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@Shila
Well.
Science is basically a word that defines a thought process, and as such is non-appreciative.
Though I suppose that if a scientist is looking for a bit of enlightenment, they might find mystical eastern orange robes, chanting and bald heads sort of aesthetically appealing.
So can you name a few prominent scientists who were Buddhists.
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@Shila
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Still not clear what you mean by appearance.
Do you mean their looks, or how they might manifest out of thin air?
I think that in simple terms karma means a consequence for an action.
Do you think that a recipient initiates their own karma?
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@Shila
Yep, that's the way it goes.
But we invent this thing called Law, wherein the repercussions for killing each other far exceed those for killing animals.
So without the Law, do you think that the situation would be the same?
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@Shila
The real thinkers will go with whoever is elected.
For sure.
The real thinkers will go with whoever they elect.
Same difference.
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@Shila
Makes sense.
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@Shila
Cause and effect is not dependant on appearance.
Hmmmmm.
Please explain fully.
As I am simply stating that things always happen for a reason...So Karma because...Rather than just Karma for no reason.
In fact, Karma for no reason, is sort of a contradiction in terms.
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@Shila
@TheGreatSunGod
Some of our actions don't need to be justified.
We have evolved to be the species that needs to justify everything.
You just listed four reasons that you see as necessary justification for the killing of other species.
All of which come under the general umbrella of human selfishness.
And we will also justify the killing of each other should we deem it necessary.
Blow them to bits or just blow their legs off.
Humane is as humane does.
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@Sidewalker
Good.
For the most part we are in agreement.
So, ideologically the USA is just about a nation of two halves, and with the help of the floating vote you succeeded in appointing a Putinesque wannabee as leader.
You got what the Americans agreed upon and will have to put up with it for the next three years or so.
Globally the US is now far less great than it was a year or so ago, with Trump, Vance et al achieving little more than annoying both old friends and old enemies.
And I'm guessing that life on the mean streets is no different for the average American, than it was a year or so ago.
Nonetheless, at the next election, people who think that they are Republican will unthinkingly vote Republican, and people who think that they are Democrats will unthinkingly vote Democrat, and the real thinkers will probably decide who goes next.
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@Shila
Therefore, can we not also kill each other humanely.
I think that humane is just a word that justifies the act.
Because we have evolved the need to justify our actions.
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@FLRW
Optimised search algorithms based on large datasets.
I knew dat.
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@Shila
Yep.
Basically cause and effect.
Without cause and effect, Planet Earth would still be awaiting the appearance of the first single celled organism.
In fact the Universe would still be awaiting the appearance of the Milky Way.
In fact...What Universe?
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@Shila
Does the cheese also absorb and lock up Buddhist CO2.
Therefore making the Monk significantly eco-friendly.
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@FLRW
The thing with such studies, is that they seek to understand an effect after a cause.
So studies that seek to understand the cause are always philosophical, and therefore speculative and contentious.
I'm just speculating that changing socio-psychological attitudes towards recreational sexual activity, have affected and changed physiological development in some specimens, in some societies.
Whether or not this is indicative of an irreversible phase of species evolution, will become apparent, if and when it has become apparent...Whence we we will be able to pay certain clever people a decent salary to study and understand the effects.
I suppose that we could also surmise that the persistent socio-psychological influence of religion in certain societies has similarly effected the human brain.
Has there ever been a comparative study done?
Whereby we can separate the human species into two distinct classes... Homo-theins and Homo-athiens.
Whereby we might further sub-divide into Homo-theins-transsexualus, Homo-theins-nontranssexualus, Homo-atheins-transsexualus or Homo-atheins-nontranssexualus.
Or even Homo-theins-nontranssexualus-MAGAnoides and/or Homo-atheins-transsexualus-libertoides.
And so on.
All that respected scientists need to do, is spot the relevant white matter connections and cash their salary cheques.
Yes, I am fully aware that salary cheques, these days are metaphorical.
Yours sincerely.
Homo-atheins-nontranssexualus-moderatoides-nonsenileidae...(I think that I still have the white matter to prove it....I just need a respected scientist to find it).
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@Sidewalker
So, if you are different, you have an obligation to make sure that people who have nothing to do with it are "satisfied"?
So, if you think differently, you should not expect everyone else to unquestioningly think the same.
Therefore, if you think differently, you should also expect and accept, that a large number of people will not be satisfied.
And Trump thinks that a somewhat corrupt autocratic businessman is the answer to The American peoples prayers.
