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@ILikePie5
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Airmax1227 - inactivity and random character claim. Don’t really like the latter since it was unnecessary (weakest scum read however do to soft claim)
The inactivity claim is valid (though it's certainly consistent with my playstyle for DP1 as town), though the character claim was not random. Oromagi vtl'd me for a claim (post #85), and so I claimed. It also wasn't unnecessary. DP1 tends to manifest somewhat randomly in terms of who gets pressured, and therefore claims, but it is important that we get some information. At the point I claimed, we had only three character claims, and I felt another character claim could only benefit town without being harmful at all (and now we have a claimed character pool that gives us some analysis)... I specifically did not role claim, as that would have been unnecessary.
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@drafterman
I have a hunch it's pro-Mike/anti-Mike meaning characters like AJ and Toby are Scum claims. SA's flip will feed into that.
Naturally I'm inclined to disagree, but I do appreciate the suggestion for mafia/town theme alignment. I'm not sure how pro and anti Mike could ultimately be justified either though... Jim comes off as the shows realist most of the time, and that puts him at odds with Mike a lot. This could be viewed as anti-Mike, and the same could be said for at least Pam, Angela and Oscar. You may mean characters that Mike is pro/anti towards and then certainly AJ and Toby would be scum. However, as I am town, I'm certain this isn't the theme, since Mike hates Toby more than anyone else... I'd say Charles Minor would be a likely third mafia in that dynamic, but I digress. Nonetheless any flip should provide useful information.
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We don't have any indication yet of character affiliation, but of the 5 character claims, 4 are major characters (Dwight, Jim, Toby, Ryan) with the only claim of AJ being obscure. Unless this was an avoidance of a power role character claim like Michael, this comes off as scummy. Even if it was motivated to avoid a power role assumption, the LAL discussion could be prudent in this case too.
The Dwight-Cop role makes sense, and in a game without role justifications, I can easily justify it myself. The character claim seems legitimate since it would be an easy CC, and cop fits the character well. I have no idea what PressF is thinking in claiming a power role on DP1, but I'm not sure if a lot of things in this game are a result of noob play, weird gambits, new meta, and legitimate quality play. I can more easily understand how town make this move under any circumstance, than if it were mafia, so while I'm not sure what PressF is doing, I'm inclined to believe he is town.
I read the Speed (eventual) Non-CC as pro town. Speed provided the town with his reaction to give some indication, without providing too much information. We'll see how this plays out since I don't want to over analyze it here, but I view that type of behavior as townish.
Still catching up on the dp....
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Claims
12. A-R-O-S-E - Ryan
8. Greyparrot - Jim Halpert - Vanilla
1. SirAnonymous - A.J. - Vanilla
4. PressF - Dwight Schrute - Cop
11. Airmax1227 - Toby Flenderson
Unclaimed
2. iLikePie5
3. drafterman
5. Supa
6. Oromagi
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace
10. WaterPhoenix
13. Wylted
UVC
Sir - 3/7 - Supa, oro, AROSE
Supa - 1/7 - grey
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@Lunatic
The mod said this "Roles may or may not be related to characters."I am sure there is some thematic element, but that qoute makes me not wanna look to into it. Also the type of show this is, seems like it would be pretty hard to say which character is a power role or not given that all characters are wierdo non powerful humans in an office setting.
Some could be pretty random, but Dwight as cop and my character's role make sense, so I'm inclined to believe there is some logical justification - even if it isn't explicitly explained in role PMs. The power role dynamic should also be fairly logical regardless of the setting (like Michael, Jan, California etc)
Also warren seems the type of mod who cares about balance more than thematic relevancy. I had to do the same in my Dark Crystal game. Some characters who arguably deserved more of a power role, "Deet" for example, were vanillas for the sake of balance. However I still had some characters with thematic roles. Character claims will still be useful for CC's, etc. But I wouldn't focus to hard on role justifications.
This is a valid point and I don't know Warren's mod style, so it is probably best not to get too hung up on this... Still, overtly obscure character claims like Sir's make me nervous....
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@oromagi
It's good to be playing in another mafia game after so long...
My character is Toby Flenderson... I'm not gona role claim since it wouldn't be prudent at this juncture... I win with the town
Reading through the DP there isn't a whole lot of behavior that sticks out to me as particularly scummy or townish, aside from the "A.J." claim from SirAnonymous. The obscurity red flag is worth keeping in mind as we get more character claims.
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@coal
You may not have heard yet, and I don't know if there is an appropriate way or place to let you know... but I think you would want to know...
I actually heard about this a couple days ago... I was shocked and went through that entire day of constantly being drawn back into thinking about it in depth. It's actually the reason I finally decided to make an account here. A year ago my girlfriend made an account here since she felt engaging in another forum like this would be good for me for whatever reason, but I declined. When I heard about Blade I felt that it would be nice to get back in touch with old friends since you really never know when you'll lose that opportunity. So here I am... It's good to see ya again man, its been awhile.
