- Pie has a variety of games with varying amount of 1x, 2x roles, and even has a joat with multiple 1x's, just like your role giving role.
You have presented absolutely no similar examples... oh wait.
You have given one. The one where scum has the only X-shot set of roles. My "role giving role" is pretty distinct from an X-shot role.
Your argument was essentially, there was only 1x role, therefore, this is likely a sus claim. I presented you evidence that there was roles with only 1x. Was this on the mafia side? Yes. But however these roles and 1x's were scrambled up between the two in a variety of games that I have looked from Pie with varying combinations. The point was that this type of analysis is essentially useless for a role madness game because mod psyche can only take you so far (besides the vanilla being non existant). You keep harping on such.
You are using a mod psyche in a role madness game where there is no consistency at all.
So, let me get this straight:
You've presented a set of 4 games that Pie has modded
Claimed that there were consistencies to them despite all of them being role madness games (seriously, note the lack of Vanillas)
Consistencies in having a 1x role. Consistencies in vanillas. Don't see the issue but sure
I pointed out that the consistencies between them don't track with the existence of your role
Now, you're backtracking on that and claiming that there's "no consistency at all" because they are role madness games.
There is no consistency to the amount of 1x roles there are given and in a role madness, it's what helps balances town the best. This the type of inconsistency I have tried to tell.
*slow clap* Brilliant maneuver. Honestly, if you were town, you'd scumread the fuck out of this right along with me.
I'd lean more on behavior and role analysis from themes I know, but good job assumption fallacy
- We have to look at the behavior analysis of the games and some of the results depending how much we trust it
I have looked at behavioral analysis. Last DP. Where you claimed 1X Cop unprompted despite that being a) blatantly anti-town, b) a clear effort to look townie by claiming early, and c) largely useless information in a DP where I was not on anyone's FoS.
You were on my FoS through my reads that I gave you on DP1. I gave you the explanation why I chose you over my other target. I still don't get what this proves. With your role being confirmed and the cop on you that I gave, we now essentially have you confirmed as town and BK likely as town, meaning for you it's down to 4 choices. My information I leaked was not useless.
Yes. I stated that I would've claimed differently now that I look back at it. This is my first time realistically playing a full mafia game in over a year. You made mistakes in the game with a mislynch, that arguably did MORE damage than just claiming a 1x cop too early in this game
I'll also point out that the above statement is also a behavioral problem. I don't think you'd be throwing every possible explanation (including contradictory ones) at the wall just to try and get out from under a mod psych argument if you were town.
Look at someone like Barney, who has flown off the grid from your analysis. Read his play. You let him off with a pass for wanting BK claim but also still suspect me. He is also the last one to make a claim in this game. He's been on both lynch trains that would benefit scum team. Barney was also pushing people like Earth, who we now know as town, into a deeper hole for their reads. He did the same with JoeBob from what I recall.
Just because I haven't talked about Barney doesn't mean I'm dismissing him. There are two scum in this game. I am convinced that you are scum. I am searching for your partner. The fact that I am aware of just how scummy your play is doesn't mean I'm ignoring everyone else. But, hey, thanks for the pretty basic analysis of his play I guess.
You clearly stated, there is no use in NL'ing this DP because Vader is scum. If you think that is dismissive and not anti-town, geez I don't know what to tell you. Lynching someone off reads that has no reports on them in a MYLO situation is so anti-town. You would rather lynch someone who is has no results based on reads alone, versus the optimal play of No Lynch and giving the town an extra day to decide.
I think you are tunnel visioning because of mod psyche and the role versus overall behavior
If reading a lot of your behaviors and your role claim as scummy is tunnelling (which seems to be a widely shared view at this point), then I guess that's what I'm doing. It's not like I'm honing in on one thing and claiming that alone is reason enough to pursue a lynch. But I guess that is how you'd want to frame it
Reference my comments above
