Thoughts on the Trump assassination attempt

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7/13 was much worse and was actual violence, 
What do you mean, Trump didn’t even get shot, it was just glass fragments. So no crime.

Just like when the defense for Trump was he tried to steal the election but he didn’t succeed, so no crime. That’s what Republicans say.

So no crime in this case, right? Besides, the guy was just using his 2A remedies to save the country from a wannabe tyrant.

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Republicans believe in pro-gun, pro-life, pro-nuclear family, anti-violence, anti-riots, pro-borders, pro-good economy (high employment, low inflation, no stock market crashes, no recession, low-home prices, etc.) I could keep going but I think you get the point.

The republican party was created to stop slavery, then we also desegregated as well, and when Kennedy and Nixon finally gave blacks rights they were called racists and still are. That is also its ethos.
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and was actual violence, 
Oh, there was no actual violence on January 6? You are a real genius aren’t you?

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no stock market crashes, 
lol, all the major stock market crashes have happened on Republicans watch.

Hoover, Reagan, Bush, Trump

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The republican party was created to stop slavery, then we also desegregated as well, and when Kennedy and Nixon finally gave blacks rights they were called racists and still are. That is also its ethos.
LBJ got civil rights passed genius. And all the racists in the south became Republicans as a result 

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"that’s because you’re a MAGA MORON. It wasn’t rigged. Trump told a BIG LIE and the MAGA MORONS believed him.” Do you have ANY proof?

"harvests ballots? You mean count legal votes” It seems you’re the moron; No, I mean HARVEST legal votes.
 
"What do you mean, Trump didn’t even get shot, it was just glass fragments. So no crime.” Actually, his ear got shot, with the intention of his head being shot, which is attempted murder. Also, the shooter killed an innocent person at the rally.

"Just like when the defense for Trump was he tried to steal the election but he didn’t succeed, so no crime. That’s what Republicans say.” Once again, you bring no proof for your claim. Biden havested ballots and rigged 2020 not Trump when he tried to prevent it.

"So no crime in this case, right? Besides, the guy was just using his 2A remedies to save the country from a wannabe tyrant.” Still, no proof. + Are you actually defending the shooter?

"Oh, there was no actual violence on January 6? You are a real genius aren’t you?” I did not say that. I said that this is WAY worse because crimes DID actually transpire. Mind you against the Former and Future POTUS (with G-d’s help.)

"lol, all the major stock market crashes have happened on Republicans watch. Hoover, Reagan, Bush, Trump” Like Obama in 2009 and Biden now? Hoover and Bush weren’t nearly as bad as those two. and Reagan and Trump had excellent economies.


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"LBJ got civil rights passed genius. And all the racists in the south became Republicans as a result” Actually, Genius, Kennedy and Nixon did, and LBJ perverted them into DEI crap. He also messed up with Vietnam, that’s why he resigned after his first term.

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"Maybe Republicans are right. We need more guns in America, especially at Trump rallies.” Glad the Dems are FINALLY waking up. We as Americans need to protect ourselves from looneys like this!
This is what you’re taking away from the shooting? If anything, this says there should be more gun control. If we give everyone a gun, then even if you defend yourself, everyone gets hurt, or is in danger. Less guns = less shootings. The math isn’t that hard.
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harvests ballots? You mean count legal votes” It seems you’re the moron; No, I mean HARVEST legal votes.
What does that mean? So someone votes. They put their sealed ballot in a drop box. Someone authorized to pickup those ballots takes them to the county registrar’s office. What exactly is your objection to that? Are you upset that this process makes it easy for people to vote?

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Actually, his ear got shot, 
No. No his ear was not struck by a bullet. Some glass hit Trump’s ear. You are behind on the available information.

Also, the shooter killed an innocent person at the rally.
That wasn’t intentional. He was trying to kill a wannabe dictator using his 2A remedies. He’s a patriot. He’s a hostage. He’s a political prisoner.

Don’t you remember when Trump made fun of the violence against Paul Pelosi? The violence is funny, right? That’s how Trump looks at it apparently 

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Like, what ethos does the GOP stand for 

Hopefully not assassinating people you don't agree with, otherwise your country is already gone.
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Are you actually defending the shooter?
Well I guess this shooter cares more about the country than you do Kevin

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Actually, Genius, Kennedy and Nixon did, and LBJ perverted them into DEI crap. He also messed up with Vietnam, that’s why he resigned after his first term.
You need to go back to high school. Kennedy didn’t advance or pass anywhere near the civil rights legislation that LBJ did.

