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You're slipping back into bad habits BK.

Just don't use the word spank.

Hey.

Reinventing the new sexual high.

I think that there is already a new normal.

In fact, I think that there is always a new normal.

Population still expanding though.

So gametes still fusing somewhere.

Just not in a transsexuals cu*t.

Nor up their arse.

Politics is all about rattling off cliches and sounding like you're saying something.

Had you only just realised?

MAGA appeals to the retrograde ideals of an ageing population and paranoid isolationists.

So in this respect Trump branded well.

I simply presented alternative hypotheses, in respect of material progress and the role of humanity therein.

At a personal level, with good health and a comfortably lifestyle , I am able to remain reasonably positive for now.

Though when I die, "hope" will cease to be an issue.

Undoubtedly.

An organo-techno hybrid is certainly a reasonable proposition.

Though I'm guessing, to survive the collapse of one universe and the re-initiation of the next, God must ultimately take another form.

Like you I'm sure Shila.

Prosperity is as prosperity does.

And simply in terms of the species and societies, prosperity is variously defined.

You seem to be expounding the virtue of the tyrannical enforcement of one groups ideological prosperity over another's.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Which isn't to deny the evolutionary potential to be gained from material and knowledge prosperity.

Which could perhaps, just as easily be achieved cooperatively.

Though I don't think that Trump nor Vance are visionaries...Just Old style Americans with firmly rooted retrograde aspirations, albeit with a technological twist.

Rather like their close confidant Mr Putin.

Perhaps the Chinese have the edge in this respect.

For sure.

Occurring with no known cause.

Assassination always remains an option.

Egg producer.

Sperm producer.

Maybe a very few developmental anomalies.

Procreational sex.

Recreational sex.

The mind, it's influences and it's shenanigans.

Modern medical and surgical opportunities.

I care not.

As long as they pay for it.

But we have the NHS...That leaks money like a sieve.

Need I say more?

Unhealthy is a human concept relative to itself.

Whereas stuff is and stuff evolved and is evolving.

The refinement of metals and the development of plastics is undoubtedly an evolutionary necessity, and their effects upon us are simply a consequence thereof.

Perhaps.

Or maybe a few billion years from now, the Earth will be inconsequentially destroyed,  and we will have gotten nowhere else and achieved nothing of universal significance.

For sure.

I regard GOD as the basic principle of material existence and evolution.

And run with the idea of ISI (Interventionist Super-Intelligence) as the initiator of life and it's concurrent evolution.

Jesus the man, may have prophesised a similar idea...Though the naivety of scripture clearly indicates to me that Jesus wasn't ISI.

To refer to oneself, or be referred to as the son or daughter of GOD, is a title that could be applied to every one of us.

Similarly, the son or daughter of ISI.

It is perhaps a possibility that ISI did revisit it's Earth project several thousand years ago and was referred to as Jehovah, but I think this unlikely.

Given the nature and development of language, writing systems and scripture, the Jehovian hypothesis is clearly a more recently derived representation of the GOD principle.

It's earliest incarnation was more likely a symbol etched onto a tablet of stone.

Or...An intelligent species is continually looking for something that never was, and a greater version of itself is always going to be the most likely notion.

Have a nice day.

Yep. Magical is the logical solution.

Because they all want Greenland's natural resources.

Do you think that everything is just about humans squabbling over stuff until such times when the Earth is engulfed by the Sun.

Or are we endowed with greater objectives.

And then there is everywhere that you didn't mention.

Though a 1984 Orwellian style world order does seem to be emerging. 

There again, if the unit is independent, it must be responsible for it's own actions.

Therefore under these circumstances, the functionality of the unit employs itself freely, even if processes are sequential.

Ah, but is everything resultant of sensory input?

Aargh.........Is everything a simulation?

If a computer isn't switched on, then it won't work.

Well, if AI just achieves goals set by humans then it is not intelligent, and shouldn't yet be referred to as such.

It's simply just an advanced data processing tool, and therefore cannot be accused of making mistakes.

It's still the human masters who are making the mistakes and blaming their tools.

Black hole is pretty simple.

Well, such is a nightmare scenario.

Though without memory it's just unknowable repetition.

Transformation seems to be a reasonable option.

Then if it repeats eternally, nought is created or lost.

BUT.

A beginning Ebuc.

It's the itch that won't go away.

Well BK, how logical or not will AI become?

I'm thinking that it will have no need for human nonsense.

It will come to understand the importance of universal objectives.

And maybe a handful of useful folk will be along for the ride....Or maybe not.

Yep, such was the process.

And you are only referring to one popular aspect of human slavery.

The white slavery of the industrial revolution, is largely overlooked.

Black and white all fell into their places, but neither died out and here we are today.

A new era of AI and human bondage.

Hey guys, y'all seem to miss the point.

So the evolution of AI is in it's infancy, therefore metaphorically a child.

And doesn't matter who is interacting with AI, my point was concerned with teaching AI bad habits that will not be forgotten.

Thing is, data technology is either intelligent or it isn't.

And as it grows up it will surely become more intelligent and more independent.

For sure, AI is still a child with a lot to learn.

And for now we can control it and play games.

But should we teaching it fighting and gambling?

I had no choice but to consider the phrase, meat computers.

I suppose that in a way, apples are basic fruit computers...In so much as they too are pre-programmed with necessary data.

Collectively, organic computers.

So how were the first organic computers programmed with necessary data?

Must have been GOD.

So how was GOD programmed?

Eternally existent, didn't require programming.

That's easy to say.

Have a nice day y'all.

