vi_777

You need to get your AI to brush up on it's spelling.

And I would suggest that we reason for a reason.

Why is Vladimir so popular in Russia?

Observers see Putin's high approval ratings as a consequence of the significant improvements in living standards and Russia's reassertion of itself on the world scene that has occurred during his period of office. One analysis attributed Putin's popularity, in part, to state-owned or state-controlled television.

Cause and effect.

what do others think?

For some reason we are programmed survivalists.

Existence is the most complex thing in existence.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

We can only assume that the simulation is representative of an existent quantity.

A Zedku is a verse of as many lines and syllables as I see appropriate.

Just saying that existence is complex.

So, we might think that we share beliefs, which is true.

Though beliefs are wholly internal, which isn't to say that they do not use external signalling as a stimulus.

 A LIFE is the duration of a sentient event.

Any definitive ideas vi?

Is it just and electro-chemical ignition, sort of a big bang in the womb.

 Ok, so when the Ayatollah Khamenei  of the Islamic State of Iran issued a Fatwa ordering the Death of Novelist Salman Rushdie was he acting in accordance with Islamic Law and its teachings?

protests by muslims;

There is no "flaw" there at all. They are either Muslims that follow the Quran to the letter Or there are Muslims that follow their misinterpretation of the Quran. which is it?

to put it simply, there r Muslims that do follow the quran to the letter, yet there r some who, despite believing, don't really follow it all. there is both good and evil.

if there is some instance where the followers strictly adhere to teachings n all, could u specify? n it is not always necessarily misinterpretation, those ppl may know what Islam tells them to do in such a situation, yet they might confine themselves to their emotions n all. 

u can't hv either complete perfection or imperfection.

All for a Universal nanosecond of existence and awareness.

Then autodestruct.

Life is the interval between breathing in and, breathing out.

A ''''''''Zedku''''' for vi_777

Stop skirting the question.

So then what religion and what interpretation of what book are they acting on?

"They are acting on their own flawed understanding of Islam, not on the Qur'an or authentic teachings of the Prophet Muhammad

So the religion that these "individuals" are getting their ideas from is Islam.  And the book they interpret (wrongly or rightly) is the Quran?  Yes?

u mean the muslims?

Well are the "individuals" Muslim?

A Muslim is someone who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of Islam

Ok. But that wasn't what I asked. 

I asked:  Are the "individuals" you spoke about HERE>>  #18 that kill someone for , say writing a novel, Muslim or not Muslim?

if they do believe ALLAH is their only creator, yes they r muslims,

Well then  if they claim that they believe in Allah and that Muhammad is his prophet then they are Muslim. And their teaching comes directly from the Quran. Right?

well yes, but don't take it to the point that their teachings r the rzn for all this.

But you have agreed that "their teachings " come from the Quran. 

You can't say on the one hand that "these individuals" that claim that they believe in Allah and that Muhammad is his prophet  are Muslim and their teachings come from the Quran but on the other say -  the Quran is not the reason for their actions.  You are trying to have it both ways. 

They are either Muslims that do follow the teachings of the Quran to the letter or there are other types of Muslims that don't, which means they are not Muslims although they insist they are  Muslims because they believe in Allah and that Muhammad is his prophet  , which is it?

some more ref.

so.....

who in the Islamic hierarchy  can issue a Fatwa?

this is a contributing factor as well to what ppl think of muslims and islam

Well then  if they claim that they believe in Allah and that Muhammad is his prophet then they are Muslim. And their teaching comes directly from the Quran. Right?

Do you know what a Fatwa is ? 

And for one religion only.

Ok. But that wasn't what I asked. 

I asked:  Are the "individuals" you spoke about HERE>>  #18 that kill someone for , say writing a novel, Muslim or not Muslim?

"At the end of the day, it’s not about blindly throwing accusations or clinging to preconceived notions; it’s about understanding the deeper truths with an open mind. So, instead of running away from the facts, maybe it’s time to genuinely question the source of your beliefs and whether they truly align with justice and truth."

kay, so you didnt read the quran and you get all your responses from chatgpt.

I enjoyed our little discussion here for some time, but now I am bored of it, so you can keep talking here as much as you want and promoting isislam, myuhammad and alhah, and genital mutilation and eternal torture. Really, you can promote whatever you want here. Its a free speech site. Free speech isnt common in islam, but here, you have it.

"It seems like you’re avoiding the question, probably because you don't have the proper answer to back up your claims. Instead of fleeing from the discussion, how about we focus on providing real, sourced evidence? I’m more than willing to engage, but I need something substantial to work with."

