The Heroes of Olympus Mafia DP3

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Lynched DP1:

JoeBob - Nico di Angelo - “Twins snuff out the angel's breath, Who holds the key to endless death.” You are one of the few people in the series that knows the existence of Camp Jupiter. It was your father Hades who told you about this; consequently, you present yourself as the Ambassador to Pluto to the Romans. To help the seven, you tried to locate the Doors of Death that allowed defeated souls to enter the living world again. Unfortunately, you were captured by Gaea’s forces in the process and held hostage by the Giants Otis and Ephialtes in The Mark of Athena. Because you were the first to learn about the other camp and an ambassador to Pluto, you are the Emissary. Each night, I will give you reliable information towards the identity of one town-aligned player in the game. You win with the Town.


Died NP1:

Lunatic - Piper McLean - You are the daughter of Aphrodite. With that, you were blessed with the power to charmspeak. This means that you can magically convince people to do whatever you want them to. In fact, you once got a car for free by doing this. Clearly this is an asset to the team, but you still think you are the weakest of the seven heroes. This is clearly not true. Your weapon of choice (a knife called Katoptris) literally helped cut off the horn of a river god to create a cornucopia. This same item eventually helped you and the others to gain access to the lair of Otis and Ephialtes. Because of your charmspeak and ability to carry your own load when needed, you are the Loved - You require one extra vote to be eliminated than would otherwise normally be needed to achieve majority. This effect disappears at MYLO and LYLO. You win with the Town.

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Lynched DP2:

Greyparrot - Octavian - To begin, you are a jerk. You try to manipulate people into supporting you for the praetorship. On top of that, you are basically a war monger in support of killing the Greeks before they even did anything. As the Augur for Camp Jupiter, you mutilate teddy bears to get omens from the gods. As the son of Apollo, this is the perfect position for you, but you are hungry for more power. You play right into Gaea’s plans of wanting a civil war between the gods. This plan almost succeeds but fails because you prevent the demise of Camp Half-Blood by sacrificing yourself. Because you are the augur, you are the Prophet. On NP1, you must predict on which game day the game will end (DP2, NP2, etc). You win if you correctly predict this and thus win as a Third-Party. You may win with other affiliations to achieve your win-con if needed.


Died NP2:

Earth - Jason Grace - You are the younger brother of Hunter of Artemis Thalia Grace. As a measure to placate Hera/Juno, Zeus/Jupiter gave you up to her. Eventually, you found your way to Camp Jupiter and defeated the Titan Krios to topple Mount Othrys, the Titan HQ in the west. Made, Praetor of the Twelfth Legion Fulminata. You play a key role in the peacemaking process between the Roman and Greek camps--a plan of Hera/Juno to bring the gods and demigods together to fight the Giants. As the son of Jupiter, you take the natural burden of leadership, which at some points becomes too much for you, yet you still take on that burden from the others. Sometimes, leaders have to make sacrifices for their comrades. Thus, you are the Lightning Rod. Each night, you may target a player. Any night actions directed at that target will be redirected to you the Lightning Rod. You win with the Town.

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Remaining Players:

1. Barney
2. Austin
3. Whiteflame
4. Best Korea
5. Wylted
6. Vader


With 6 players remaining, it takes 4 votes to achieve a lynch. The day phase will end in 72 hours on April 12, 2024 at 12:30pm CST.


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Surprise surprise. Grey was the third party all along and Whiteflame was wrong. His whole agenda to push Greyparrot and his theory was incorrect and look who's still alive.

An interesting death with Earth. I wonder if he was actually targeted or he was a victim of the lightning rod

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Whiteflame still being alive despite getting a town cop is a bit strange and makes me question the result I got. I do suspect that maybe Earth targetted WF in the night but you can't be confirmed. A copped town player remaining alive is suspicious as hell 

I think Barney is the most town out of all the town right now per say
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Alright, so we're at 4-2. I know it was lightly discussed in the last DP, but I don't think there's much value in a NL this DP. Here's the updated dashboard:

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PLAYER         ROLE                 CHAR                                  NP1
Barney           ???                       Harry Potter
Austin              ???                      ???
Whiteflame   ???                      Leo Valdez
Wylted              Dreamer      Reyna Ramirez-Arellano     fail
Vader               1x Cop          Rachel Elizabeth Dare.        wf(innocent)


Graveyard
JoeBob            Emissary         Nico
Lunatic            Loved               Piper McLean
Earth                 Lightning Rod      Jason Grace
Greyparrot     Prophet(TP)      Octavian
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Vote counts based on who's been on each lynch

Greyparrot (5/5) - Earth, BestKorea, Barney, Wylted, Whiteflame
JoeBob (6/6) - Grey, Lunatic, Whiteflame, Barney, Vader, Wylted


This has resulted in a town being at 4v2. Obviously unless we get results the optimal play is VTNL, but let's analyze some patterns we've seen 
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It's also POE 4v2 because there is not a chance in hell it's a 1 person mafia cuz of TP and it's GG if it's 3v3 
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Surprise surprise. Grey was the third party all along and Whiteflame was wrong. His whole agenda to push Greyparrot and his theory was incorrect and look who's still alive.

