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@RemyBrown
Six dollars isn't much to give for the privilege of voting.
Some people go out in the excessive heat of the sun for the privilege of voting.
Some people go out in the rain for the privilege of voting.
Some people go out in a blizzard for the privilege of voting.
Some people gave their life for the privilege of voting.
So go out and vote.
Except if you have no idea about the candidates and issues. Then stay home and save the six bucks.
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Please vote on debate....https://www.debateart.com/debates/5738-humans-should-live-in-ignorance-and-refuse-to-learn-anything
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I am getting "server error 521" lately during sign in. Is there a problem? It could affect debates if an argument cannot post and debate is forfeited.
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@WyIted
The situation was ...person A has 20 quality sources. Person B had ZERO sources. Yet the voter gave credit to person B. How could that stand?
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I have found, via inspection, that the votes on who won a debate is way too subjective. Some votes do not reflect the contents of the debate. I saw one where the debater who used many sources was awarded NO points when the debater with NO sources was awarded points for "better sources" (?). It seems wrong.
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@Best.Korea
Now I need 2 shots!!!!
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@Best.Korea
WOW! I'm off to see my doctor to get an anti-nonsense" shot.
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@Best.Korea
You are a relativist, therefore the preponderance of others contrary to your belief proves that you alone are wrong. Some many others are right.
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@Best.Korea
I am going to use your "reasoning" against your position.
You are wrong on so many levels, thus proving that I and all the other comments that disagree with you are completely correct.
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@Best.Korea
Let us break down your statement thus:
A... "Everyone should have freedom"
Disproved in comment #4.
B..."Everyone should have passion"
Disproved in comment #4.
C..." a 4 year old boy has a right to change his gender."
While a 4 year old child has some limited rights, the parents extend a "legal umbrella" over that child. Changing gender attributes involves medical and surgical procedures and costs about which a child has virtually no legal authority.
D.."this topic is a truism"
Obviously it is not.
E.."if person wants something, its logical to try to get it"
The jails are full of people who thought this to be true.
F.."trans rights are most important thing in the world."
Trans rights aren't even in the top 100 most important things in the world.
G.."I dont think there is anything to disagree with here, or argue with."
You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false.
H.."you either concede that trans rights are most important, either you are wrong."
You may think that, but all these comments seem to prove your belief to be false.
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@3RU7AL
Actually the quote is "for it is the mark of an educated person to search for the same kind of clarity in each topic to the extent that the nature of the matter accepts it." from Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics.
Thus when I see that the nature of a topic is akin to bovine excrement, I am compelled to then see it buried.
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@3RU7AL
Assignment rejected.
You presented a "steel man argument" for Biden.
Others were asked to refute that argument.
I did .
Job done.
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@3RU7AL
Then exercise this
(1) "the american rescue plan" - injected money into the economy
INFLATION 20.36%
(2) "infrastructure investment and jobs act" - injected money into the economy
INFLATION 20.36%
(3) "uyghur forced labor prevention act" - prevents some goods produced with slave labor from entering the united states
Impacts were primarily off shore.
(5) biden directed the labor department to require all businesses with 100 or more employees to ensure their workers are either vaccinated or tested once a week
Where is the C / B report?
(6) biden halted funding for the border wall
Record breaking illegal migration
(7) biden reversed the muslim travel ban
More "undocumented visitors"
I still recommend that YOU cast your vote for Joe and nobody else. An uninformed voter is a great danger.
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@3RU7AL
You said in #1...
"(IFF) you believe these are pro-toto good government policies (THEN) you should cast your vote for joe biden"
By all means.... go to the polls in November and vote for Biden AND NO ONE ELSE. We will all be better off.
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@3RU7AL
I said ..."Even if a person says something, one cannot ascribe absolute validity to one's own conclusion about that statement."
you've just invalidated every statement trump has ever made
No. I have just invalidated everything you have said. You can assume anything you want, but it is just that ....AN ASSUMPTION. You need to find other sources to backup your assumption.
You seem to have below par reading comprehension. I clearly was speaking of your assumption about what you heard.
