ohhh snap! Is this revenge for Catholic Church debate? XD
I jest, I jest. Good luck on your vote. I'm eager to see if Fruit miraculously won this debate.
you know, I'm surprised Roy didn't think of your arguments. But I think he was thinking offensively with Ice skating being similar to the 7 point system, which is flawed. You played your cards trickier and more defensively than Roy.
2017 is not really past history.. https://publichealthreviews.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40985-017-0060-9 ("In recent years, the practice has been documented in countries in North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Africa")
Let’s be honest, if pro was whiteflame he’d already have won this debate by R2, if the premise was what I thought it was (persons define the language equally or better than the dictionary, something like that). Sadly mall isn’t whiteflame
What do you mean you are not talking coercion? The use of coercion is precisely the big flaw of sterilization. It would be like adding the button that can revive one person to the abortion debate to solve the problem.
Ohohoho... very interesting. This guy doesn't support human cloning because of fakeness rather than disabilities produced. I've only seen that idea a handful of times.
luckily, Mall isn't Whiteflame. Even if this was a policy debate, he will only ask questions one way or another and ask you to prove rather than refute your ideas. So you only have to propose some generic kind of reform or idea and say it will succeed, and Mall will fall.
obviously. But if pro had been Whiteflame and said no kritik, shared bop, with the resolution being closer to that People Are Effectively Dictionaries, then Oromagi would crumble down.
pretty sure he knows that. He just argued from an overarching perspective with experts using Systemic Racism and Pro failing to say, if they were not talking about this racism, what were they talking about?
I see. I guess that's why online it suggested asking what exactly the punishment should be with Abortion. With manslaughter, the legal implications are interesting. I think I focused too much on morality. As Jordan Peterson notes, Abortion is clearly wrong. However, illegalizing abortion may be even more wrong, somehow.
any additional tips? I haven't seen even Ragnar successfully negate the fact that the value of the human life, especially third term abortion, should not be ridded. That 1% is severely bothering me. Is the framework the problem? (should I say, only abort first term). Or is there actually a way to win 3rd term abortion, because I've seen experts successfully argue that it's better to live horribly than never be born at all. I tried to say that you're effectively reborn 10 years later, but it seems you didn't buy it.
( and also Cornell University's argument links to Rape, but I probably didn't link that well enough together.)
let's just hope Imminent Downfall isn't as strong as Undefeatable, lol. I think he was daunted by his own research. If Bsh1 was con I would not want to be pro.
yeah, but surely you've done research right? Glancing over Undefeatable's massive wall of text, either this is a super strong gish gallop or you're doomed (unless we did something massive in the last 5 years that discredits MIT president + the study)
I already showed the smoke free policies result in less smoking. The reason why this is one of my strongest is that I personify Smoking and I use powerful emotional imagery to craft my opening case. When you get too specific the criminalization falls apart.
I'm surprised you're pro on this. When I was debating bearman about whether to fix the prison system, I hadn't even considered the possibility that racism doesn't exist
you know, I feel like you'd be the perfect person (or maybe MisterChris) to see try to refute the con side of pressing the button that revives your most loved one. Your insight makes me feel you could penetrate the complete BS argument and figure out what's wrong with it lol
this might interest both of you. It's not the same topic, but it points out interesting ideas. https://www.debate.org/debates/FOX-is-the-most-vicious-nasty-manipulative-thing-ever-to-arise-in-the-US-in-terms-of-news./1/
eh. First time round I only looked at the surface. Second time I tried to analyze a bit further and see where the two's arguments actually stood.
three vote now.
care to give your personal thoughts? You're the most reliable voter I know of, other than Ragnar.
ohhh snap! Is this revenge for Catholic Church debate? XD
I jest, I jest. Good luck on your vote. I'm eager to see if Fruit miraculously won this debate.
you know, I'm surprised Roy didn't think of your arguments. But I think he was thinking offensively with Ice skating being similar to the 7 point system, which is flawed. You played your cards trickier and more defensively than Roy.
I was tempted to go for something else like the button that customizes your perfect life, or even the button that revives your most loved one LOL
to be fair, it's more creative than killing all humanity
well, since you wanted to take this, I suppose you know this topic well? Care to vote?
easy vote
ohhh! that argument's gotta hurt. Nicely done from fruit inspector.
2017 is not really past history.. https://publichealthreviews.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40985-017-0060-9 ("In recent years, the practice has been documented in countries in North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Africa")
bump
Let’s be honest, if pro was whiteflame he’d already have won this debate by R2, if the premise was what I thought it was (persons define the language equally or better than the dictionary, something like that). Sadly mall isn’t whiteflame
What do you mean you are not talking coercion? The use of coercion is precisely the big flaw of sterilization. It would be like adding the button that can revive one person to the abortion debate to solve the problem.
