Thoughts on the Trump assassination attempt

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Call me whatever name you want under the condition that it's accurate.  But you won't be able to call me a liar.
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Imagine if WyIted was right:

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If Biden got assassinated tomorrow, then MAGA world would cheer it on (as would I).  They don't realize he would be replaced by someone tougher to beat than Biden; but I would.

If Trump's assassination attempt succeeded, then he would be replaced (maybe with Tucker Carlson) whom MAGA world loves and I would at least prefer to Biden.  I don't like that Tucker likes Russia, but he's better to a carcass for POTUS.

If Trump isn't a tyrant over Jan 6 if he succeeded (which was a threat to our free and fair elections), then I don't know who would be a tyrant.
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I heard the shooter had been cheated by Trump University. Lost his life savings 

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Obviously this is horrible. I truly despise Trump but by no means does he deserve to die. If anyone is saying that they wish he had died then they are just too wrapped up in politics to realize that this is a human life on the line.
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Does everyone remember how Republicans joked about the assault on Paul Pelosi and the speculation and misinformation the right wingers spread about the assailant? Should Democrats act the same way on this? You know, like MAGA MORONS.
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Did Hitler deserve to die when he was first looking to take power in the early 1930s?
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Did Hitler deserve to die when he was first looking to take power in the early 1930s?
One person's life or millions of Holocaust victim's lives?  Decision made.

Tyrannical leaders deserve to die; the 2nd amendment protects against tyranny.
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 I truly despise Trump but by no means does he deserve to die. 
What if Trump wins and takes away future elections like what he tried to do with Jan 6?

Human life is not priceless.  Valuable?  Sure.  But priceless?  No.

I would have liked it if the assassination attempt succeeded.  If you are a leader and don't want to get assassinated, then don't do tyrannical shit.
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I don’t think Trump will end up being that bad. He will try to hold on to power, but the end of our democracy? No. 

If I could have killed Hitler, yes easy choice, but I know the outcome in that scenario. I don’t think Trump is going to be that bad when he wins.
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Trump is probably going to get project 2025 done, which would make him a dictator and put an end to our democratic elections.
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It was probably one deranged person on the fringes of the left. I wouldn't prepare for war over it.
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First of all, Trump has been trying very hard to distance himself from the project. That is probably just smart politics, but I don’t think he will go all the way.

Second, John Wilkes Booth thought that he was taking down a dictator also. But Lincoln was a democratically elected president who was going to step down.

Point is, it’s not one persons job to decide who gets to rule. It’s the majorities job, and that’s what is going to happen this November. No matter what Trump decides to do with his four years (and maybe more), he will have been democratically elected. If he does attempt to become a dictator, we have safeguards in place for this, but we have a duty to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Otherwise, we become the dictators taking democracy into our own hands.
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First of all, Trump has been trying very hard to distance himself from the project. 
He said he disagrees with, "some" aspects of it, but doesn't clarify because he wants to appeal to crazy and normal people.  If he says, "I don't want to become a dictator", then he pisses off the crazies; if he says the opposite, than he pisses off the normies.  My rule is if you stay silent, then the most extreme position is assumed.  Lets say you ask if I'm racist and I say, "Well, um ...".  It's safe to assume I would be a racist in that situation.

Second, John Wilkes Booth thought that he was taking down a dictator also. But Lincoln was a democratically elected president who was going to step down.
I don't believe Trump will step down if he wins.  But to compare someone everyone likes (Lincoln) to someone only some people like (Trump) is bad arguing.

If he does attempt to become a dictator, we have safeguards in place for this
Trump is removing those safeguards this time around from what I've heard.

 but we have a duty to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Otherwise, we become the dictators taking democracy into our own hands.
I could see the argument here, but politicians don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.  If you ask a politician if they are racist and they say, "Maybe", it's obvious the answer is yes.  Trump said he would only accept the results of the election if he won.
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The problem here is that we don’t have complete proof of anything. If I was 80% sure that he would be a dictator, then fine, shoot him. But I don’t have that much confidence. 

But to compare someone everyone likes (Lincoln) to someone only some people like (Trump) is bad arguing.

John Wilkes Booth didn’t like Lincoln. The entire south didn’t like Lincoln. He even had critics in the north. The point is, you can’t take justice into your own hands.
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I don’t think Trump will end up being that bad. He will try to hold on to power, but the end of our democracy? No. 
JC, holding on to power with a BIG LIE is the end of our democracy genius 

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I don’t think Trump is going to be that bad when he wins.
Trump caused this country to have the first violent transfer of power in our history 

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Point is, it’s not one persons job to decide who gets to rule. It’s the majorities job, and that’s what is going to happen this November. 
That’s what happened in 2020, but Trump tried to subvert that process by telling a BIG LIE

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The point is, you can’t take justice into your own hands.
You also can’t tell a BIG LIE to rile people up and try to subvert Democracy.

The lying cost some people dearly, like Rudy Giuliani, FOX NEWS, Tucker Carlson, and the MYPILLOW GUY. 

TRUMP has yet to pay a price for his lies and subversions.

The reason we are in this position is Trump’s base of MAGA MORONS 

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 If I was 80% sure that he would be a dictator, then fine, shoot him. But I don’t have that much confidence. 
I have that much confidence.

John Wilkes Booth didn’t like Lincoln. The entire south didn’t like Lincoln.
Lincoln never did a Jan 6 if he lost and I don't think he would if he lost.

If Trump never did Jan 6, then I would be opposed to the assassination attempt.  I would still hate Trump; I would think he's authoritarian; but I would condemn the assassination attempt.  Once you do Jan 6, I want you dead because the tree of liberty needs from time to time to be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.
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Maybe I’m too optimistic, and I formally give you “I told you so” rights if this whole thing goes down the tube, but I have faith in our government system. I’m not saying it’s not a possibility, but until it becomes at least clear-ish that we have a revolution on our hands, I don’t think anyone should be killed.

Will Trump expand the powers of the president, yes. Will he throw an even bigger hissy fit if he loses, yes. Will he at least try legally to get a third term, probably. But undermine democracy? There is a chance he’ll try, but a much lower one that he will succeed. 

That’s my opinion anyways. 
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but until it becomes at least clear-ish that we have a revolution on our hands, I don’t think anyone should be killed.
You are not conceding that Trump told a BIG LIE in an attempt to steal the last election. That’s problematic and indicates a lack of credibility because you won’t acknowledge reality.

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Oh, it totally is, but that’s not enough for me to say he’ll be the next hitler or something.
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Oh, it totally is, but that’s not enough for me to say he’ll be the next hitler or something.
It’s not clear what you’re responding to here

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Sorry, responding to this:
You are not conceding that Trump told a BIG LIE in an attempt to steal the last election. That’s problematic and indicates a lack of credibility because you won’t acknowledge reality.


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I'm impressed by the fact that nobody is talking about the deep state which is obviously behind Trump's assasination attempt.

Trump will win and nobody will impede it. 
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Lol, if American's idea of preserving democracy includes assassinations, then it has already lost it.
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Talk about polarizing. 
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So you think it was Sidewalker? He said many times that he wanted to kill Trump. 🤣
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Honestly, you can't tell the mental state of them. (Americans)