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"Less guns = less shootings.” less guns = tyrannical govenment.

"What does that mean?” It means that they are rigging an election, but for a party with no morals, this does not seem to bother you.

"No. No his ear was not struck by a bullet.” Apparently you are also a party of lies.

"That wasn’t intentional. He was trying to kill a wannabe dictator using his 2A remedies. He’s a patriot. He’s a hostage. He’s a political prisoner.” Anyone who refers to an assassin as a patriot prolly has some mental issues. 

"Don’t you remember when Trump made fun of the violence against Paul Pelosi?” It wasn’t an assassination and Nancy Pelosi is not exactly someone to look up to. This is just rhetoric pushed by the left as fearmongering of Trump.

"Hopefully not assassinating people you don't agree with, otherwise your country is already gone.” Yes, Sir.

"Well I guess this shooter cares more about the country than you do Kevin” You got some real issues man. I pray the best for you.
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prolly has some mental issues. 
Ya, prolly 

It wasn’t an assassination and Nancy Pelosi is not exactly someone to look up to.
It wasn’t? Paul Pelosi had more serious injuries than Trump did from some flying glass.

Nancy Pelosi never tried to steal an election like Trump did or incite a riot that got people killed.

She never raped anyone like Trump did.

She never faked a disability to get out of the draft during the Vietnam War 

She never scammed anyone with a bait and switch fake University 

She didn’t botch the response to Covid and get 1 million Americans killed.

I pray the best for you.
another Christian MAGA MORON heard from

with G-d’s help.)
What is this? Are you afraid to spell God?

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It's all fun and games until somebody gets an ear shot off.
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Yes, according to RawStory, law enforcement officials have reportedly informed two sources that Trump was not hit by a bullet but by glass shards instead.
From reports to Newsmax's Alex Salvi and Axios' Juliegrace Brufke, it has been stated that officials mentioned Trump was struck by pieces of glass, possibly from a teleprompter that broke due to bullets. Yet, the details are still unclear, as Trump himself has described the incident as being hit by a bullet.
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This is what you’re taking away from the shooting? If anything, this says there should be more gun control. If we give everyone a gun, then even if you defend yourself, everyone gets hurt, or is in danger. Less guns = less shootings. The math isn’t that hard.
So you want the government to go door to door and confiscate guns from everybody when there are 393 million out there and gun deaths account for 50k deaths a year out of which a vast majority are suicides and gang related. Thats 0.0127% even taking the 50k number
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I'm actually surprised it took so many years to have an attempt since your American media has encouraged it since 2016.
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Of course not, that ridiculous! The restrictions will be made much stricter, and anyone who doesn’t meet those requirements will be able to keep their guns. It’s just for getting new guns.
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Of course not, that ridiculous! The restrictions will be made much stricter, and anyone who doesn’t meet those requirements will be able to keep their guns. It’s just for getting new guns.
What restrictions? The kid got his dad’s gun who purchased it legally. Why is the gun the problem when it only affects 0.0127% of the gun population. 
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Republicans believe in pro-gun, pro-life, pro-nuclear family, anti-violence, anti-riots, pro-borders, pro-good economy (high employment, low inflation, no stock market crashes, no recession, low-home prices, etc.) I could keep going but I think you get the point.

The republican party was created to stop slavery, then we also desegregated as well, and when Kennedy and Nixon finally gave blacks rights they were called racists and still are. That is also its ethos.
Contradictions:
  1. Pro life and pro gun.  If a certain piece of gun control reduced the homicide rate 30%, then the republicans would still be against the gun control (which is fine for a party that doesn't claim to be pro life, but the GOP claims to be pro life, so it's not fine).
  2. Pro borders and pro economy.  Open borders is very good for the economy due to the population going up which in turn increases GDP.
  3. It is a contradiction to claim the GOP was the party that ended slavery while claiming the civil war is not about slavery to justify flying the confederate flag.
  4. Pro borders and pro life.  Deportations cause more innocent death than they prevent.