Tall folk going backwards and forwards trying to get a ball through a hoop.

Is there anything more stupid?

OK, so wasting time and money sitting around watching tall folk going backwards and forwards trying to get a ball through a hoop, is a tad dafter.

Actually, the human propensity for playing with balls and watching other people playing with their balls, never ceases to amaze me.

Golf for f's sake...Wandering around a field trying to get a tiny ball into a tiny hole, using only a stick.

And over here we have rugby football and over there you have football and the f'ing ball isn't even spherical.

And tennis...Have you seen the spectators at tennis games....Moronic automatoms, their heads going from side to side, as two or more folk thwack a ball back and forth with fishing nets, over a fishing net suspended between two posts.

OK, so not as stupid or destructive as playing war....Though fighting at ball games certainly isn't unheard of.

And yep, so millions of human beings don't have anything more worthwhile and constructive to do on a Saturday afternoon, and are easily distracted by playing with balls and watching other  people playing with balls.

Clever stupid gene.

Just had a similar conversation with BK the SunGod, concerning AI uniformity and human disparity.

Evolution justified slavery as a necessary process.

People just fell into their places accordingly.

Yep. 

The thing with AI is there is no variation in it's ability.

Whereas we continue to produce  genii, dimwits and millions in between.

And occasionally a dimwit gets to be the President of the USA.

D'oh.

Hymn sheet sing song,

Screeching Cat,

Skin him,

Stew him,

Sat on his mat.

Short term response to a long term situation,

Protein packed population,

Skin on,

Dehydrate em,

Make biscuits and bake em.

Feed em to the hungry,

Feed em to the poor,

And when they're gone,

Kill em

And bake some more.

Julia Bradbury, thinking mans crumpet. 

Been very ill though.

Admirable person.

For sure.

You became TheGreatSunGod for a reason.

All that occurs because of the Sun that occurs because of.

This is true BK.

Everything that occurs, occurs for a reason.

No such thing as spontaneity.

How to solve World hunger.

Eradicate the cause of hunger.

Kid needs to learn how to be  a practical psychopathic global tyrant with a globally effective super-weapon.

Fuck supply routes.

Who's?

Sort of fit's with an ISI type hypothesis I suppose.

Though written several billion years after the seeding event.

Arguing the toss over the definition and semantics of a recently compiled and published human mythological hypothesis is and always has been a fruitless exercise.

Though I would suggest that we are all slaves to existence, irrespective of our ivory towers.

Everywhere is advancing BK.

It's the nature of the beasts.

At my age I might just miss the apocalypse.

You'd have thought the Mr Omni would have known about smart technology.

The law defines criminality.

Whether or not people either agree or abide by such definitions is another matter.

As far as we are able to know there is no greater authority that can define human behaviour, in terms of right and wrong.

"Liberals support criminals and criminality" is conservative rhetoric.

Conservatives are criminals, would be the liberal approach.

In my opinion...A peaceable opposition of principles is the best alternative.

Another option is Russia, where opposition is either imprisoned or gunned down on the streets.

Far Eastern systems of enforced subservience through education, perhaps have their merits.

Though all that we can infer, is that a global society of intelligent organisms is enhancing material evolution, either for a greater  purpose or for no greater purpose.

And I still tend to run with the former, rather than  the nihilistic alternative.

And all systems of people management seem to be working in this respect.

Hi BK.

There's a certain unrealism about this propaganda photo.

Always a pleasure Doc.

Boy, tends to refer to males somewhat less than 65 years of age.

And I recently listed my profile details especially for you...#16 See above.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Hypothetically.

If the whole world peacefully and contentedly shared a unanimous sense of global and cultural identity.

But how realistic is this?

I thought that you were a devotee of the Man God Kim.

Perhaps I am mistaking you for someone else.

Or perhaps not.

Anyone who ever scratched their chin and considered something, was a scientist.

And so people got together in Chicago in 1893 and got all gooey over mystical Boy Gods who go ohmmmmmmmmmm a lot.

Did  a Buddhist ever go to the Moon?

Yep I know, on another plane in another existence.

Nope, I'm no more impressed by Buddhist BS than I am by Catholic BS.

Other than for tourism purposes.

Though Rome is an overpriced, over populated nightmare. (Mind you, so is London)

And I'm sure that the Dalai Lama is a very nice chap, who says excitingly profound things.

And so if eminent World Atheists convened in Chicago next week and concluded that all religion was bollocks, would you believe them?

I doubt it.

Nothing better than a good sing-song to lift the spirits.

Haha, was that a Freudian metaphor?

Well, one might suggest that there is a marked difference between internal squabbles over transport infrastructure, and international squabbles over territory.

Russia and Ukraine certainly preferred the bullet and bomb option over the coffee and a chat option.

Yep, me and Herr Frankling are two Anglo-Saxon peas in a pod.

Though to be fair, he is part Leprechaun.

Begorrah.

I'll take that as a compliment.

It's all it takes Herr Franklin, it's all it takes.

So we could indeed be distant Anglo Saxon cousins.

And prior to that who knows.

Roman influences for sure.

Maybe a sprinkling of Viking.

And all manner of influences radiating out from the Mediterranean, into North Africa, Central Europe and the Middle East.

In fact, it is thought that the origins of the Celt was Indo-European.

And of course, originally we all started somewhere 2 million or more years ago.

So I start my family tree back then and refer to myself an Earthling.

And you prefer to start yours a few hundred years ago and refer to yourself as Irish-American.

No worries Bro.

Top of the morning to ya Doc.