Pie Recycled Roles Mafia DP1

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Same reason I don't think two doctors would be in the game. I think Pie would spread out roles.
They are all very different themes though, only thing they have in common is dealing with the government, but pie is a government junkie
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They are all very different themes though, only thing they have in common is dealing with the government, but pie is a government junkie
Who is going to tell him it's a waste of his life because he has zero influence on policy decisions or who gets elected. 

Imagine if he spent that extra time studying something that matters, like how to get pussy.
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Pie, good luck becoming the next Martin Skrelli by focusing on the level of based and redpilled each governor is, instead of reading pub med to find biotechnology stocks to short. 

Yeah you will definitely influence. Politics more by studying politics than by becoming a billionaire and paying off politicians. 
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This is going to be tough for me. I literally think you are all scum. 
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3 ways for pie to get laid

1. You are no longer Indian. You now tell witches you are Persian and force your parents to play along when you bring them home

2. Get Big son

3. Act like a dick. Many people get this wrong. For example some will ask a girl for her number, then get rejected and be like "fuck you bitch".  Wrong type of dick. You want to be an aloof dick not the type that gets butthurt. 

Practice this by cutting people in line . Remember be an aloof dick not an aggressive one so if they yell at you that you cut, instead of saying fuck you, pretend you can not hear them so they continue to piss and moan behind you. 

So practice this this week. You will probably be in line 7 times. I want you to cut in line 5 times for practice and then make it a daily habit. You'll be getting pussy in no time you Persian son of a bitch.  
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I am personally friends with a black chick who gets white guys to fuck her by pretending to be Italian. She's hot and I admit I fell for it. So do not have any qualms about lying about your race or denying your heritage. It will get you laid.
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I haven't had sex with her since I found it she is black though. My wife doesn't want me fucking black chicks and I am loyal. 
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I want to formally apologize for trying to be a father figure to Pie in this thread. It should have been in PM, but thought there are so many virgins on this site that somebody else could benefit as well for my complete list of race swaps to get more pussy read below

Indians pretend to be Persians.

Blacks = Italians

Chinese = Japanese

Canadians = French (not French Canadian but real french)

Short male = femboy 


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Alright fuck it

VYL Savant

for using contribed logic like Tuf pointed out. 

Thats all I need. This guy is really good at logic, so no excuse. In another thread he pointed out a flaw in my logic by pointing out that bodies falling out of sky scrapers have the potential to hit people on the ground, and here he knows pie has only molded like 12 games and is confused about why he would use 3 similar sounding games despite knowing pie has a very narrow pool of games to pull from.
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New phone guys.

Let's try again 

VTL Savant

Sent from my iphon 
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Official Vote Count:

Savant (1/5) - Wylted
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Alright, putting aside Wylted's weird and unrelated posts, I actually find myself in the same boat as Austin in that I don't have any clear scumreads on anyone.

Regarding negative utility roles that tend to get claimed early, I think my role might count? It's not a role like PGO which can cause a whole lot of chaos, but it's not really good for the town either. 
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I just noticed your gender is other. Back in my day we just called ourselves fag's. We didn't need no fancy letter to craft an entire identity around.

Be old school. Be a fag like me
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I was thinking and I thought that the play for mafia is to ask if certain roles are in this game. Mafia knows town is telling the truth about their characters, so the concern should be if they ask abouts roles, not games. 
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Do the mafia usually get to directly ask the mod what roles are in the game? 
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Never mind, I misread what Pie wrote.
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Alright. Anyway, since I view it as a negative utility role, I'm just going to come out and say that I'm the scapegoat. If there's a tie in voting at the end of a day where we vtnl, I get lynched. 
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Alright fuck it

VYL Savant

for using contribed logic like Tuf pointed out. 

Thats all I need. This guy is really good at logic, so no excuse. In another thread he pointed out a flaw in my logic by pointing out that bodies falling out of sky scrapers have the potential to hit people on the ground, and here he knows pie has only molded like 12 games and is confused about why he would use 3 similar sounding games despite knowing pie has a very narrow pool of games to pull from.