Example.
You called the "Trump Travel Ban" the "Trump Muslim Ban". You ASSUMED that since you had hearsay evidence your OPINION even though FALSE was correct.
A quick review of historical texts shows your opinion to be less correct; maybe a few beers short of a six pack.
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@3RU7AL
I cannot agree to the motive of another, just as you cannot.
Even if a person says something, one cannot ascribe absolute validity to one's own conclusion about that statement.
If you look up what Trump said and when he said it, you might be surprised.
i wonder if 100 % of the people impacted by the "trump travel ban" just happened to be from countries with very poor standards for issuance of passports, you know, by pure coincidence.
There was no ban on people from Indonesia, and that country has the largest Muslim population in the world.
Now demonstrate to me that you " read "Trump travel ban" in Wik" before you say anything else.
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@3RU7AL
so they did the next best thing
which is to "temporarily" ban travel from muslim majority countries
See above 9998>2
i wonder if 100 % of the people impacted by the "trump travel ban" just happened to be from countries with very poor standards for issuance of passports, you know, by pure coincidence.
Just read "Trump travel ban" in Wiki, before you say anything else.
You might understand ....Oh never mind.
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@3RU7AL
You are welcome
You said "i had no idea this topic was controversial" . Maybe that was because you drank some kool aide.
Perhaps you have learned to look beyond the poorly informed sources and go to the point where it all began.
I never argued that Trump wanted to ban Muslims, and that was never the topic. You tried to make it about that, but it never was.
Here is a good bit of info:
"Supreme Court Upholds Trump's Travel Ban : NPR. Supreme Court Upholds Trump's Travel Ban By a 5-4 vote, the court reversed a series of lower court decisions and said a rule banning nearly all travelers from five mainly Muslim countries was within the president's authority."
You should read the entire article, which includes comments from SCOTUS.
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@3RU7AL
i wonder if 100 % of the people impacted by the "trump travel ban" just happened to be from countries with very poor standards for issuance of passports, you know, by pure coincidence.
FO
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@3RU7AL
the ban only impacted 0.02% of all Muslims ( 37 thousand out of 1.8 billion) as cited above.
In other words 99.98% of Muslims were not affected.
For the mentally impaired .....99.98 % is greater than 0.02%. ( 9998>2)
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Here is a factual analysis......
""President Biden has presided over declining deficits, but that’s because the deficit started staggeringly high because of the pandemic," said Steve Ellis, president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, a group that tracks federal spending. "If you compare the deficit to pre-pandemic levels, they are incredibly high. Some of that is still residual effects from the pandemic response and higher interest rates, but it is also from increased spending and decreased revenues." https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/mar/05/the-deficit-has-fallen-under-joe-biden-but-its-sti/
[ emphasis mine]
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@3RU7AL
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It was "Executive Order 13769....Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States".
Also the ban only impacted 0.02% of all Muslims ( 37 thousand out of 1.8 billion) as cited above.
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@3RU7AL
Your mathematical operators are impeding your reasoning.
Perhaps a Venn diagram and a good history book would be better for you.
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In SCOTUS, the current "liberals" vote together 82% of the time.
The "conservatives" only agree 23% of the time.
Thus which group votes the LAW and which votes AGENDA?
"Article III [ of the US Constitution ]states that these judges “hold their office during good behavior,” which means they have a lifetime appointment, except under very limited circumstances. Article III judges can be removed from office only through impeachment by the House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate."
It's all there already.
NO change needed.
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@Best.Korea
Give me the name of just ONE non capitalist nation.
Now state their EPI
Define Capitalism.
Provide sources.
FO
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@Best.Korea
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The EPI was measured for 181 countries for which data was available,
The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations.
Thats again, false, since they are all capitalist countries driven by profit.
NO! The EPI was measured for 181 countries for which data was available, without regard to type of government. The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations.
And you again ignored that less polluted countries are only those where government (not Capitalism or profit driven) acted to reduce pollution.