Still lower life expectancy than Japan. I guess even the best of isislam isnt best.

"First off, it's important to focus on the facts, not just a comparison of life expectancy. While Japan may have a higher life expectancy, it doesn't mean that Islamic teachings or Muslim-majority countries are inherently flawed. Life expectancy is influenced by various factors, including healthcare systems, wealth distribution, social policies, and even historical context. Every country has its unique challenges and strengths, and simply comparing them doesn't reveal the whole picture.

it seems like you're putting more effort into criticizing rather than understanding. When you continuously make errors, it might show you're not fully engaged with the subject at hand, which is the real issue. If you want to truly understand something, you have to approach it with the right mindset.

And lastly, so what if Japan has a high life expectancy? It doesn't negate the fact that Islam, like any belief system, has its values based on principles of justice, compassion, and respect. Every culture, including Japan's, has its own struggles, even with the best of things. Let’s not ignore the complexities."

This way, you're encouraging a more balanced perspective and pointing out that looking beyond surface-level comparisons is essential to understanding any topic deeply.

Islam offers clear, divine guidance for all aspects of life, whereas Japanese culture, though rich in tradition, lacks the same level of universal moral clarity and spiritual purpose.

1. Universal Moral Clarity:Islam provides explicit moral teachings in the Quran and Hadith that cover all aspects of life—family, justice, ethics, and spirituality. These teachings establish a strong moral foundation based on divine principles, with clear definitions of right and wrong. The guidance is not subjective but rather rooted in divine revelation. Islam emphasizes the importance of individual responsibility, the value of community, and how to live a life that pleases Allah, with the ultimate goal being eternal salvation.
   
   In contrast, Japanese culture, while emphasizing respect and harmony through traditions like Shintoism and Buddhism, lacks a comprehensive, divine moral framework that governs all aspects of life. Japanese beliefs do not offer clear guidance on major ethical questions such as justice, personal conduct, and social equity in the same definitive manner Islam does.
   
2. Spiritual Purpose and Accountability:Islam provides an intrinsic spiritual purpose that extends beyond the material world. The teachings emphasize that this life is a test, and the actions of an individual have eternal consequences in the afterlife. Islam teaches that every good deed is rewarded, and every wrong deed is accounted for, with Heaven and Hell serving as eternal consequences. This concept of accountability brings a deep sense of responsibility and purpose to life. Muslims believe that everything they do, from personal actions to how they treat others, has spiritual significance that will be judged by Allah.
   
   Japanese culture, by contrast, lacks the same sense of eternal accountability. While Japanese traditions may focus on personal duty, respect for elders, and societal harmony, they do not offer a comparable spiritual concept of afterlife consequences. The notion of reincarnation in some Japanese traditions, like Buddhism, does not carry the same finality as the Islamic teachings of Heaven and Hell. This lack of ultimate accountability can leave individuals without the same level of existential clarity and urgency that Islam provides.
   
3. Divine Justice and Social Responsibility:In Islam, justice is not just a societal ideal, it is a divine mandate. The Quran and Hadith lay out detailed instructions on how to administer justice, care for the poor, uphold rights, and promote fairness in society. The concept of Zakat (charity) and the emphasis on social welfare systems are built on the understanding that every person’s wealth ultimately belongs to Allah, and humans are merely stewards. Islamic law (Sharia) is designed to ensure fairness, equality, and justice in society. There is a clear framework for how individuals should interact, and how society should function to ensure no one is oppressed or left without support.
   
   In Japanese culture, while there is a strong emphasis on societal harmony, respect, and order, these principles are not backed by a divine system of justice. Japan’s societal structure may focus on social order and collective well-being, but it lacks the moral authority and guidance provided by Islamic teachings regarding justice, economic fairness, and human rights. Moreover, Japan’s concept of morality is largely based on societal consensus rather than divine will, which can leave room for inconsistencies in how justice is perceived and applied.
   
4. Comprehensive Guidance for Personal and Family Life:Islam offers a comprehensive guide to personal and family life, with explicit instructions on marriage, parenthood, the rights of women, and the role of men, promoting mutual respect and protection. The Quran and Hadith offer guidance that helps individuals navigate the complexities of family dynamics and personal conduct, ensuring strong moral foundations. The emphasis on family unity, respect for parents, and care for children are fundamental aspects of Islamic teachings.
   
