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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
upon my earthly demise... am i heaping burning coals upon my head? and storing up the wrath of God upon my soul?
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@FLRW
see my last few posts
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@zedvictor4
repeated anecdotes of objective measurements, is more than just flimsy heresay. it's evidence. not even weak evidence.
either my last post is true, or it's not true. ya'll aren't giving reasons why it's not true.
ya'll are just ignoring evidence and being illogical.
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@Stephen
see last post.
2. Realistic Out-of-Body Experiences: Out-of-body experiences (OBEs) are one of the most common elements of NDEs. What NDErs see and hear of earthly events in the out-of-body state is almost always realistic. When the NDEr or others later seek to verify what was observed or heard during the NDE, the OBE observations are almost always confirmed as completely accurate. Even if the OBE observations during the NDE included events far from the physical body, and far from any possible sensory awareness of the NDEr, the OBE observations are still almost always confirmed as completely accurate. This fact alone rules out the possibility that near-death experiences are related to any known brain functioning or sensory awareness. This also refutes the possibility that NDEs are unrealistic fragments of memory from the brain."In a little over 40 percent of my surveys, NDE"rs observed things that were geographically far from their physical body, that were way outside of any possible physical central awareness. Typically, someone who has an NDE with an out-of-body experience comes back and reports what they saw and heard while floating around, it"s about 98 percent accurate in every way. For example, in one account someone who coded in the operating room had an out-of-body experience where their consciousness traveled to the hospital cafeteria where they saw and heard their family and others talking, completely unaware that they had coded. They were absolutely correct in what they saw."
that book cites a literature review, of other science articles that measure this, and out of body experiences are almost always 'accurate or consistent' with reality
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The Nine Lines of Evidence from Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences:
1. Crystal-Clear Consciousness. The level of consciousness and alertness during near-death experiences (NDEs) is usually even greater than that experienced in everyday life even though NDEs generally occur when a person is unconscious or clinically dead. This high level of consciousness while physically unconscious is medically inexplicable. Additionally, the elements in NDEs generally follow the same consistent and logical order in all age groups and around the world, which refutes the possibility that NDEs have any relation to dreams or hallucinations.
2. Realistic Out-of-Body Experiences: Out-of-body experiences (OBEs) are one of the most common elements of NDEs. What NDErs see and hear of earthly events in the out-of-body state is almost always realistic. When the NDEr or others later seek to verify what was observed or heard during the NDE, the OBE observations are almost always confirmed as completely accurate. Even if the OBE observations during the NDE included events far from the physical body, and far from any possible sensory awareness of the NDEr, the OBE observations are still almost always confirmed as completely accurate. This fact alone rules out the possibility that near-death experiences are related to any known brain functioning or sensory awareness. This also refutes the possibility that NDEs are unrealistic fragments of memory from the brain.
3. Heightened Senses. Not only are heightened senses reported by most who have experienced NDEs, normal or supernormal vision has occurred in those with significantly impaired vision, and even legal blindness. Several people who have been totally blind since birth have reported highly visual near-death experiences. This is medically inexplicable.
4. Consciousness During Anesthesia. Many NDEs occur while under general anesthesia- at a time when any conscious experience should be impossible. While some skeptics claim that these NDEs may be the result of too little anesthesia, this ignores the fact that some NDEs result from anesthesia overdose. Additionally, the description of a NDE differs greatly from that of one who experiences 'anesthetic awareness.' The content of NDEs that occur under general anesthesia is essentially indistinguishable from NDEs that did not occur under general anesthesia. This is further strong evidence that NDEs are occurring completely independently from the functioning of the physical brain.
5. Perfect Playback. Life reviews in near-death experiences include real events that previously took place in the lives of those having the experience, even if the events were forgotten or happened before they were old enough to remember.
6. Family Reunions. During a NDE, the people encountered are virtually always deceased, and are usually relatives of the person having the experience- sometimes they are even relatives who died before the NDEr was born. Were the NDE only a product of memory fragments, they would almost certainly include far more living people, including those with whom they had more recently interacted.
7. Children's Experiences. The near-death experiences of children, including very young children who are too young to have developed concepts of death, religion, or near-death experiences, are essentially identical to those of older children and adults. This refutes the possibility that the content of NDEs is produced by preexisting beliefs or cultural conditioning.
8. Worldwide Consistency. Near-death experiences appear remarkably consistent around the world, and across many different religions and cultures. NDEs from non-Western countries are incredibly similar to those that occur in people in Western countries.