The data refutes what you believe. The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations. The MOST CAPITALIST countries scored the highest in EPI, meaning they were the "cleanest". The least capitalists scored the lowest. Now go swim in Lake Baikal !!!!!!!!
So giving credit to Capitalism (profit driven) for something the government did is retarded.
First off YOU should not be throwing around the term "retarded", for obvious reasons.
I have not "given" credit to capitalism. The data clearly does.
Now provide sources for your false opinion or F. O. ( it might F*** Off or it might mean Find Out )
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@Best.Korea
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The EPI was measured for 181 countries for which data was available,
The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations.
The data is irrefutable, even though you might try.
All countries you listed are profit driven, thus capitalists.
Define "capitalist nation" using sourced material.
Now respond only with your "source".
Your opinionated banter is in fact banal.
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@Best.Korea
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I cited a source that demonstrates that your premise is incorrect.
You responded thus:
No. You cited a source of random polluted countries, which happen to be profit driven, which is Capitalism.
Then find a source to support your false opinion.
N.B. The sources I used took the top 3 capitalist states and compared their EPI to the 3 least capitalist states.
Now respond only with you "source".
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@Best.Korea
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Your premise was that capitalism causes pollution.
I cited a source that demonstrates that your premise is incorrect.
End of story.
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@Best.Korea
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data from Economic Freedom Index and Worldpopulationreview.org
environmental pollution index composite score for United States, Canada and Ireland is 184.1
environmental pollution index composite score for China, India and Russia is 109.6
Air pollution index composite score for United States, Canada and Ireland is 267.2......for China, India and Russia 207.8
Water pollution index composite score for United States, Canada and Ireland is 279.5......for China, India and Russia 173.9
Land pollution index composite score for United States, Canada and Ireland is 138.4......for China, India and Russia 90.6
This data contradicts and disproves your opinions.
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@Best.Korea
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"Atmospheric carbon dioxide is now 50 percent higher than it was before the Industrial Revolution." ( climate.gov ).
World population is 16 times larger than it was before the Industrial Revolution ( ourworldindata.org )
More people; more pollution.
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@Best.Korea
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in 1700 London's air pollution was 259.74 μg/m³ and population of 0.6 million living in inner London ( or old London )
it peaked in 1894 at about 606 and a population of 4.2 million
in 2016 it was 16.00 μg/m³ and a population of 2.8 million ,
WHY?
Because air pollution controls were put into place to reduce the "human equivalency"
Type of government was irrelevant.
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@Best.Korea
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Thats again, not true, since not all systems produced as much trash per capita as capitalism did. In fact, the very choice to produce plastic, cars, factories, all kinds of chemicals and waste...ect. didnt happen until 300 years ago.
First off, you speak of "per capita". Right there is a reference to the fact that more humans means more impact on the environment.
Then you say "300 years ago". The population today is 1600% higher that it was then. WE could then expect 16 times more impact today, regardless of government types.
Then in 333 you say
If you dont want to define capitalism or point me to what you consider as capitalism, then you also cannot claim that capitalism is good, as without definition, no one knows what you are talking about.
I am NOT the one talking about capitalism.YOU ARE,
YOU DEFINE IT,
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@Best.Korea
Or just to cut the crap, tell me what country you consider most capitalist.
That is not a relevant datum to my argument.
It is however the centerpiece to yours. So...
You need to "just to cut the crap, tell me what country you consider most capitalist."
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@Best.Korea
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Already explained and proved.
The magnitude of the human population is the cause of environmental damage.
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@3RU7AL
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After YOU define "socialism" and "socialist state".
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@HistoryBuff
Here is an equally true statement......" Yes Israel uses shitty tactics. That is bad. Hamas is engaging in a campaign of mass murder with the goal of exterminating or expelling all Israelis . That is genocide. Nothing Israel has or could theoretically do would justify that. Hamas is the far worse offender. "
"It's all in the mind" ( R. Starr ).
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@ebuc
3re7al is still arguing about everything.
The entertainment may continue for some time.
Stay tuned.
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@HistoryBuff
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The report explained the situation.