   While Japan also values respect, family unity, and filial piety, these values are not divinely mandated in the same way. Japanese culture places a strong focus on individual responsibility and social harmony, but without the same universal divine backing that Islam provides for relationships and family roles. The lack of a divinely-inspired framework can leave room for differing interpretations of family dynamics and personal duties.
   
5. Islamic Perspective on the Afterlife:One of the strongest differentiating factors is the Islamic concept of the afterlife. Islam teaches that every action, whether good or bad, is recorded and has eternal consequences in the afterlife. This belief provides ultimate purpose and motivation to follow divine guidance. The hope of paradise and the fear of hellfire create an eternal context for human actions, making the teachings of Islam highly relevant to all aspects of life.
   
   In Japan, although there is belief in reincarnation within some Buddhist traditions, the afterlife is often perceived as an ongoing cycle rather than a final destination. The lack of a definitive eternal afterlife with consequences can lead to a more materialistic approach to life, rather than one that is focused on spiritual growth and eternal salvation.
   

Conclusion: While Japan offers a rich and unique cultural heritage that emphasizes respect, harmony, and societal well-being, Islam provides a more comprehensive, divinely-guided framework that addresses not only this life but also the afterlife with ultimate divine justice. Islam’s clear moral code, focus on divine accountability, and spiritual purpose create a more universal and purposeful way of life, offering clear answers to questions of justice, personal responsibility, and the meaning of existence.

Well, alayh said it is. I guess alayh lied.

The Qur'an is the holy book of Islam, the literal word of Allah (God) as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) through the angel Jibril (Gabriel). It serves as a guide for all aspects of life, offering instructions on worship, morality, law, and guidance for personal conduct.

You’ve misunderstood quite a lot here. The Qur'an does not make any promise that women who cover themselves will not be raped. This is a misconception. The actual teachings encourage modesty for both men and women, and the focus is on mutual respect, not a guarantee of protection from harm.
It is not about using covering as a shield against violence. No verse in the Qur'an places the blame on the victim or justifies any form of assault, and rape, in particular, is considered a grave sin. The responsibility lies solely with the perpetrator, not the victim.
If you're misunderstanding these key aspects, it’s clear that your understanding of the teachings is misguided. The Qur'an, in its true essence, promotes respect and justice, not the distorted view you have. You’re not getting the full picture here.

Well, yeah, muslim countries are way worse by life expectancy.

I am writing alhah correctly. Its my label for god of qyuran.

"I understand that your view might come from personal experiences where you encountered Muslims who didn't follow their faith properly, which might have led to negative impressions. But it’s important to remember that those individuals' actions don’t reflect the true teachings of Islam. What you've experienced is a distortion, not the essence of the religion itself. Islam’s core principles advocate for peace, respect, and understanding, and judging the entire religion based on a few people's failure to practice it properly isn't fair to the faith as a whole."

I dont really plan to explain to you how guessing game works. qyuran also said that women who cover themselves wont be raped. alahb is the best of liars.

No, alhah sounds much better, so I will stick with alhah.

Before anything else, I want to make it clear: If you're truly seeking the truth, then I'll give it to you—all of it, in its entirety, without holding anything back. But it all starts with your willingness to accept it for what it truly is. The truth isn’t always easy, but it’s always real, and it’s the foundation on which understanding can grow.
When you’re ready, I’m here to walk you through it, step by step. There’s so much more to see when we look beyond surface-level assumptions and open ourselves to the deeper, more meaningful perspectives.
Let’s approach this with hearts open and minds clear—because only then will we be able to fully appreciate the bigger picture.

And you think bullying doesnt exist in alah-ila schools?

Even with high suicide rates, Japan's life expectancy is higher than in any muslim country, by far. Besides, murder and torture is the worst form of violence. Murders and tortures are very common in muslim countries. Muslims promoted both male and female genital mutilation, as well as constantly killing not just non-muslims, but even other muslims. Muslims promote hate towards gays and trans.

If you're evaluating both the people who ignore the message and those who embody it, then the real measure should be the teachings themselves

So we should just ignore that alhah failed at teaching?

Okay.

Maybe alah quranit teachings are good? No, I read her alalhy teachings. They are very bad and psychopathic. I would never torture anyone eternally in a fire, especially not for being an atheist who just denies the psychopathic message of quranany.

don’t mistake the failure of individuals to live up to a higher standard as a failure of the teachings themselves. If you truly seek understanding, approach the message with the intention of learning, not just rejecting. The real test isn’t whether you disagree with a concept; it’s whether you’ve genuinely understood it before making a judgment.

