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@Savant
I was half asleep when I read WF's logic but I thought he was leaning wylted I gotta re read that
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It’s been a rough night. A flight that should have been an hour and a half ended up being almost 6 hours long. Flight made circles before getting rerouted because of the hurricane, then finally got into DC way too late to catch our connection. Now we’re 24 hours delayed from getting home.
All that is to say I’ve read the posts, but I can’t retain anything aside from it still being JoeBob vs. WyIted. I’ll catch up again tomorrow morning and see if my thoughts have changed.
I still have thoughts that Wylted versus Joebob is town versus town, but I lean towards Wylted being town. I think Joebob definitely didn't fake claims compulsive Redirector so if he's mafia, that's probably his role.
I feel like wylted isn't really trying to defend himself or try hard to get joebob lynched. TBF neither is joebob but I expect it more from joebob than wylted if wylted was town he'd seem to care a bit more. His lack of defense seems to me he made a ballsy claim, knows he f'ed up, and now is regretting the decision and kind of accepting his fate and hoping to at the very least get one mislynch out of it.
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@Owen_T
Have you full claimed yet? This would probably be a good time.
HE claimed tracker I can't remember if he character claimed or not though.
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@JoeBob
I revealed who I targeted after I full claimed, the same full claim that almost everyone unvoted for. If I was scum, why the fuck would I put myself in the spotlight again?
Why would I put myself on the spotlight for admitting I was the one who visited earth. Also if your results are accurate how did anyone even visit earth?
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@Lunatic
I claimed Evola and tracker
I feel like wylted isn't really trying to defend himself or try hard to get joebob lynched
I know I have said this before but I am done with the site after this. I feel like a new person and like I have to play this wylted character when I am here. If I can find a way to stay in touch with my oldest son while eliminating social media I will likely do that as well.
Every bit of attention ai pay this site is a minute that I could be spending with my youngest son or a minute I could be studying or working or working out.
It's also not challenging. When I make an argumentnI expect to be disproven.
For example I have used the economic freedom index as kind of a gauge on whether I am dealing with a liberal who is retarded or not.
I keep using it as an example of why conservatism is better than liberalism and they try to dismiss the study because it was from the heritage foundation or because they disagreed with the conclusion. All were too stupid to look at how economic freedom was determined and attack that. For example incorruptible courts is one measure, but I never see a rebuttal like this, just biases and retarded arguments.
If they don't know that rebuttal, fine whatever than they should change their conclusion, but they are retards and double down on their position instead of actually disproving mine or changing their mind.
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@WyIted
You see Julius Evola as a hero?
' An eccentric thinker in Fascist Italy,[2] he also had ties to Nazi Germany;[3] in the post-war era, he was an ideological mentor of the Italian neo-fascist and militant Right.[4]"
"Evola advocated for Fascist Italy's racial laws,[10] and eventually became Italy's leading "racial philosopher"."
"The Italian racial laws, otherwise referred to as the Racial Laws (Italian: Leggi Razziali), were a series of laws promulgated by the government of Benito Mussolini in Fascist Italy from 1938 to 1944 in order to enforce racial discrimination and segregation in the Kingdom of Italy. The main victims of the Racial Laws were Italian Jews and the African inhabitants of the Italian Empire."
In your own words, why is he a hero, why would pie make him town, and why is he justified as a "tracker"?
Dead players:
Casey- Perseus- Reflector- Town - Killed NP1
Living:
Wylted- Julius Evola- Tracker (tracked earth np1)
Whiteflame- Fictional
Earth- Fictional male (knows he was visited)
Lunatic- Fictional Female
Owen- Ear of Donald Trump
JoeBob- Iron man- Compulsive Interceptor (redirects actions to himself, targeted wylted np1)
Savant- Fictional (can confirm himself fi whiteflame dies?)
Austin- Real (theoretically confirmable)
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@Lunatic
I already gave my character: Arataka Reigen
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@whiteflame
Okay thanks. I know your already on Wylted but what do you think of the Evola claim, do you think there’s any world pie makes that guy town? If so why? I just kind of glanced at the wiki I don’t know a ton about him
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@Lunatic
In your own words, why is he a hero, why would pie make him town, and why is he justified as a "tracker"?
He didn't agree with how Mussolini practiced fascism. He is right-wing but I think he would advocate for a sort of monarchist society. A lot of fascists did draw inspiration from him.
As far as jow pie wrote it and you asked for my own words so I won't paraphrase, but essentially Mussolini tracks the tides of the time and as a result can know what's going on.