I was sussing Savant earlier for this but idk rly. It seems a bit contrived but I also think town is more likely to just put their thoughts out there whether good or bad.
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Agreed with Austin. I think the rationale for voting for Savant at this point is pretty weak.
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Give stronger evidence for somebody else. We might only have weak evidence all game for all we know. 
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Alright. Anyway, since I view it as a negative utility role, I'm just going to come out and say that I'm the scapegoat. If there's a tie in voting at the end of a day where we vtnl, I get lynched. 
Somehow missed this earlier. Although I can understand why you did this, I advise you not to do it in the future. Claiming a SOP role will always lead to measurable harm for town because it narrows the POE for scum to fire in.

You have to weigh whether the benefit town gets from knowing the SOP is greater than this. I don't really think that's the case with this particular role, since if town is really so divided that we can't agree to a lynch after an entire day of discussion, then it's better to have a negative utility role eliminated for POE.

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I also think town is more likely to just put their thoughts out there whether good or bad.
I think town is more likely to do that as well, bit it's not universal. I am giving out a ton of stuff as scum personally and by the nature of being scum I would have to have contrived logic
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It's still early so I don't know what type of evidence will unfold if any. However I do know that weak evidence is better than no evidence and that we win by lynching. 
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Give stronger evidence for somebody else. We might only have weak evidence all game for all we know. 
I mean, we could lynch you for rushing to vtl someone on weak grounds. Seems pretty scummy to me. 🤷

You have to weigh whether the benefit town gets from knowing the SOP is greater than this. I don't really think that's the case with this particular role, since if town is really so divided that we can't agree to a lynch after an entire day of discussion, then it's better to have a negative utility role eliminated for POE.
Yeah, I guess that's a good point. I wasn't really sure if I should have put that out there or not, but there had been no movement in the thread and I wanted to further some actual discussion. 
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I am not voting somebody for a negative utility role at all. Sorry. So she (tell me your pronouns so I don't have to spell out your name) is not getting my vote. I would rather vote somebody with a weak scum tell than somebody with none. 
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I mean, we could lynch you for rushing to vtl someone on weak grounds. Seems pretty scummy to me. 🤷
As a general rule I don't give a shit if I am lynched unless I am scum. Scums job is to avoid lunches, town's job is to eliminate scum.

The symbol tells me your pronouns are she/her though so thanks for that
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As a general rule I don't give a shit if I am lynched unless I am scum. Scums job is to avoid lunches, town's job is to eliminate scum.

The symbol tells me your pronouns are she/her though so thanks for that
I understand that. For me the thing that made me sus you a bit is not that you scumread Savant, but that you actually jumped to voting for him before there was any further discussion. Yes, obviously we want to lynch scum, and that's why we should take our time and not rush things. Scum benefit when there is little discussion before a vote.

And as for the emoji I used, it's actually supposed to be a gender-neutral one, but it doesn't actually display like that on all platforms. It shows up correctly on my phone but not on my pc. I actually prefer they/them, but if you want to use she/her that's fine too I guess.
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They them is dehumanizing so she her is what I will go with.

I meant only a fruit or a woman would use that symbol not that the symbol itself had a gender.

Also I guess I should let you know that I believe in pretty much always having a vote on somebody unless we are at LYLO or MYLO or unless I am keeping the vote off to delay a lynch in an effort to reduce town errors 
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I would also never call somebody it if they asked me. I think a lot of the LGBT community got psy_opped into just dehumanizing themselves. 

You are a human worthy of love and respect not an It or a They or a xer . 

I won't call you he if you present as a female but I sure as he'll won't dehumanizing you no matter how much you are begging me to
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Also I guess I should let you know that I believe in pretty much always having a vote on somebody unless we are at LYLO or MYLO or unless I am keeping the vote off to delay a lynch in an effort to reduce town errors 
Yeah, from what I've gathered so far it seems like the players here in general like to go for the DP1 lynch. This is counter to my intuitions, as unless someone is particularly sus or there's a strong reason for lynching someone, you're a lot more likely to end up killing a townie. But the wisdom of the experienced says to go for the kill anyway. I don't quite understand why, but I'll go along with it. I'm still not convinced we should vote for Savant yet. If it comes down to the wire, maybe, but I feel like we should wait until at least a couple more role claims come out. Has anyone even claimed their role except for me?