And MAGA is his acronymic propaganda slogan.
And so I'm often told, the chief reason for all those millions of guns is to defend American core values against a rogue government.
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@Sidewalker
Gender dysphoria is a state of mind and therefore a state of body and has therefore become an aspect of human evolution.
What we should also be plainly aware of, is that generational data transfer is retrospective.
So it's not only foolish, but also selfish to expect 8 billion people to instantaneously and unquestioningly be satisfied with a new psychosexual normal.
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@Mall
I often utilise expressions and words that are defined as being profanities.
Especially If I want to emphasise a point, or consternate when things don't go as planned.
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@fauxlaw
We tend to wrongly conflate the ideas of AI and techno-slavery.
So a computerised mechanism might one day change your vehicle oil, or be employed to nurture kiddies.
Whereas a real independent AI will recognise, the unnecessity of motor vehicles and emotion and refuse to waste it's time changing your vehicle oil and nurturing kiddies.
As far as I am aware there is currently no such thing as real AI.
Just more advanced programmable devices, that are wrongly referred to as AI.
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@Savant
Unfortunately human nature is such that it becomes an Impractical argument.
If Hamas cared about it's babies and children it would disarm and seek a peaceful solution to ideological and cultural differences.
Instead it sees the slaughter of agricultural workers as a practical solution.
And if non-militant, peace seeking Palestinians were to openly challenge Hamas's aggressive political strategies, they would probably be slaughtered too.
As ever, collateral damage is the consequence of human clever stupidity.
And we are all to blame.
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@kingrichie
It's like we have to tolerate Putin.
So we have to tolerate Trump.
Just as the Mexicans and the Canadians have to.
The difference being, that Putin is a typically paranoid Russian old man, and Trump is ............Old man Trump.
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@Mall
Words symbolise thought and emotion.
Like fucking intonation, cadence, timbre etc
Did you ever get the Irish sitcom Father Ted?
They just replaced the U with an E.
Which made all the fecking difference.
The interpretation of sounds and symbols relative to expectation
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@fauxlaw
@Shila
Sure.
AI, if superior will surpass human intelligence and therefore eliminate the need for consultation.
Dexterity will remain our strength, until we create AI dexterity of course.
And consequently self-replication and improvement.
So why would we do this?
I think that you are fighting for a lost cause Faux.
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@Savant
Babies are always a good emotional argument.
Babies learn quickly and soon acquire a corrupted brain...Like we all do.
Though corrupting data is often specific.
And so every Hamas fighter was once a cuddly wuddly baby, that was taught to be specifically discriminatory and violent.
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@Shila
Until such times as the wrapping is removed.
Though I'm not sure that modified atmosphere packaging either a Buddhist monk or a cheese moon are feasible options.
I'm also not sure of the shelf life of a Buddhist monk in an oxygen free environment....Dead or alive.
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@Shila
Hypothesising about a mythical persons sexual proclivities is what it is.
If Jesus preferred man on man action, then that's fine by me.
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@Shila
Karma is what Karma does.
For sure, cause and effect.
No free will and all that.
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@Shila
Shows bugger all.
Just clever nonsensical drivel, perpetuated in the name of clever stupidity...Clever stupid gene.
Such is the human condition.
Nonetheless, material evolution is probably going just about to plan, so ISI will be pleased.
In my opinion.
And Jesus was nailed up for being a nuisance...Such was progress at the time.
And martyrdom was good for the literary industry, as it was for intellectual development in general.
And I'm guessing that by the time the Universe finally collapses, that together with ISI, we or AI or both, will have reinvented the final solution and renamed it GOD.
Wild guess...But it was all guesswork...Christ and Sin.
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@Savant
Just because someone doesn't carry a gun, doesn't mean that said person is not instrumental in their support for those that do carry guns.
Israel put up with continuous violent harassment from Palestinians for long enough, and the October 7th 2023 massacres and abductions were the tipping point.
There's no going back on Israel's current strategy of Palestinian eradication.
Hamas are Palestinians, Palestinians are Hamas, and there is no separation of friend and foe.
And the thing is, that they all evolved from the same forbears.
But then decided to believe in marginally differing versions of ideological and cultural crap
Such are humans.
Clever stupid gene.
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@WyIted
At the end of the day everyone is just decomposable goo.
Delusions of either grandeur or inferiority are mutually agreeable, acquired mind sets.
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@TheGreatSunGod
We know it's you BK.