"Hamas’ use of human shields is therefore likely aimed at minimising their own vulnerabilities by limiting the Israeli Defense Forces’ (IDF) freedom of action.
It is also aimed at gaining diplomatic and public opinion-related leverage, by presenting Israel and the IDF as an aggressor that indiscriminately strikes civilians." ( cited above ).
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@FishChaser
Read ....The United Nations report "The Question of Palestine" https://www.un.org/unispal/history/
Read it, don't just watch the YT video.
Read it and get back to me.
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@HistoryBuff
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"Hamas relies on the Israeli government’s aim to minimise collateral damage, and is also aware of the West‘s sensitivity towards civilian casualties.
Hamas’ use of human shields is therefore likely aimed at minimising their own vulnerabilities by limiting the Israeli Defense Forces’ (IDF) freedom of action.
It is also aimed at gaining diplomatic and public opinion-related leverage, by presenting Israel and the IDF as an aggressor that indiscriminately strikes civilians.
Hamas’ most common uses of human shields include:
Firing rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or near facilities which should be protected according to the Geneva Convention (e.g. schools, hospitals,or mosques).
Locating military or security-related infrastructures such as HQs, bases, armouries, access routes,lathes, or defensive positions within or in proximity to civilian areas. Protecting terrorists’ houses and military facilities, or rescuing terrorists who were besieged or warned by the IDF.
Combating the IDF from or in proximity to residential and commercial areas, including using civilians for intelligence gathering missions.
By engaging in these acts, Hamas employs a win-win scenario: if indeed the IDF uses kinetic power, and the number of civilian causalities surges, Hamas can use that as a weapon in the lawfare it conducts. It would be able to accuse the IDF (and Israel) of committing war crimes, which in turn could result in the imposition of a wide
array of sanctions. On the other hand, if the IDF limits its use of military power in Gaza to avoid collateral damage,Hamas will be less vulnerable to Israeli attacks, and thereby able to protect its assets while continuing to fight." https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
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@3RU7AL
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just tell me what your opinion is based on
It is not opinion...it is fact
See if you can tell the difference.
Maybe if you had better research skills, it would become self evident.
I find your actions laughable and disingenuous.
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@3RU7AL
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"“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana,"
Or , to paraphrase, those who ignore the FACTS OF HISTORY are doomed to repeat them.
a "powerful centralized government" describes nearly every government on earth and even nearly every government in history
It appears that you have no idea of what a powerful centralized government is.
Why don't you list all the governments on earth and rank their governments from most powerful to least powerful.
Then statistically find one SD + -, and then list those more than one SD toward the "most" side.
Then find what only those have in common.
Report back when you are done.
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@3RU7AL
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(IFF) trump said he wanted to ban all muslims BEFORE the policy (THEN) who the fu.ck cares ?
I do. See if you can figure out why?
(IFF) trump said he wanted to ban all muslims AFTER the policy (THEN) who the fu.ck cares ?
I do. See if you can figure out why?
Maybe if you had better research skills, it would become self evident.
I find your actions laughable and disingenuous.
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@3RU7AL
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No.
A powerful centralized government is necessary
Socialist states have a powerful centralized government .
Historically in the REAL WORLD, socialism has IN SOME REAL WORLD INSTANCES, progressed into fascism.
So now after 300 + dialogues, is that clear?
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@3RU7AL
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Because your research skills are sub par.
You then assume things based on limited data.
Was that speech related to the Executive Order Travel Ban?
Did it occur after or before the EO?
You need a higher quality source than YT.
I know this information, and I am not the one who gave the citation.
I find your actions laughable and disingenuous.
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@HistoryBuff
So now the question is about how the counterattack is being conducted?
Israel's goals were:
Release all hostages from Hamas
Remove Hamas government
New elections without a party whose tenet includes the death of Israel.
Tactically Hamas is, and has been, placing its own citizens in danger.
it's like someone punches you in the face, so you go and get your gun and you murder them, and their wife, and their children, and their dog.
That is a bad analogy.
Remove Hamas ; then the wife, children and dog all survive.
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