysmally wrong?
I am not like you guys who cope instead of rethinking everything after I miss.
+1. I would've voted to lynch Moozer too if it was coming down to the end of the day.
You also said you town read him. That is terrible strategy and scummy. I have no problem lynching null reads to tighten my POE, but it's retarded to lynch a town read.
I have speculated on a few different people but the shift of Bullish at the end of the last DP was very suspicious, and his role doesn't make him town or even mostly town. That is the definition of retarded.
Austin has also been proceeding like he knew for a fact moozer was town last DP and yet he still was willing to vote him.
Also banana has been getting a free pass and flying under the radar.
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@AustinL0926
Anyway, VTL Wylted. Last partner is likely Earth but I'll reserve judgement til I see the flip.
How the fuck would my flip indicate Earth's innocence or guilt?
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@Earth
Austin is probably the one carrying out the Nk no matter who the partner is and if they are trying to throw you under the bus than it is unlikely that you will be the NK target
I am also quite obviously not flailing. I actually support my lynch if me existing at lylo will increase the odds of a mislynch.
I actually think the scum team is being a bit stupid by pursuing me and not realizing that they could increase the chances of a mislynch by pushing against my lynch. If they do get their heads out of their asses, and I doubt they will it may require me to hammer myself to maximize town's chances of success.
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@AustinL0926
I largely agree with what you’ve said (PoE is basically down to WyIted and Earth for me at this point, too), but I don’t like that you’ve ignored multiple calls to claim. It’s DP4, and even though you can’t be pressured by votes, you really shouldn’t be withholding at this stage.
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@whiteflame
You are not going to pressure anyone. I will be mislynched at LYLO if I am not mislynched now so it is better to get it out of the way. Just vote me so we can end the dp since nobody wants VTNL
I don't like how my decision to pursue moozer is being criticized either when I laid out my reasoning for doing so and not a single individual has criticized my reasoning.
How are we expected to criticize and improve each other's reasoning abilities when we are ignoring the reasoning presented and just making the bare assertion the other person is wrong.
VTL Wylted
That is not a vote out of frustration but just the objectively correct decision
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@WyIted
You are not going to pressure anyone. I will be mislynched at LYLO if I am not mislynched now so it is better to get it out of the way. Just vote me so we can end the dp since nobody wants VTNL
I would like Austin's claim, so no, I'm not going to just VTL you right now.
I don't like how my decision to pursue moozer is being criticized either when I laid out my reasoning for doing so and not a single individual has criticized my reasoning.How are we expected to criticize and improve each other's reasoning abilities when we are ignoring the reasoning presented and just making the bare assertion the other person is wrong.
I'm not criticizing your decision to pursue Moozer. We largely agreed on the reasoning for why Moozer was the lynch last DP. I've got other reasons to sus you at this point, though I'll admit most of it comes down to PoE.
By my count, we're up to 3 votes on WyIted. Please, no one else add yours until Austin has claimed.
Votes:
Wylted (3/4): Bullish, Austin, WyIted
I could have been redirected also geniuses
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@WyIted
I could have been redirected also geniuses
I don't buy that scum have multiple redirect roles in a game with 2-3 Vanillas, particularly that they'd have a manipulative JOAT who has a Redirector, a Deflector and a Bus Driver and then also have another scum with a similarly manipulative role. Your suggestion of Ninja is more likely.
I will try to show up for the endgame but gave myself 30 days to do something that takes most people 3 to 6 months and even then has a 70% fail rate.
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@whiteflame
Why do you want austin's claim so much? Is it going to help you decide between lynching wylted and cerulean?
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@Bullish
Why do you want austin's claim so much? Is it going to help you decide between lynching wylted and cerulean?
I think there’s value in receiving the information now because he remains the sole person who is unclaimed and I would prefer to having it sooner rather than later, though I’m noting Austin’s lack of response about his claim as troubling as well.
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@whiteflame
He responded to cerulean. And I agree with him. I'd rather have his role later rather than sooner, cause there's no reason to have it now.
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@Bullish
I’m not so convinced, but if that’s a common sentiment (I’ve only seen your response so far), then I can just end this. Considering there have already been two NPs and four DPs to act, I’m not sure what exactly we stand to lose, especially as there’s a more than decent chance that he ends up being the NK, which might deny us information as well.
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@Bullish
He responded to cerulean. And I agree with him. I'd rather have his role later rather than sooner, cause there's no reason to have it now.
Cause your scum. He won't get the claim but there is literally zero harm in getting it. You should be trying to distance yourself from Austin BTW not connect yourself to him
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@whiteflame
What did earth claim? I don't think Austin is the sole claim missing
There's no reason for Austin to withhold his claim.
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@whiteflame
Let me reread the last dp because somebody told me they had a visiting role and ai thought it was him.
unvote
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@whiteflame
Cerulean says his role visits never heard of a gladiator visiting.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11882-classic-movies-mafia-dp3?page=1&post_number=21
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@Cerulean
Cam you explain the mechanics of your role please?
That makes no sense as a visiting role. Perhaps he knew I was a watcher somehow and thought he may have been seen carrying out the NK so mentioned a visiting role preemptively.
Anyway I know I am town and I don't know cerulean affiliation. I guess we don't have to make a mistake this dp
VTL cereleun
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@WyIted
If any Americans ever want to know where their tax dollars are going, there were four people in my office today who spent what seemed to be the whole day setting up Halloween decorations.
Anyway, I did check with Casey when you originally asked, and the role does visit. I did lie about it when I said it couldn't be interfered with, so Mafia wouldn't try to mess with it, but it being a visiting role was- and still is- the truth.
Besides, if you really didn't see anything, shouldn't there be a Ninja from your POV? If there was, there wouldn't be a reason for me to make that specific lie.