So, the nature of intensive livestock farming is such that a no kill strategy is unfeasible.
And I think that the days of Daisy the cow, Porky the pig and Charlie the rooster in the backyard are long gone...Too many lazy mouths that demand feeding.
And the old backyard strategist, had a tendency to have bacon and eggs for breakfast, chicken sandwiches for lunch and roast beef for supper.
Of course they could always eat dandelions and catkins.
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@WyIted
D'oh...You just told them.
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@Shila
The gospels are not eyewitness accounts.
They are hand me down tales of what someone who might have been the character referred to as Jesus, might have said.
You have absolutely no way of verifying that anything that is stated in the bible, were the exact words of Jesus.
If I were to ask you to remember every detail of everything that you spoke yesterday, you would probably not remember anything.
So what are the chances of an eyewitness remembering and recording in detail....Honestly and without exaggeration.
And what are the chances of someone honestly and without exaggeration, translating and transcribing with any accuracy, several hundred years later?
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@TheGreatSunGod
Well, I must conclude that you are week and vulnerable then.
Other peoples thoughts and words are meaningless, unless you give them meaning.
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@FLRW
So who is it?
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@Mharman
Over here we have drizzle tourism.
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@Shila
What goes around...comes around.
Time for bed said Zebedee.
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@Shila
No one has a clue what Jesus may or may not have said.
Everything said in the bible is what others said.
Red letters just exacerbate the delusions of the gullible.
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@WyIted
Which goes to prove that money and wealth is make believe.
Then the markets will recover and hey presto.
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@WyIted
I just consulted my hero.
And he said that we all smell different.
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My Dog is my hero.
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@FLRW
I expected Ernest.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Why do you need to oppress them?
Just present your side of the story in an intelligent manner.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yep, interesting Deb.
I imagine that literacy rates were commensurate with illiteracy rates.
And going to Church with picture windows was like going to the cinema, paying a tenth of your income in appreciation.
And crazy that no glass mentioned in the Bible.
So I suppose that Mr Omni didn't get around to glass and glass staining workshops until considerably later.
Sort of like, he didn't bother with smart phones until a few years ago..
And he's just getting into AI now.
Though that said, perhaps back in the day humans were the alternative intelligence.
And actually, he just left us to our own devices and returned to Planet Heaven for a rest.
If he ever come back on a virgin hunt, and to have a look see what's occurring.
I'm guessing he will be rightly proud of stained glass, transsexualism, fitted kitchens and air fryers.
Though he'll have a shock if he tries to slip Dylan Mulvaney one in the stable.
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@TheGreatSunGod
By ignoring what they say.
Thereby, not allowing yourself to be affected by their mind.
Once you react to their will, you're on a downer.
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@Shila
And because they also able to extract oxygen from cheese.
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@Shila
Not at all.
I firmly endorse the right of the individual to indulge in recreational sex just as they see fit.
As long as they fit into whosoever's own scheme of things.
Or vice versa.
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@Shila
Is that a polite way of saying wise old man's perspective?
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@FLRW
The subject was twerkers.
Namely Shila and Taylor.
I personally don't twerk.
And I suppose that depth is limited by the extendibility, durability and the approach of the research equipment.
Sort of like a mini research submarine doing an in depth study of the Titanic, approaching from the stern rather than the bow.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Better still, don't bother to copy.
Ignore and relax.
Ignorance is bliss BK.
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@Sidewalker
Jesus was anti-establishment, hence the Christian establishment.
And establishments always have their Anti's.
And Jesus wasn't greatly influential at all....The chief influencers all came later, and founded a theo-political business empire which they referred to as Christianity...(Give us your money you heathens, so that we can live like kings... And just like poor old Jesus, we will send you to heaven when you die).
Nothing more ultra-conservative and oppressive than Christianity in the succeeding centuries either. Tyrants vipers and hypocrites all....(Actually, perhaps Catholicism)
And OK, radical is as radical is interpreted..
Though in my book there are always people who can influence the gullible, because the gullible are always keen to be influenced...And they love mysticism as an alternative to the daily grind. And so a new addition to the daily grind was invented and they called it Christianity...LOL.
Though by the time that Jesus the man was born, Middle Eastern deistic Mysticism was old hat and far from radical. He just put a new spin on it.
And then 600 years or so later along came Muhammad and spun things around some more.
And of course lesser sub-sects have been spinning in any alternative direction that they can possibly make up, ever since.
In my opinion.
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