Years mafia Day Phase 2

I find it scummy but I don’t think it’s confirming he’s scum. Last game I think it was? He didn’t pay attention to his pm and didn’t notice he was turned into a vanilla. 

as for the vig kill, I’d prefer not to say when im gonna use it, but it’s soon.

you had been online, but not said anything, which I found to be very sus

He was one of the main proponents of lynching Wylted, who ended up flipping town. That's an easy mislynch for mafia and he was the spearhead of that lynch.

I genuinely don't know why I am being sussed so hard for wanting Wylted to be lynched. It's usually beneficial for the town to lynch someone DP1, and it seemed like there was a really decent chance that he was scum, and he was clearly deadweight anyway.

Also, I only jumped on your wagon to put you at L-2 to help pressure you into claiming as soon as you logged on. I wasn't going to lynch you before you claimed.

there is quite literally no difference in the beginning or end of construction that would deviate town from scum in a theme analysis

I still haven't seen any major behavioral read to indicate me as scummy.

there is quite literally no difference in the beginning or end of construction that would deviate town from scum in a theme analysis

Not the point. The mistake in timing is the point, which you’ve already acknowledged is a valid reason to sus you. It was pretty flagrant, and your defense of it is kind of absurd. You seem stuck on a few side issues I mentioned that I’ve admitted were weak reasons to sus you. 

I still haven't seen any major behavioral read to indicate me as scummy.

Already mentioned the decision to sus Moozer as concerning. Just because you’re backtracking on that now doesn't change that. I do think both the people you’re sussing make sense based on where things are at and your claim at least.

Like I said, you're overanalyzing a very simple mistake that does not mean anything. Beginning or end, why does it inherently matter? You haven't given a good reason as to why it matters. Answer, it doesn't.

It's a theory obviously, but if Owen claims or flips an affil confirming investigative, you wouldn't sus out Moozer. I back tracked because he was the only one claimed, not because I wanted to confirm. Moozer goes more into my scum pile at that point. Pretty basic-ish mafia logic

People are suspicious of pushing inactives because if you are scum, it's essentially a free mislynch because you can always just make the argument of "well he's inactive."

Your suspicion of me is technically a wagon. The vote doesn't draw me off. Whiteflame is the the driver of my suspicion and you seem to hop on that wagon using weak role analysis to back it up.

Like I said, you're overanalyzing a very simple mistake that does not mean anything. Beginning or end, why does it inherently matter? You haven't given a good reason as to why it matters. Answer, it doesn't.

See, it’s pushback like this that makes me more solid in my sussing of you. You know you fucked up. You have said so - that your claimed year is several years off from the specific event. Timing matters because no one else has done that. Moozer could potentially have claimed the start of building the Colosseum, and if he had listed its competition date along with it, I’d be sussing both of you right now. It matters because it’s wrong, plain and simple, and I don’t think someone who had their claim in writing for multiple days and knows about this particular structure, as you clearly do, makes that mistake.

It's a theory obviously, but if Owen claims or flips an affil confirming investigative, you wouldn't sus out Moozer. I back tracked because he was the only one claimed, not because I wanted to confirm. Moozer goes more into my scum pile at that point. Pretty basic-ish mafia logic

So now it depends on Owen’s claim… but not since Moozer’s in your scum pile as the only affiliation indicative informational claim on the table. You keep flipping on this, since you said he was a town lean 20 minutes ago. Nothing’s changed.

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People are suspicious of pushing inactives because if you are scum, it's essentially a free mislynch because you can always just make the argument of "well he's inactive."

Point taken, but you're overlooking the fact that I only really started pushing Wylted late in the DP when it became clear that it was either him or no one. I wasn't eager to lynch him specifically as much as I was trying to just get a lynch in general. My first choice had actually been Luna, for reasons I already explained, but I backed off when he got on and claimed.

Your suspicion of me is technically a wagon. The vote doesn't draw me off. Whiteflame is the the driver of my suspicion and you seem to hop on that wagon using weak role analysis to back it up.

It's not just Whiteflame. Pie also sussed you, more than any other living player, and asked us to follow up on his leads. I'm respecting his wishes. Also, I agree with you that it's somewhat unlikely that both your role and JoeBob's would both exist in this game, and I think JoeBob is more likely to be town. That makes you my most suspicious player atm.

Yeah... I'm not arguing this with you anymore at this point. You know where you messed up and you admitted to it, but now you're suddenly claiming that you didn't make a mistake. This seems to just be your thing this DP, so whatever. Whenever Owen comes on and posts his claim, I'll address my other reasons for sussing you.

For a lynch or to pressure for a claim?

He only sus'd based on a claim. Why are you hard buddying Pie? He could be equally as wrong as he could be wrong

I only voted for Wylted at all when it became clear that he was the only realistic lynch option.