9. Aftereffects. It is common for people to experience major life changes after having near-death experiences. These aftereffects are often powerful, lasting, life-enhancing, and the changes generally follow a consistent pattern. As the NDErs themselves almost always believe- near-death experiences are, in a word, real.
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the main reason they are stupid, is that the persons who are most similar will get a split vote. if the green party runs, it spits the vote with dems. if a libertarians runs, it splits with republicans. often, the most popular segment could lose, simply because of a split vote. this split vote thing, is called a 'spoiler effect'. the founding fathers weren't thinking straight when they made our electoral system.
on a related note, our system sucks, cause it's 'plurality voting', even if a politician is unpopular, they can take the primary or general election by getting a plurality that's less than a majority. trump v clinton... both were unpopular, yet they were foisted on the stage by plurality voting
i can relate to wanting options in our elections by third, fourth parties are not the way to do it. research rank choice voting, or approval method voting. those systems fix the problems we have with our system.
plus we do have primaries where there is often lots of choice. it's fair and sensible to only have two candidates if others were fairly evaluated and processed in the election.
all those 'we need third party' advocates dont know what they're arguing. i liked that idea when i was younger, only cause i was stupid and ignorant. these third party advocates seem so low brow and low intelligence
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'race to the bottom' happens because poor countries cant compete. there's effectively an unlimited supply of labor if you count all the people in poor countries, and you can pay them beans to do your bidding if there's no rules against it. this causes the most ruthless businesses to have the upper hand in the market, cause their expenses are the lowest, so governments and businesses try to deregulate safety evironmental regs and drive down wages... all to the point where labor is poorly compensated everywhere and where good politcies are repealed or not enacted.
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@zedvictor4
if people are accurately describing what happens outside of their body... this has meaning and significance, scientifically. the only way to pretend this doesn't indicate something... is to ignore the evidence. i could see trying to say the evidence isn't credible, but you guys aren't making that argument, and it looks like a completely baseless assertion if you did. if out of body experiences are literally being indicated, that gives weight to the idea that there's an afterlife, given these concepts are almost always intricately related.
you guys just do logic leaps, and aren't being scientific. as i keep making painfully obvious when ya'll give replies, ya'll are not arguing coherently or rationally.
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@FLRW
What about the scientific studies that show out of body descriptions that r almost always, when investigated, accurate or consistent with reality?
Sight to the blind?
It's pretty clear you just choose to ignore this stuff
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@Stephen
@zedvictor4
@FLRW
how is the out of body data not considered evidence? there's credible individual anecdotes, such as the pam rynolds case or lots of doctors verifying things that couldn't possibly be known. when studied under scientific conditions... there's a trend that out of body descriptions are almost always accurate, or at least consistent with reality while they were dead. when people guess wildly what happened when they are dead, it's usually inaccurate.
plus the visual experiences in people who are blind.
how is this stuff not evidence? you have to ignore it to claim it's not evidence. or, commit the invincible ignorance fallacy and argue that a consistent trend of anecdotes doesn't equal evidence.
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the bears point, it could be argued that God allowed the bears to attack them... not that he sent the bears to attack them.
but even when God kills people or orders them killed,, in the old testament... it's because of something sinful they or their parents did. we have to accept the premise that sinning or being part of a lineage of sin, is worthy of the death penalty.
even as a christian who loves God with all my heart, i could understand being hesitant about the old testament. but i try to give it the benefit of the doubt, and defer to it unless i can find an obvious error, which i never have. it's all about interpretation, plus looking at sin as worthy of death.
i know there's weird things in the old testament... like saying a deformed penis makes you unworthy of heaven. or saying some foods are unclean, then i guess cause of Jesus the foods are no longer unclean? stuff like this doesn't sound inspired by God, but it's above my pay grade to say for sure.
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@Best.Korea
i reject your reality... and substitute it with my own reality
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@Best.Korea
there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet?
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@zedvictor4
festivus is from Seinfeld. you must not be a Seinfeld devotee... which is very uncool.
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@zedvictor4
happy festivus for the rest of us
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there's also rank method voting, and approval rating method voting. electors throws in a wild card, id rather the election be based on the actual votes, not electors. i haven't taken the time to fully consider this elector method, though.
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@zedvictor4
it's good to point out that everyone is different... but when we're trying to talk in general terms, all we can really do is talk in generalizations.