Dude play it easy on Mall. I could hardly understand your argument reading it at 1 am
ohhh you seem like a really solid debater. Assuming fauxlaw just ties and RM continues to ff, you might just be the first to end his name sake!
Ohohoho... very interesting. This guy doesn't support human cloning because of fakeness rather than disabilities produced. I've only seen that idea a handful of times.
luckily, Mall isn't Whiteflame. Even if this was a policy debate, he will only ask questions one way or another and ask you to prove rather than refute your ideas. So you only have to propose some generic kind of reform or idea and say it will succeed, and Mall will fall.
don't worry, I've got a better argument than last time LOL. I'm gonna try to see if Roy + Chris's combined argument works or not.
obviously. But if pro had been Whiteflame and said no kritik, shared bop, with the resolution being closer to that People Are Effectively Dictionaries, then Oromagi would crumble down.
no offense, but you are literally a walking talking dictionary. Maybe you should've let me accept this instead. XD
don't die on me now!
I'm going to try accepting this as practice to improve my pro abortion stance.
pretty sure he knows that. He just argued from an overarching perspective with experts using Systemic Racism and Pro failing to say, if they were not talking about this racism, what were they talking about?
I think Con wanted to debate, "It is justified to support the current state of meat industry in 1st world countries". Being more specific helps.
I see. I guess that's why online it suggested asking what exactly the punishment should be with Abortion. With manslaughter, the legal implications are interesting. I think I focused too much on morality. As Jordan Peterson notes, Abortion is clearly wrong. However, illegalizing abortion may be even more wrong, somehow.
any additional tips? I haven't seen even Ragnar successfully negate the fact that the value of the human life, especially third term abortion, should not be ridded. That 1% is severely bothering me. Is the framework the problem? (should I say, only abort first term). Or is there actually a way to win 3rd term abortion, because I've seen experts successfully argue that it's better to live horribly than never be born at all. I tried to say that you're effectively reborn 10 years later, but it seems you didn't buy it.
( and also Cornell University's argument links to Rape, but I probably didn't link that well enough together.)
That won’t work with intelligence. If you read Oromagi debates, he always starts off very strong and he has never been beaten
that wasn't as nearly as strong as I expected for your username, lol.
let's just hope Imminent Downfall isn't as strong as Undefeatable, lol. I think he was daunted by his own research. If Bsh1 was con I would not want to be pro.
they might do some weird variation, like, a humanoid alien with equal intelligence tries to go into our society. Should we accept them as equals?
yeah, but surely you've done research right? Glancing over Undefeatable's massive wall of text, either this is a super strong gish gallop or you're doomed (unless we did something massive in the last 5 years that discredits MIT president + the study)
I already showed the smoke free policies result in less smoking. The reason why this is one of my strongest is that I personify Smoking and I use powerful emotional imagery to craft my opening case. When you get too specific the criminalization falls apart.
I'm surprised you're pro on this. When I was debating bearman about whether to fix the prison system, I hadn't even considered the possibility that racism doesn't exist
is it just me or this is a truism
wow. Much productive.
that would be tragic lol
thanks for taking your time. I probably lost though lol. I almost conceded last round
you know, I feel like you'd be the perfect person (or maybe MisterChris) to see try to refute the con side of pressing the button that revives your most loved one. Your insight makes me feel you could penetrate the complete BS argument and figure out what's wrong with it lol
oops... "cannot"... I worded it wrong lol
Either you’re really good at AI related research, or you failed to realize this is basically the equivalent of having sufficiently advanced AI
Sadly there is only a handful of expert articles that support YEC. That’s why I’m doubtful about it
Oromagi be like: Aw hell no, I ain't facing Whiteflame until debate 100
XD
I was gonna invite you but then I realized I didn't want to debunk a humongous list like Mister Chris's stuff
this is the first time Bearman has faced a debater in the top 10. Break his win streak!
this might interest both of you. It's not the same topic, but it points out interesting ideas. https://www.debate.org/debates/FOX-is-the-most-vicious-nasty-manipulative-thing-ever-to-arise-in-the-US-in-terms-of-news./1/
you are a brave, brave man for accepting this debate...
you can try this if you want.
the more I read Ayyantu's debates the more I feel she is a doppelganger of Whiteflame.
well, if you could only believe in religion 20% of the time (my LD rate), that's one hell of a "useful" God you got there.