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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
Guys, plz give some reads on the Austin situation before we decide who to hammer.
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@Savant
If they vote Austin I will.
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@WyIted
Not really sure why you're trying to wagon me here. If I was scum I definitely wouldn't be playing the way I am now.
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@AustinL0926
How would you play differently?
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@AustinL0926
@Savant
So I'll get out my thoughts now.
On the one hand, I want to read Austin as town for this because I think it's an incredibly bad choice for scum. This almost seems tailor-made to draw attention to you.
On the other hand... sincerely, what the fuck dude?
Claiming this late in the DP is necessarily going to lead to some sussing. You've effectively made this a "worst of both worlds" situation. If you viewed this as an SOP claim, you would have claimed it early. You clearly viewed it differently, as evidenced by you saying that an "SOP role will always lead to measurable harm for town because it narrows the POE". WyIted would probably have agreed with you... before you claimed. WyIted would likely have continued to hide it and hope that no one Cops you or that scum just kill you because they think you're a PR of some import. That's a risky move, but it could result in a major benefit.
What you did gave away any potential benefit and instead necessarily draws attention to you. You say that you've been trying to make yourself look townie in the hopes of avoiding being Copped. Well, this claim does the exact opposite. I could have made some sense out of you claiming under pressure when Savant had a vote on you and there was a wagon forming. It would have also been bad timing, but at least I could understand that your efforts to not claim a POE role had just blown up in your face. It makes a whole lot less sense when there's no wagon on you and Savant is actively sussing other players. It's defensive and clearly, as you state, an effort to ensure that you are not the target of investigation.
All that aside, dude, while that "breadcrumbing" post certainly indicates your thoughts on claiming POE roles, it's not at all indicative of your being SOP yourself or of your being the Miller. I get none of that. So, I'll give you a bit of time to explain yourself, but you just jumped to the top of my scum pile for this.
I think I've made my thoughts pretty clear - that we should lynch Earth and force Joe to confirm his role. Savant can investigate somewhere in the POE (Moozer or Wylted). It would be one thing if I claimed my role under pressure, but I'm claiming here out of calculated risk-reward to help town.
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@whiteflame
Look I know I didn't play this very well, but I really hope you respect my play enough to know I wouldn't do smth so dumb as scum. I'm doing this because I think based on the way the DP's going, Savant is going to make a bad investigation call and it's going to blow up DP2.
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@Savant
I don’t scum read Austin for the late claim. I would have done differently, and I’m a little annoyed by it, but otherwise, it seems like a calculated choice. Maybe a poorly calculated one, but still doing what they thought was right.
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@whiteflame
@Savant
Fine, let's keep this simple to see whether I made the right call. Savant, were you likely going to cop me tonight? And do you think that if you were in my situation, it would be reasonable to assume that you would cop me?
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@whiteflame
All that aside, dude, while that "breadcrumbing" post certainly indicates your thoughts on claiming POE roles, it's not at all indicative of your being SOP yourself or of your being the Miller. I get none of that. So, I'll give you a bit of time to explain yourself, but you just jumped to the top of my scum pile for this.
My post was about it being a bad idea to claim SOP roles, right after someone asked for SOP roles to claim. Hence, I was hinting that I wasn't claiming my SOP role for a reason. Not really sure how else you interpret that.
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@AustinL0926
It would be one thing if I claimed my role under pressure, but I'm claiming here out of calculated risk-reward to help town.
I can call this move a lot of things. “Calculated” is not one of them. You’re guaranteed to be our lynch unless someone else proves clearly sus just because your role is unconfirmable and negative utility, but you’ve made it worse by selecting a uniquely bad time to give it.
Look I know I didn't play this very well, but I really hope you respect my play enough to know I wouldn't do smth so dumb as scum. I'm doing this because I think based on the way the DP's going, Savant is going to make a bad investigation call and it's going to blow up DP2.
If you’re town, you put yourself in a really bad spot and chose just about the worst time to claim. It’s as negative utility as you could make it. No I don’t believe you’d plan to do this as scum. I do believe that you might see the signs that you could be copped during the NP and try to prevent the damage before it happens. I don’t think at that point that it matters much whether you’re town or scum - you’re in the same boat regardless.
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@AustinL0926
Does it matter? If he cops you, then explain yourself or just say he was misdirected.
It doesn't look good for you tbh. It just looks like the scum team doesn't want to target Austin tonight for whatever reason so you claimed a miller role
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@AustinL0926
My post was about it being a bad idea to claim SOP roles, right after someone asked for SOP roles to claim. Hence, I was hinting that I wasn't claiming my SOP role for a reason. Not really sure how else you interpret that.
I interpreted pretty straightforwardly: that you were giving your thoughts on SOP claims and whether they should be given. That’s true whether you had one or not.
Honestly if he is town and I am in a mylo or lylo situation and Austin is around, we are losing.
It might be best to put ourselves in a Mylo or lylo situation without him around even if some of you guys town read him
STOP POSTING
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@AustinL0926
Savant, were you likely going to cop me tonight?
I was thinking about it but decided against it because several other people had town read you.
Official Vote Count:
Earth (5/5) - Austin, Lunatic, Casey, Savant, JoeBob
JoeBob (1/5) - Wylted
Please let me know if there are any mistakes before I post flip. I’m driving right now.
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@ILikePie5
It hasn't been 72 hours yet.
Please do not post unless it’s about the vote count.
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@ILikePie5
I UNVOTED EARTH!!!
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@Savant
It hasn't been 72 hours yet.
JoeBob hammered
Wait no, Savant unvoted before JoeBob hammered.
GAME CONTINUES
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@ILikePie5
I unvoted before he could hammer
Folks, I'm not going to be able to play for much longer. We have to come to a consensus fast.
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@Lunatic
We need your thoughts on this Austin situation.
Official Vote Count:
Earth (2/5) - Lunatic, Casey
JoeBob (1/5) - Wylted
2 hours and 11 minutes remain.
Joebob said that's five. It cam across as a type of victory thing to say. "That's five" almost celebrating. .
I don't like it because when I hammer or see a hammer as scum, my exact words to the mod and in my head right after is usually "that's 5" and PM the mod immediately after to rush them to end the DP before town can coordinate night actions
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@Casey_Risk
Vote Austin or joebob please. If you have to leave just place your votes on somebody, anybody before you do
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@whiteflame
@WyIted
I want to hear from Luna before I proceed, but given my earlier intuitions and whiteflame's scum read, I think Austin will probably be the best lynch target today.
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@Savant
I agree. I made a case and now I feel like I was gas lit into backing down LOL. He has felt very off and I could see scum chat thinking the DP was over and messaging g pie and then Austin making that claim thinking we were going into the NP