Pie Recycled Roles Mafia DP1

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Ok, I'm at about page 12.

Unvote

Sorry about that vote. I had zero brain power left, so I resorted to sheeping.
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And if anyone wants my claim, I'm happy to provide that.
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I don't think we need your claim yet.
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Okay I’m caught up, but I read pretty fast, so tell me if I’m missing anything.

So far we’re going after Joebob and Earth for inactivity, but Joebob first because he’s usually more active, and earth isn’t.

The whole Austin thing is mostly behind us, and I came out of that looking pretty scummy, so if Joebob and Earth come out pretty clean, I’m next.

I’m not sure I like lynching based on just activity so far, but I don’t really have a good alternative so I’m kinda between a rock and a hard place now.

Again, tell me if I missed anything
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Can we get a time check?
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Again, tell me if I missed anything
Not that I saw no
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I think we have like 3 hours left. Just place your votes guy
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Earth still seems the most scummy to me rn.

VTL Earth
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Moozer's recent posts strike me as townie, and so does JoeBob's claim.
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Next vote on Earth will be a hammer, but it's better than no lynch
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I really don’t like this, but I guess we don’t really have a choice. I’m leaning  to Joebob because while Earth isn’t normally this inactive, but is still not the most active.
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@Moozer325
Vote joebob. The lynch could go either way still
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@Savant
Alright so I went back and forth about this throughout the DP, and I think the risk is high enough that I need to claim.

I am a Miller. I crumbed this with my interaction with Casey. Someone asked for SOP roles to claim, Casey claimed, I replied with this:

Somehow missed this earlier. Although I can understand why you did this, I advise you not to do it in the future. Claiming a SOP role will always lead to measurable harm for town because it narrows the POE for scum to fire in.

You have to weigh whether the benefit town gets from knowing the SOP is greater than this. I don't really think that's the case with this particular role, since if town is really so divided that we can't agree to a lynch after an entire day of discussion, then it's better to have a negative utility role eliminated for POE.
I felt pretty confident that I could be townie enough through the DP that I wouldn't need to claim and make it easier for scum to hunt PRs. But since there's clearly been some tension between us, I don't want you investigating me and leading to a DP2 disaster.



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Also, do either of you find it odd how Wylted is so vehemently defending Earth and trying to flip Joebob instead? Especially given Joebob has claimed a confirmable role?
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i think I should vote Earth. its coming down to me or him, and my role is good, but I’ll wait a bit to let town decide until I vote
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I really don’t like any of my options here
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If we can get enough votes Austin gave us enough reason to vote him and that basically town confirms savant
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How is your role good?
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How is your role good
well compared to my roles in previous games im considering this good
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@JoeBob
If you know you're town, waiting for us to maybe lynch you isn't helpful. Hammer Earth if you feel that's the best play, then we can deal with confirming you tonight.
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Actually no don't hammer yet. Unvote.
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How do you guys feel about Austin's late miller claim?
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If you know you're town, waiting for us to maybe lynch you isn't helpful
oh yea your right

Vtl Earth


That’s five.
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@JoeBob
No, I want to see how people feel about Austin's miller claim. I unvoted, so there's no hammer yet. Plz unvote as well, just for now.
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We're still on 4/5. I'm happy to give people time to talk about my Miller claim. unvote


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@Savant
How do you guys feel about Austin's late miller claim?
I'm not sure how to feel about that. It's a bit surprising that he didn't claim that earlier, but maybe not that surprising considering how multiple people wanted to lynch him. Still, I have to wonder why he waited until now.
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No, I want to see how people feel about Austin's miller claim. I unvoted, so there's no hammer yet. Plz unvote as well, just for now.
True

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I'm not sure how to feel about that. It's a bit surprising that he didn't claim that earlier, but maybe not that surprising considering how multiple people wanted to lynch him. Still, I have to wonder why he waited until now.
Risk-reward. Claiming has a 100% chance to harm town by lowering the pool of potential investigative/protective/roleblocking roles. You have to weigh the risk of not claiming and messing up town against that. In general, I tend to be a pretty strong town player, and in fact I've been pretty widely townread this DP. I'm claiming because I'm worried Savant's going to tunnel on me and investigate for no reason, which essentially wastes an investigation, leads to a mislynch, and brings us to LYLO with zero extra info.
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Ugh, this is really frustrating. 

I just got home and I’d like to type out my thoughts on my computer after I’m done handling a couple of things here. I know there’s not a lot of time left, but I’ll detail my thoughts ASAP.

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@Savant
No, I want to see how people feel about Austin's miller claim. I unvoted, so there's no hammer yet. Plz unvote as well, just for now.
I think we should lynch him for it to be honest. It's not going to happen so maybe vote joebob.