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@FLRW
All the Democrats had to do was pick the correct lie. It's a known fact that all politicians lie.
Yet another example of dictator wannabe Trump
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And the other side that lies and says "we will fix the border"
Ya, they will fix the border. That’s why Trump told republicans to reject the border plan put forward in the Senate.
All the Democrats had to do was pick the correct lie. It's a known fact that all political parties spin lies and talking points.
Choosing the "The border is secure" lie was a grand miscalculation. They should have chosen the "We will fix the border" lie.
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@3RU7AL
No, it isn't. Not when it's done in furtherence of another crime.that's the "federal crime"
No, the furtherence of a crime is NY election law. The "illegal means" contained within NY election law could have been one of three options given to the jury, the most prominent and obvious is federal law which had already been adjudicated.
So no, he was not charged with a federal crime and to claim that using a federal charge as the underlying crime is the same thing shows that you fundamentally misunderstand the concept of the law applied here.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The non-convicted, non-charged, not even against the law because the law doesn't say NDAs are illegal for candidates "federal crime"
Micheal Cohen was indicted for the payment, plead guilty to it, and served 3 years for it. So legally speaking, it is a fact that he is guilty. That by definition means the issue was adjudicated and it was a crime regardless of what your opinion on the matter is.
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You claimed Israel is only talking about a cease fire now because they think Trump will be president. That flies completely in the face of any reasonable real world understanding of the situation.
Yeah, you are right. It is just a one in a billion coincidence that this was never ever on the table until Netanyahu met Trump and Trump was favored to win.
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@WyIted
Yeah, you are right. It is just a one in a billion coincidence that this was never ever on the table until Netanyahu met Trump and Trump was favored to win.
Right, because Netenyahu finally coming to the table to negotiate with the Biden administration 3 months out from the election is exactly what Trump would have wanted him to do.
Trump must really have the guy wrapped around his finger.
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@Double_R
Legally speaking, there needs to be a law for there to be a crime.Micheal Cohen was indicted for the payment, plead guilty to it, and served 3 years for it. So legally speaking
I do not care for non-crimes be they part of stage play or not.
Trump is a dick for taking my tators.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Micheal Cohen was indicted for the payment, plead guilty to it, and served 3 years for it. So legally speakingLegally speaking, there needs to be a law for there to be a crime.
There was. That's what the indictment laid out, that's what the judge signed off on, that's what Cohen plead guilty to and served 3 years for.
So again, it's not a matter of opinion whether Cohen's actions are a crime within the legal system, it's a fact.
Your ability to close your eyes plug your ears and scream "la la la" as you ignore every legal argument and just declare yourself the arbiter of what counts as the rule of law is not impressive, it's arrogant and shows yourself to be fundamentally unserious.
*Queue the "oh yeah well you're unserious" response.*
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@Double_R
So, I attempt (futilely, it seems) to clarify Trump’s claim thusly:
“he is not joking about ending our democracy; he is joking about the GOP garnering such a large part of the electorate that many (such as the people at this particular rally) can stay home on Election Day in 2028, and a win will still be assured.”
And you reinterpret that as:
The prevailing narrative you and others are trying to offer is that he's joking about his christian base not having to vote anymore because their positions will be so popular it won't matter.
Okey, dokey there, Mr. “This is basic English.” For the record, I am not of the opinion that it is a particularly funny or clever joke— merely that it IS him being facetious and that confusing Trump’s facetiousness for “wannabe dictator” inclinations is a symptom of what is popularly known as TDS.
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@Double_R
*Queue the "oh yeah well you're unserious" response.*
You lost the debate, now you don't deserve serious engagement on the issue. If I pretended you didn't lose the debate then you would have no reason to cease pretending you lose debates and thus continue this very unhealthy trend of denial.
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@Double_R
Ibwant to go ahead and leave this here which shows why your statement in op was stupid
https://youtu.be/JEkrL5smSiM?si=nzODOT1NEHzLsOMI
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@WyIted
I find it interesting that the very people that fail basic civics on how government works also believes dictatorship of a single person could happen in a country with 3 separate and independent branches. Oligarchy, maybe. Dictatorship, impossible, even for a schizophrenic.
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@Double_R
Trump did say that he wants for people in USA to be like people in North Korea.
We would have to be extremely stupid to pretend that power hungry Trump who tried to overthrow election results doesnt have desire to have more power and be a dictator.
He has the desire for sure, its just the system which is preventing him.
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@Double_R
using a federal charge as the underlying crime
it sounds like we agree
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@Greyparrot
I find it interesting that the very people that fail basic civics on how government works also believes dictatorship of a single person could happen in a country with 3 separate and independent branches. Oligarchy, maybe. Dictatorship, impossible, even for a schizophrenic.
Oh pulease, there were not "3 separate and independent branches" under Trump, even out of office he tells Congress what to do, and he corrupted the Judicial branch, and if he gets re-elected, he will implement his 2025 plan to eliminate anything even resembling co-equal branches of government. He's already had his Supremes give him power over all branches and the electorate, he can dictate as much as he wants, and he wants it badly.