An interesting death with Earth. I wonder if he was actually targeted or he was a victim of the lightning rod
I find this pretty silly. I wasn't advocating lynching GP during the last DP. I was advocating for lynching you. I admitted I was probably wrong about GP in the last DP - that's why he was no longer my top pick for a lynch - I just accepted that that was where people wanted to go with it.

Whiteflame still being alive despite getting a town cop is a bit strange and makes me question the result I got. I do suspect that maybe Earth targetted WF in the night but you can't be confirmed. A copped town player remaining alive is suspicious as hell 

I think Barney is the most town out of all the town right now per say
That's a pretty rich argument, especially considering that your purported Cop result is the only reason people believed you should live. If we can't trust that result (and I don't believe we can), then the FoS should be pointed at you first and foremost, not me. This is an especially ridiculous bit of breadcrumbing that you first started by claiming that your result was somehow lawyered. Yeah, very convenient for a 1X Cop.
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I might have to re evaluate my reads on BK based on a few things

He's been consistent in his read with Greyparrot and hasn't deviated from his lynch. I feel like scum would've tried to capitalize on at the minimum, the JoeBob train. So I actually think he goes into more of my town pile.

I actually didn't notice Barney being on both lynch trains, it turns my most town read into a lean town because he seems to be quietly going off the radar and hopping on the train. I actually have to read back on mafia games with Barney but this does concern me.

Whiteflame jumps out to me as well because despite a cop innocent, he is remaining alive. Granted I won't jump to conclusions with the outting of Earth's role, but it seems very suspicious 

Wylted is a tough read. He's sort of jumped on wagons constantly throughout this game, but he hasn't acted out of the ordinary to make me read him as scum, but his involvement in the two lynches makes me suspect of him

I feel like I might just be overthinking Austin's involvement but at the same time his behavior seems way to passive. Like he doesn't want to go at people but play more relax and go without being caught on. I feel like this is something he could do.

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I have 1x cop ability, and I investigated WyIted and he is innocent.

Someone has a role which gave me cop abilities last night.
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At this point, we need full claims. Both of you should do so as soon as you get on. So I'm going to go ahead and give mine:

I'm Leo Valdez. I'm the Mad Inventor. I've now given two items out over the previous two nights, though the target was only alerted that they'd received one during NP2 (the night after the night I gave it out). Unless necessary to confirm my role, I will not say who I gave those two items to, but I will say that my role is one of the main reasons I found BK's role claim convincing. I don't think he would have claimed that role blind to the existence of another role that grants items.
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I find this pretty silly. I wasn't advocating lynching GP during the last DP. I was advocating for lynching you. I admitted I was probably wrong about GP in the last DP - that's why he was no longer my top pick for a lynch - I just accepted that that was where people wanted to go with it.
You advocated for a Grey and Vader scum team because I was hesistant to believe that Grey was just doing this as scum and were persistent on Grey through DP3 before jumping on the JoeBob lynch train on a whim. And just accepting that people wanted to go with it seems pretty lazy town play from you especially

That's a pretty rich argument, especially considering that your purported Cop result is the only reason people believed you should live. If we can't trust that result (and I don't believe we can), then the FoS should be pointed at you first and foremost, not me. This is an especially ridiculous bit of breadcrumbing that you first started by claiming that your result was somehow lawyered. Yeah, very convenient for a 1X Cop.
It's just a suggestion and like I said...you being alive despite being a copped town role is even more suspicious but as I said, there is a possibility that Earth could've used his action on you, but I can't assume anything. I threw in all possibilities of how the DP could be tampered and that's one. 


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This is interesting. I don't find a reason to not believe you considering that Whiteflame just claimed that now. 
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You advocated for a Grey and Vader scum team because I was hesistant to believe that Grey was just doing this as scum and were persistent on Grey through DP3 before jumping on the JoeBob lynch train on a whim. And just accepting that people wanted to go with it seems pretty lazy town play from you especially
Yes, I considered that possibility. I didn't think it was the only one out there, and I fully admitted my mistake with JoeBob, though it was not on a whim. I was quite clear about why I made that choice. And, yes, I went with the only lynch that was possible at the end of the last DP. That's not lazy, especially considering the extent to which I argued for your lynch.

It's just a suggestion and like I said...you being alive despite being a copped town role is even more suspicious but as I said, there is a possibility that Earth could've used his action on you, but I can't assume anything. I threw in all possibilities of how the DP could be tampered and that's one. 
It's still an awfully convenient choice. All the odder that you had a 1X Cop role given that BK clearly got one of my items.

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You advocated for a Grey and Vader scum team because I was hesistant to believe that Grey was just doing this as scum and were persistent on Grey through DP3 before jumping on the JoeBob lynch train on a whim. And just accepting that people wanted to go with it seems pretty lazy town play from you especially
Yes, I considered that possibility. I didn't think it was the only one out there, and I fully admitted my mistake with JoeBob, though it was not on a whim. I was quite clear about why I made that choice. And, yes, I went with the only lynch that was possible at the end of the last DP. That's not lazy, especially considering the extent to which I argued for your lynch.