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the virtue of being self aware is lacking in society, and just in general, general awareness is lacking
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they say happiness is a choice that one makes. they choose to be happy. but they also say relationships are important for happiness. what if you dont have healthy relationships? then you can only fake it till you make it... try to be happy until you have relationships. i think the bottom line is that we can try to maximize our happiness with the choices we make, but there are objective things necessary for maximal happiness.
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@Tradesecret
Of course. It's humour. And so as far as it remains for those who like this type of humour, great. I do note the irony though, that if someone mocked Charles Darwin and evolution in this same fashion, despite its humour, the responses would be scornful.
good point. i'll never have enough faith to be an atheist.
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im super theist... but i love carlin's bit on anti god and religion
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When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time!But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say “this guy”, because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he’s at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn’t give a shit. Doesn’t give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn’t give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can’t see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I’m big on that. If I can see something, I don’t know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we’re not setting people on fire simply because they don’t agree with us.Sun worship is fairly simple. There’s no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don’t have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I’m unworthy. Doesn’t tell me I’m a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn’t said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don’t pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn’t presume on our friendship. It’s not polite.I’ve often thought people treat God rather rudely, don’t you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It’s not nice. And it’s no way to treat a friend.But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you’d really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you’d have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn’t in God’s Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn’t it seem a little arrogant? It’s a Divine Plan. What’s the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?And here’s something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren’t answered. What do you say? “Well, it’s God’s will.” “Thy Will Be Done.” Fine, but if it’s God’s will, and He’s going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn’t you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It’s all very confusing.So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don’t pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he’s a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn’t fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.So I’ve been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don’t. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit’s foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat’s testicles, it’s all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that’s a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I’m sure you’ll like that. Then there’s Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn’t care for, by the way. And finally, I’ve always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.” That’s because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.In fact, I’m gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody’s okay? All right, tell you what, I’ll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I’ve got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I’m blind. I’m blind, oh, now I’m okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!
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im super theist... but i love carlin's bit on anti god and religion
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When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time!But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say “this guy”, because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he’s at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn’t give a shit. Doesn’t give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn’t give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can’t see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I’m big on that. If I can see something, I don’t know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we’re not setting people on fire simply because they don’t agree with us.Sun worship is fairly simple. There’s no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don’t have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I’m unworthy. Doesn’t tell me I’m a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn’t said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don’t pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn’t presume on our friendship. It’s not polite.I’ve often thought people treat God rather rudely, don’t you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It’s not nice. And it’s no way to treat a friend.But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you’d really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you’d have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn’t in God’s Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn’t it seem a little arrogant? It’s a Divine Plan. What’s the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?And here’s something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren’t answered. What do you say? “Well, it’s God’s will.” “Thy Will Be Done.” Fine, but if it’s God’s will, and He’s going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn’t you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It’s all very confusing.So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don’t pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he’s a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn’t fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.So I’ve been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don’t. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit’s foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat’s testicles, it’s all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that’s a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I’m sure you’ll like that. Then there’s Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn’t care for, by the way. And finally, I’ve always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.” That’s because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.In fact, I’m gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody’s okay? All right, tell you what, I’ll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I’ve got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I’m blind. I’m blind, oh, now I’m okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!
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@TheUnderdog
i can see how it's ridiculous to treat illegal immigrants who are otherwise law abiding, worse than usa citizen murderers... except, it's fair to remember that those murderers are US citizens and there are rights that we say should go along with being a US citizen. if anything though, if we wanna be more consistent, it shouldn't be treating illegal immigrnts better... it should be treating murderers worse.
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@FLRW
yes i see a big wall of text in that link, and the author has a very hard time getting to the point. care to summarize his main arguments?
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that is a link describing the paranormal research going on at the university of virginia. it focuses on the credibility of the researchers, and the research methods involved. of course, this provides evidence for reincarnation... but skeptics dont like evidence. they prefer to ignore said evidence and adhere to a materialistic view of the world, simply because that's their existing world view.
a credible doctor slash exorcist... just some more supernatural stuff that looks credible
another interesting figure in the field of exorcisms
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@Best.Korea
what's with the gay lookin kitten profile pic?
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@Best.Korea
north korea, is the best korea... amiright??
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
at least Satan still loves me, and wants to be my friend... amiright??
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@HistoryBuff
price fixing to some extent, and providing supply for others.
he should regulate healthcare costs. he should regulate student payments to colleges. he should encourage and bully more housing development and boarding houses where there is a lack of supply. he should expand food stamp access to more low income people. he should increase the minimum wage. he should pass laws that ban union busting. i dunno, there's all kinds of small things he could do in all kinds of sectors to reduce costs.
i realize many of my ideas he doesn't have the power to do, but he also doesn't talk about these ideas in a competent manner.