But having multiple different ethoses is impossible because it leads to contradictions.  Lets say the GOP believed in only 2 things; pro death penalty and pro nuclear energy (both are GOP positions, but lets say the left and right agree on everything else).  If someone is pro death penalty and anti nuclear energy (or vice versa), then are they republican or democrat?  You can't tell.  Who would be more republican, someone pro death penalty and anti nuclear energy or vice versa?  It's objectively impossible to figure out.  It's not a contradiction to be pro death penalty and pro nuclear energy, but these issues should be mutually independent issues.  Being pro death penalty shouldn't make you more or less likely to back nuclear energy (and this can apply for any combination of 2 random issues).  The one exception to this is if there is a consistent morality driving these 2 stances on these 2 issues (for example, being pro freedom causes libertarians to be pro 2A and pro LGBT; being anti unwanted pain causes left wingers to be pro gun control and pro LGBT, etc).  What is bolded are examples of an ethos.  An opinion would be something like pro-life (if pro life was an ethos, then it would mean being anti-abortion, pro universal healthcare, pro gun control and anti ICE because this is how you expand life the most out of these 4 issues).

If there was only one issue the left and right disagreed on, then it would be very easy to create a consistent ethos.  But there are so many different beliefs that the GOP has adopted that aren't connected with any ethos that it means if you only agree with about 50% of the beliefs, then are you a republican?  What if it's 60%?  67%?  Any % is going to be arbitrary.

What is the consistent ethos of the GOP (not beliefs, but ethos)?
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I want Trump assassinated, but it's not because I disagree with him.  The following analogy will hopefully make my point easier to understand.

Lets say you live in Missouri, where abortion is banned; you are a democrat governor candidate (pro choice), you run against a republican, you lose the election, and abortion gets banned in Missouri.  Is there anything wrong with being that pro choice losing govorner candidate?  Absolutely not.

Lets say they believe their election was rigged and they were saying, "If I lose, then it's rigged".  Is there anything wrong with that?  No.  She would be wrong, but you are allowed, by the 1st amendment, so say wrong things.

Lets say this pro choice governor candidate decided to try and violently overthrow the democratically elected governor of Missouri in Jefferson City.  All of a sudden, you are a terrorist.  While I agree with her on abortion, she is a terrorist and she should be executed for trying to overthrow a democratically elected government that she disagrees with.

This is why I want Trump killed.  I don't want him killed for his opinions.  I believe he's racist, but you know what?  You are allowed to be racist because of the 1st amendment.  Him being a racist president (along with Biden, who is also racist) is not good enough to merit the death penalty.  He can claim he lost the election; he can even sue Biden over the election that he thinks he lost if he pays for the court case; it's all free speech.  But Jan 6 is an act of terrorism which undermines the point of free and fair elections.

Trump deserves the death penalty solely for what he did on Jan 6.
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First of all, where did you see that he stole the gun, because I haven’t seen that yet. Second of all, it’s a problem that it affects anyone really. It only affects a fraction of a percent, but when we have so many people living in America, that’s too much. Some of it is unavoidable, but most of it is a problem that can be solved.
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First of all, where did you see that he stole the gun, because I haven’t seen that yet.
I saw a report somewhere.

Second of all, it’s a problem that it affects anyone really. It only affects a fraction of a percent, but when we have so many people living in America, that’s too much.
I already mentioned that it’s 50k people annually and most of that is suicide which is mental health or gang violence which is via illegal guns anyways. And you’re only looking at the negative aspects. Guns are tool that can be used for good too, like personal safety, sport, kill hogs. Protect yourself if police can’t come in time.

Some of it is unavoidable, but most of it is a problem that can be solved.
No it cannot, because illegal guns are always going to exist. It’s also noteworthy that you didn’t answer my question. What restrictions? Or are you just going to be vague like all the politicians
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I already mentioned that it’s 50k people annually 
Listen to that. 50,000 people are killed by gun violence each year! For context, about 30,000 to 60,000 people died in the American Revolutionary War. I know the times were different, and a lot less people were alive, but that number is still way to big. This is a huge problem that we need to solve.

It’s also noteworthy that you didn’t answer my question. What restrictions? Or are you just going to be vague like all the politicians

I didn’t think I needed to clarify, but I will. It’s pretty simple. Longer background checks, and limits on fully automatic weapons. 

You mentioned illegal guns by saying that those are a problem that can’t be fixed, but that’s actually one of my biggest things. A crack-down on illegal gun dealers would be the best thing that can be done really.

I know that guns can be used for good things, but the problem is that they can be so easily used for bad things also.
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You don’t need to lie. Half, about 25,000 are suicides.
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kill hogs
Another hog killing MAGA MORON 

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No it cannot, because illegal guns are always going to exist. It’s also noteworthy that you didn’t answer my question. What restrictions? Or are you just going to be vague like all the politicians
Bullshit. We are the only advanced country with this kind of gun violence