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@Imabench
Airmax1227: "Hey guys"My ass thats been temp banned i think 8 times before i lost count: "Oh SHIT"jk welcome!
Haha good to see ya again Bench
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Alright I think I've got the gist of the Dart HoF voting drama stuff... I can fill in the missing pieces on my own since I certainly experienced plenty of this stuff on DDO... good times
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@ResurgetExFavilla
It was quite the tragic affair, really. Overwhelmed by filial love, a certain user campaigned to get RM inducted into the Hall of Fame, while another campaigned to have the efforts of young Supadudz recognized. Doing so was forbidden, however, and both users were banned. There was also a travesty involving one of the site's oldest African American users being banned under suspicious circumstances
Ah ok, so DDO style voting drama and shenanigans... not too hard to believe, gotcha
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Can someone give me the gist of RM's theory with some context behind it? It sounds like something recently happened with voting and such (perhaps I played a role in manipulating this vote?), but at this point I have to admit I'm just really confused
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@blamonkey
Hello! Nice to see you back.
Thanks, it's good to see ya
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@RationalMadman
I'm honestly not trying to make you look dumb, I believe your theory is very interesting and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter (Or whatever the kids call it these days, is it twitter?).You think you are making me look dumb, but you are only accentuating my brilliance.
In fact, take note that Thett3 and REF both voted Mike and didn't get banned. Wylted did not. Banned. Spacetime did not. Banned. Hammer clearly betrayed and only voted Supa... 30 days banned.
I'm a bit out of my element here since I'm not sure what we are talking about... Did a guy named Hammer really get ban hammered?
Sometimes patterns are more telling than anything else.
I happen to agree, I'm just not sure what the pattern here is.
I voted Mike by overturning from Ramshutu, Thett perhaps rewards me with a vote. Virtuoso tries to overturn it to Supa, they ounish him by making it so Supa is the threat to his victory and Mike is safe. Virruoso is blackmailed to expose the Discord Coordination of votes in order to defend his title. Supadudz was a pawn to them. I was a shockingly powerful contender but one Max learned to work around instwad of directly against. I know it now and I played it very well. Fuck yes.
Seriously, I have no idea what we are talking about at this point, so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here...
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@RationalMadman
Airmax or YYW were my prime suspects for who Mike really is, perhaps it was a triple layered conspiracy where they planned to get Debateart.com to win. Time will tell.Do not underestimate Airmax, he is one of the most intelligent and cunning strategists of DDO history.
This thread was made exactly a year ago today:
Is that just a coincidence that I joined the site exactly a year later from the theory... perhaps, or perhaps not... perhaps we shall never know the answers to these mysteries
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@A-R-O-S-E
How'd you find your way here?I................ was still subbed to Supa's youtube and he got me back in
I've been aware of this site since the DDO exodus... I wanted to take a break from all things DDO for awhile but today decided to finally make an account here... and so here I am
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@RationalMadman
"Until this happened, Coal's claim of a DDO Elite being involved was a joke. Now we must open the horizon of what really was behind the election. YYW was always the alpha of the DDO Elite."
I like the cut of your jib fella
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@David
I don't know how much debating I'm gona do around here, I'm mostly just here to catch up with people and play a little mafia... maybe cause some trouble while I'm around to give you and Bsh something to do :P
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@David
very cool, I know exactly who you are now... good to see ya again, I hope all is well with you
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@bsh1
I created the account just before I posted the thread so I haven't played around with any of the account features yet... but perhaps the axolotl will return
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@PressF4Respect
yeah something very familiar about that guy, but I'd have to jog my memory a bit to recall why the name is significant
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@David
thanks... I was actually just discussing with another former DDO member who you are... mind settling that argument for us...? what was your DDO name?
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@Vader
"if this is real airmax he would talk smack how bad Bears are :)"
Nah ,Packers are good enough that I don't need to talk smack about the Bears right now... Arod just put up a perfect Qb rating in the last game (even without Devante Adams) and the Packers are rolling...
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@PressF4Respect
"Is our good friend backwardseden still kickin?"
Isn't that some guy I banned from DDO?
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@Vader
I am in fact the real Airmax... I even messaged Bsh right away after I created an account (So I wouldn't get banned right away) since I figured an imposter account was likely too... I recall the fake account and chatted with Bsh about it at the time by confirming that the guy wasn't me... this guy (me) happens to be me though... so I am the actual Airmax this time... you can quiz me on DDO or anything else I'd know if you feel so inclined
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@PressF4Respect
Good to hear you are fine... I think we all know how DDO is doing, and otherwise a quick glance at it should reveal those answers
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So some of you might remember me from DDO... It's been awhile since I've talked with many of my old friends over there and since now many of you are over here, I figured I'd make an account and say hi... So how you all doin?
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