It's just a suggestion and like I said...you being alive despite being a copped town role is even more suspicious but as I said, there is a possibility that Earth could've used his action on you, but I can't assume anything. I threw in all possibilities of how the DP could be tampered and that's one. 
It's still an awfully convenient choice. All the odder that you had a 1X Cop role given that BK clearly got one of my items.

Yes, in fact, this is relatively normal. Especially considering that this is a basic item given and the Emissary role being revealed
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I still think Vader is the obvious lynch for this DP. I gave a great deal of reasoning for that last DP, and given the result of my handing over an item to BK, I believe it even more strongly. I cannot fathom that Pie would create a game where he gave a character the exact same role (1X Cop) as one of the items would impart coming from me. An item being a 1X use makes a lot of sense. A character having that same 1X use on that same role in the same game does not.
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Yes, in fact, this is relatively normal. Especially considering that this is a basic item given and the Emissary role being revealed
So I guess we're just going to ignore that your character has the exact same role, down to the number of uses, as an item of mine bestows? That's normal?

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Given that the other players are most likely town, two of these 3 are most likely scum:

Barney
Austin
Vader

This is the time for full claims, as town cannot afford a mislynch, so we need as much information as possible this dp.


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So by POE, if whiteflame and BK are both telling the truth with no tampering -

the scum team is Barney and Austin. These 2 would be the last to claim in a game where supposedly, not a lot of fake claims can be given out


there is the possibility that whiteflame and BK are lying and are colluding as town. I could also see this being true, but whiteflame has been so prominent in his reads and looking for scum in this game, I am more inclined to believe him in this game. I do think there's some form of manipulation role though because with all these results, there is no way that something didn't get colluded. 

the POE that whiteflame and BK are both telling the truth but the result was tampered

then the scum team is between wylted and either Barney and Austin
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It's worthless to go debating mechanics and what but I'm going to reference Pie games where he has numerous xShots in the game


A lot of these games had a 1x shot investigate + a main investigative + a wild card role + some form of vote manipulating role combined with a mafia joat of some sort.

I can't get into the schematics of Pie games, but what you are suggesting isn't out of the realm of possibility of Pie 
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For the record, this is night where is imperative to VTNL. We are at supposedly a 4v2. Mislynch and we lose. 
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Holy terrible grammar, this dayphase it is imperative that we VTNL as if we mislynch we lose
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I'm not sold on the wylted innocent report. Pie is well known for having an Electrician in his games, which reveal the affiliation of yourself. Wylted has been on two wagons as a whole.

The three scum possibilities
Barney
Austin 
Wylted

I am suspicious of Barney more than Austin because I believe that Barney has let a lot of the big arguing and bickering to me and whiteflame and other town members to fight it out while they take a backseat. He found a way to skate by without giving a claim for 3 dayphases as well while being the only person on 2 non mafia lynch trains.

Also in theory, it benefits scum to lynch Grey in Dp2 as well. It is made very claim that I am the top scum read for most town at this point in time. If they lynch Grey in Dp2, it goes to a vtnl in Dp3, and they mislynch likely me in Dp4, they get the full win without having to share it with GP. 
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It's worthless to go debating mechanics and what but I'm going to reference Pie games where he has numerous xShots in the game
There’s one particularly distinct thing about this game that is not in any of those:

You are the one and only claimed X-shot role. All three of those games feature more than 1.
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Here you go, and by the way since you are the one giving 1x's that would in theory be multiple, but I found a game for you
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4447-13-reasons-why-mafia-endgame
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I’d say there’s a big difference between items granting 1X shot and a character coming with a role that is a 1X shot.

Also, I love this example. Know why? The only X-shot is scum. Thanks for that.
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Here is what I think so far.

Whiteflame is confirmed town by 2 players, so there is no way in hell that anyone scum reads him.

WyIted, I will admit, his behavior was somewhat scummy, so I investigated him, and it turns out he is innocent, and there is no way I am lynching WyIted unless some good information appears.

I am obvious town, since if I was scum, I could have easily lied and said I got guilty on someone, who is actually innocent, and win the game for scum. So if anyone thinks I am scum at this point, then I dont know what to tell you, as scum wouldnt do what I did.

As for austin, barney, and vader, yes I can see Barney and Vader as a scum team, but if they are, then their strategy has been poor. Usually, scum isnt supposed to unite but it is supposed to divide, for example one scum attacks a player while other scum defends him. The fact that they were united most of the game tells me they are either not both scum either they had poor strategy.
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I am Annabeth Chase. I am the Ascetic (immune to non-lethal night actions). In my quest to recover the Athena Parthenos and bring peace between the two camps, I am forced to complete it alone, without any help from my friends (since it can only be found by a demigod who proves their own worth); I also successfully survive many trials and attacks along the way using my wits and knowledge.
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Ok I'm still catching up from yesterday and today, but I feel that whiteflame and BK have to both be town - the only alternative is that they're both scum, which I find unlikely.

That leaves POE of two scum between Wylted, Barney, and Vader. Assuming Wylted didn't get lawyered or something, that seems to simply put it at Barney and Vader.

Sorry if I'm behind the times, but I'm just trying to make sure I have everything correct here.