According to his Supremes, and per his legal argument, it would be completely legal for Trump to have opponents, judges and Congress members that disagree with him assassinated by the military. As long as he can send the military against the other 2 "separate and independent" branches, as his Supremes have allowed, there is one branch of government run by a dictator.
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@Sidewalker
Still not a dictatorship. Congress independently is making the decisions. They can decide to do whatever they want to. They share the responsibility and the blame for anything that happens and can get voted out. That's not a dictatorship. Plus Congress doesn't always agree with Trump. That's hyperbole.
You know how easy it is to fall into the hyperbole trap, right?
As long as he can send the military against the...
Military won't march one mile without a paycheck, and the Congress controls the money and appropriations as the most powerful branch of the government.
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@Best.Korea
He has the desire for sure, its just the system which is preventing him.
Yeah, he would have to nuke Washington DC first.
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@Greyparrot
Still not a dictatorship. Congress independently is making the decisions. They can decide to do whatever they want to. They share the responsibility and the blame for anything that happens and can get voted out. That's not a dictatorship. Plus Congress doesn't always agree with Trump. That's hyperbole.You know how easy it is to fall into the hyperbole trap, right?
I know what it is when somebody is blowing BS at me too. You are talking about a democratic government, Trump intends to do away with such nonsense. He has declared that he will be a dictator, he has but the 2025 dictator plan in place, a dictator doesn't give a shit what congress does.
As long as he can send the military against the...Military won't march one mile without a paycheck, and the Congress controls the money and appropriations as the most powerful branch of the government.
Maybe you don't know what dictator means.
Trump will be commander in chief, you really think the military doesn't follow orders?
Maybe you don't have a clue about the military either.
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@WyIted
Ibwant to go ahead and leave this here which shows why your statement in op was stupidhttps://youtu.be/JEkrL5smSiM?si=nzODOT1NEHzLsOMI
No idea who that guy is but for obvious reasons it's hard to take very seriously the claim that American Christians don't participate in politics much. The grasping at straws is so transparent that I don't get why you are even bothering to grasp at them in this case. Why not just say "good I am glad he said this democracy is bad" like you have elsewhere?
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@cristo71
confusing Trump’s facetiousness for “wannabe dictator” inclinations is a symptom of what is popularly known as TDS.
When President Xi of China successfully got their constitution amended so that he could effectively be president for life Trump's response was to joke by saying "maybe we should give that a try".
When he was asked whether he planned to abuse his power and be a dictator his response was to joke about how he was only going to be a dictator "on day one".
Now he tells a crowd that this will be the last time they'll ever have to vote and you guys say he's "just being facetious".
Oh, and here's a video Trump himself tweeted depicting himself running for president "4EVA"
Does it ever give you pause that the guy you support for president loves to joke about being a dictator? As in the very thing the country he is running to lead was founded against? As in the thing he has to swear not to be in order to take office?
The fact that you guys brush this off like it's nothing serious is dumbfounding. It's like a babysitter joking about touching your child. Let me guess, they were just being facetious too right?
But what's worse is the way you guys act like we're the crazy ones for ringing the alarm bells about this. As if this same man hasn't demonstrated repeatedly to us just how in love he is with dictators, and the fact that the very thing he loves about them is that they are dictators. As if we haven't already witnessed this very same man try to overturn an election. As if this same man hasn't already incited an attack against the US Capitol and watched it on TV for three hours instead of doing his job to coordinate a military response to it. As if this same man didn't already try to use the justice department to seize voting machines.
What's deranged is to ignore everything this man has shown us in as clear a way as he possibly could what he stands for and continue making excuses for him no matter how absurd those excuses are. Trump derangement syndrome is definitely real, it just doesn't mean what you think it does.
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@Double_R
Yet when Biden decides he doesn't want a second term that's apparently anti-democracy.
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@Sidewalker
You are talking about a democratic government..
Nope. Congress is part of a constitutional republic. Also an independent entity that would need to be eliminated for a dictatorship to exist. An impossibility as they control military spending..
you really think the military doesn't follow orders?
There's no military that works for free unless they are oppressed rebels. Military today is part of the swamp.
Zero chance the same people that want global war will listen to Trump about anything. Especially for no money.
Maybe you don't have a clue about the military either.
Don't equate me to your admitted misunderstandings, lol.
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@Double_R
Does it ever give you pause that the guy you support for president loves to joke about being a dictator?
You asked this before, and I answered by pointing out your misconception and attempting to clarify for you. Here we go again! Your above questions is based upon a misunderstanding of what Trump is joking about. In this case, (you know, your actual OP) it’s not even a joke about being a dictator. You are not parsing his meaning correctly; you refuse to be open to a different (and correct) interpretation, so the impasse wall is being reached here, hence the futility.
President Biden has exhibited more actual dictatorial actions and words from my perspective, but he never joked about being dictatorial. The irony.
Remember that Trump created 3 trillion budget deficit in 2020.
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@Best.Korea
cool, so Trump is responsible for 11.6% of the debt. Not too shabby.