You are not making any sense here. alahy either succeeded in making muslim group more peaceful than others or alahy failed. Or do you want to cherry pick only "decent" muslims from the group to prove that alahy succeeded? Well, there are less decent people in alahy group than in some other non-alahy groups, so alahy didnt increase amount of decency with teachings from his alahy God head

this is just for u guys to think once, no other purpose. if anyone can answer, i'd gladly hear.

Both. But those who embody islam arent good people either, so really, this is just failing either way.

The definition of a teacher is someone who makes others learn something. Since alahs failed to teach muslims to be more peaceful than others, alahs is a failed teacher by definition.

Well are the "individuals" Muslim?

So the religion that these "individuals" are getting their ideas from is Islam.  

Well are the "individuals" Muslim?

And the book they interpret (wrongly or rightly) is the Quran?  Yes?

No, thats just you attacking a strawman I didnt even mention.

The argument was that teachings of alah arent good at teaching people, so alah fails at teaching people. Thus, alah is a failed teacher.

Imagine this: If there truly is a Creator who knows you better than you know yourself, wouldn’t His message, when fully understood, resonate with your heart, even if your mind resists it now?

The Qur’an says:

"Indeed, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest." (Qur'an 13:28)

The human soul longs for peace, meaning, and connection beyond this temporary world. That’s why many who deeply explore faith—often those who once doubted—find something they didn’t even know they were searching for.

You’re questioning deeply, and that alone means you care about truth. Isn't that what truly matters? You don’t have to force belief. Just keep seeking with an open heart. Because truth, if it’s real, has a way of finding you—when you’re ready to receive it.

Sometimes, the most profound answers come not from arguments but from reflection. So, what if you paused, not to accept, but just to ask: “If there is a truth beyond what I see, let it reach my heart in a way I can’t deny.”

After all, if God is real, wouldn’t He be patient with your journey? And if the truth is truly beautiful, wouldn’t it embrace you when you’re ready?

Okay, so non-believers (atheists) who deny the message burn alive eternally, and you justify that. Thanks for supporting my argument, I guess.

If someone claims to “fully understand” Islam but remains an atheist, it signals misunderstanding or bias. The Qur’an repeatedly states that its guidance is clear to those sincere in heart and mind. Rejection comes from pride or denial, not from clarity.

Thus, if an atheist truly comprehends Islam, the Qur’an, and the teachings of the Prophet (ﷺ), they will not want to remain an atheist—because Islam aligns with truth, nature, reason, and justice.

Stop skirting the question.

So then what religion and what interpretation of what book are they acting on?

If someone commits violence claiming it’s from religious teachings, does their claim automatically prove the religion promotes it?
Think about this: If a scientist misuses scientific knowledge to create a destructive weapon, do we blame science itself or the individual’s intent? The same logic applies here. People committing violence may claim to act on religious teachings, but unless their actions align with the actual scripture and the life of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), their claim holds no weight.
If the core texts of Islam—the Qur'an and authentic hadiths—don’t command such acts, then attributing their behavior to Islam is a false association. A person’s misuse of a concept doesn’t define the concept itself.
So, I ask you: Are you judging the religion by the manual (Qur’an) and the Prophet’s example or by the actions of those who clearly act against both?

The concept of eternal punishment is found in many religions, often as a consequence for rejecting guidance rather than a random act of cruelty. 

So you think eternally burning all atheists alive in a fire is not cruel? And you still dont understand why I dont respect religion which promises to burn me alive eternally after I die?

Interesting.

• Just like a murderer who destroys lives can face life imprisonment, someone who spreads evil without remorse faces eternal consequence.
  

• You call it cruelty, but consider this: Should a mass murderer face the same fate as an innocent person?
  
• If someone knowingly rejects goodness and spreads evil for eternity, isn’t eternal consequence fair?
  

"Burning eternally in Hell will be by the command of Allah alone. On the Day of Judgment, His justice will prevail—there will be no other power, no appeal, and no injustice. On that day, you will witness the reality of His judgment for yourself. The punishment will fit the sin, nothing more, nothing less. If the concept of eternal punishment troubles you, perhaps it’s because, deep down, you sense the gravity of that accountability—and that concern is valid."

Then who's religious idea and which religious book  have they distorted?

There are many surahs in Quran saying all non-believers will burn alive eternally, even if they do good deeds. Now, you can pretend that Quran doesnt say what it says, but that just makes me not respect your religion even more since you are basically a liar.

• Non-believers are rewarded for their good deeds in this world and, depending on Allah’s mercy, in the afterlife.