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
so i take it that you dont want to be my BFF... best friend forever?
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
In the afterlife, am I going to be brutally tortured for all eternity?
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i mean, compared to most politicians, he's good. and, i had approved of his performance because he accomplished a lot of stuff.
but, his main critique is true... things are too expensive, and he's not doing enough to change that. there's all kinds of ways to make life cheaper for americans, that he doesn't explicitly advocate for. literally, all kinds of ideas. at best, like all politicians, he does things that would make the establishment happy and his party. he does move the ball, but only if it's okay with the establishment/party.
of course, i can't think of literally any politicians who have very many good ideas to make life more affordable. and the little they do have for ideas, are either not good ideas to begin with, or again are only such that they appease the establishment/party.
at the rate we're goin... i'll probably never truly approve of any politician's performance, ever again.
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
"Waiting for an answer, or will you RUN AWAY AGAIN from Jesus' true words in front of the membership like you've done before MANY TIMES?!"
my choice, is that i will RUN AWAY AGAIN from Jesus' true words in front of membership, like i've done before MANY TIMES.
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Any zombie game with real lookin zombies would be fun
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Maybe Hitler just believed in survival at all costs? Which is understandable. Of course, there's more to it than that, of which made Hitler so detestable
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@Best.Korea
if you wanna split hairs... the bible has different standards for the same rule. what do ya think?
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@Best.Korea
it is fair to wonder how to implement something like the Golden rule, but the gist of it is simple. you shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater... dont throw out one of the most profound teachings in history, just because you dont know how to implement it. maybe you are just seeking to understand the teaching, and not attack it, but im just throwin this post out there.
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@FLRW
"I guess they thought, God loves you but only if you are a rich Christian."
which is a fair conclusion to come to.... amiright??
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i know we've had this debate here before... but it's fair to look at the universe, and based on its situation, conclude that something other than the universe may have or even probably did cause it. i know from there it'd still be a stretch to get into God arguments, but to argue that the universe has a cause other than itself, is fair.
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@Sidewalker
The problem with these “scientific” first cause analyses is that in the end we are just conjuring with mathematics here, when nature doesn’t exist yet, principles can’t exist yet either, if “nothing” exists then there are no states and no principles of laws and it’s impossible to say what might come into existence or how it might occur. An initial state of “nothing” falls completely outside of the four-dimensional frame of reference of science. All we can do is postulate a transcendent reality from which our reality causally manifested, but it would necessarily fall outside of the frame of reference of the calculations being done, we can’t really apply the principles of this reality to a reality that transcends all of the principles that these calculations are built on.Big Bang Cosmology states that time and space came into existence with the Big Bang, therefore there is not aspatial or temporal framework for any mathematical process to occur in, withoutspace or time, there simply can't be any process. By definition, it must be an uncaused event, those who postulate the Universe resulted from a quantum fluctuation aren't recognizing that there was no space for a quantum fluctuation to occur in, and there was no time in which the quantumfluctuation could occur.
well stated
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@Best.Korea
i think you are reading too much into the bible verses that say to respect the government. you are construing your own meaning, after all, from the verses. id construe it as... 'respect the government and government authorities'. the bible doesn't need to delineate all the ins and outs of how to respond to the government in all situations. as a virtue, stating that we should respect the government is enough for a christian who is striving to live a holy life. the bible is meant to be mostly theological, not political.
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I think an interesting argument is whether the animal consents to it. For example. The animal fucking you instead of you fucking the animal
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Also them simply arguing that it might be possible that the universe is eternal isn't very meaningful than if they provided hard science that proved it or at least made it more likely than not. All they have is speculation
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@FLRW
It would help if you actually stated their argument, instead of simply stating that they made an argument
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Not that I watch bestiality porn, but I did happen to see a video of dog fuckin a woman, doggy style, of course
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i was in a frat in college... it was the Greek frat, tappa kegga drinka
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do cows ever fuck pigs? is interspecies sex outside of humans even a thing? i never hear of it. there's enough data that gay animals exist... but interspecies sex?
"A male snow monkey has been observed attempting to have sex with female sika deer on Japan's Yakushima Island, in an unusual example of interspecies mating behaviour. It is only the second recorded example of sexual relations between two distantly related species."
looks like it's very rare. primates including humans must be horny fucks.
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@Best.Korea
sounds like something a chump would say
(JK)
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You should research the concept you are studying, history etc
I saw this video and reminded me of u
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