Also there is no theme split
My biggest take away from him can kind of be seen in my second video response to ADOL about bestiality. Essentially the transcendent properties I talk about. Philosicat on YouTube also bases her entire YouTube channel around evola so she can give you some quick videos that really take his complex ideals and puts them in a nice small container that is easy to digest
It's like how Hitler drew a lot of inspiration fromNietzsche a ND malthus but neither Neitsche or Malthus would like the guy most likely
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@Lunatic
Okay thanks. I know your already on Wylted but what do you think of the Evola claim, do you think there’s any world pie makes that guy town? If so why? I just kind of glanced at the wiki I don’t know a ton about him
I don’t know a whole lot about him either, but the choice is on brand for WyIted, who I think would choose an… unconventional hero. I also genuinely don’t think WyIted would fake a character claim in this game because I don’t think anyone has incentive to do so.
So we have about 12 hours left at this stage. I’d still like a full claim from Owen, especially after he started pushing for a full claim from Earth, who is widely townread at this point and has given a pretty solid softclaim that has been backed up already. I get that it’s backed up by WyIted, who I’m scumreading atm, but I don’t see any value in obtaining his full claim right now and the effort to divert attention from himself to Earth, Savant and now focusing on JoeBob reads as behaviorally scummy coming from him.
Just the same, I’m going to Unvote for now as I think we have to coalesce around a lynch and this is not helping that effort. I still think it’s more likely that WyIted is scum than JoeBob for reasons I’ve already expressed, so that’s where my vote is going:
VTL WyIted
If he flips town, we can verify his result and that will help inform the next lynch and any further information we get is likely to be manipulated. If he flips scum, that moves the needle.
Vote Count:
Wylted (4/5) - Lunatic, JoeBob, Savant, Whiteflame
JoeBob (3/5) - Wylted, Austin, Owen
Approximately 24 hours remaining
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@WyIted
Also there is no theme split
I know there is no theme split, but it was also a choose your own hero theme. At least for my character there is a strong reason why my character is good and justification for why I have a town role, so “tracking the tides of time” doesn’t sound particularly heroic to me. I’m sure pie gave you the character since you asked for it, but I think it’s more likely he would have on researching it assigned a mafia role or a negative utility role than an investigative one. The justification seems like a bit of a stretch. Mine slightly is too but it makes way more sense than that.
Idk I probably wouldn’t push your lynch off of this alone if your results also didn’t contradict Jordon’s claimed results, but tbh I don’t see a whole lot of ways to town read you for anything other than tracker is a semi common investigative role. I don’t think that’s enough.
And maybe I’m overthinking on joebob, I do think he is a noob but I think as scum he’d be a bit more careful in claiming and at least be read and caught up or ask a scum partner for help prior to claiming results that contradicted yours. I guess it could have been a noob mistake but he didn’t do that as scum when he was with Austin. He was caught because Austin had claimed his character already so he was forced to take Austin’s and hope for the best but I don’t think that was an independent decision either.
Before someone hammers, I am going to be thinking of savant tonight if wylted is innocent. I’ll be thinking of Austin tonight if Wylted is guilty.going to bed soon so I probably won’t be on if anything major develops
I'm thinking of hammering Wylted, but I'm just going through the last of my thoughts.
Vote Count:
Wylted (4/5) - Lunatic, JoeBob, Savant, Whiteflame
JoeBob (3/5) - Wylted, Austin, Owen
Approximately 11 hours remaining
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@Lunatic
Idk I probably wouldn’t push your lynch off of this alone if your results also didn’t contradict Jordon’s claimed results, but tbh I don’t see a whole lot of ways to town read you for anything other than tracker is a semi common investigative role. I don’t think that’s enough
I am going to stick around until the end game. This is the bullshit part of the whole thing. I actually visited earth. I am being lynched because of Joebob's role contradicts my claim of visiting earth. Think about this. As scum I would never lie about visiting earth here, so regardless of my flip. I visited earth I am slightly pissed about this whole thing.
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@Earth
unvote VTL wylted
Honestly guys I really visited earth and I know why things turned out the way they did but I visited earth and there are like 20 reasons that our results could contradict.
Whatever, I hope you guys lose
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@ILikePie5
I hammered, they don't need any more information.
STOP POSTING
Vote Count:
Wylted (5/5) - Lunatic, JoeBob, Savant, Whiteflame, Wylted
JoeBob (2/5) - Austin, Owen
Wylted was lynched. He was…GUILTY. Please submit night actions ASAP.
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@whiteflame
Lock please