Heroic Heroes Mafia DP2

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@WyIted
Can you wait til the game ends to start slap fights with mods?
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Was out camping. Reading now.
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@Earth
I am just respectfully declining but i don't know what actions they will feel are necessary.  I have asked barney to replace me if things go south, so hopefully it minimally affects the Gane if things turn out that way
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confscum in Joebob/Wylted?
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Joebob's role claim is kinda convincing though.
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Actually could Casey have interfered by accident with one of their roles last night? Can't discount that
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@WyIted
I sincerely don’t know what you’re talking about.
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@whiteflame
I sincerely don’t know what you’re talking about.
I guess that is between you and Barney than.
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@WyIted
I guess that is between you and Barney than.
I guess if I don’t know about it, you’re not going to be imminently banned for it.

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I can be active now. Still need to catch up though
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@whiteflame
I am okay with all my messages being screenshot and shared if it comes up or you are curious
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As white flame requested, I'll claim now. As I mentioned in DP 1, it's a weird one. 

I am the ear of Donald Trump
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Possible. Casey gives Wylted a shield. Wylted targets me. Joebob targets Wylted and his action is redirected to himself. I get visited still.

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For what's it's worth, I townread Wylted. I guess JoeBob had a townie reaction to the supposed Wylted/Joe thing.
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I find it a little suspicious that earth has avoid claiming
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Wylted (2/5) - Lunatic, JoeBob
JoeBob (1/5) - Wylted
Owen (1/5) - Whiteflame


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I'll be honest, I think any experienced scum knows what my role is lol.
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@Earth
My guess and I can't remember the role is just that you are told you were visited and by how many people. 
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We'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
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@Owen_T
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Alright, that explains the weird softclaim, though it doesn't move the needle since the character claim basically tells me nothing. Going to need that role claim.

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@Earth
Possible. Casey gives Wylted a shield. Wylted targets me. Joebob targets Wylted and his action is redirected to himself. I get visited still.
So, while I think this scenario makes some sense, I do have to point out some of the aspects that make me question it.

First is the obvious: this requires two different people to have targeted WyIted. JoeBob claims to have targeted him, and I guess it's a toss-up whether Casey townread WyIted enough to give him the shield. It's not an impossible scenario by any means, but I doubt it's the most likely one on the table.

Second, it's just a weird interaction happening here. Pie would have to allow for the possibility that Casey uses the shield on someone, redirecting all their roles back to themselves, including a role whose purpose is to redirect roles... to themselves? You could argue that Casey's shield redirects the action of someone external to the target while JoeBob's role targets someone with the aim of having their role used on himself, so there is a distinction, but I just have the hardest time believing that Pie would needlessly complicate a game with two redirection roles and refer to one of them as "Compulsive Intercepter" while just having the other be a straightforward Reflector. Maybe this is too modpsych, but something's off here.



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As a rule of thumb, how many people should ask for a claim before I give it? 
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Should I just give it now?
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As a rule of thumb, how many people should ask for a claim before I give it? 
Usually it’s L-2
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So, I should hold off?
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So, I should hold off?
That’s up to you
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But usually you shouldn’t claim when only one person has a vote on you
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Okay I'll claim if people want me to but I'll wait for now.