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@Best.Korea
there is no way you would prefer to be murdered instead of having some pedophile suck your dick when you are 3, especially if that pedophile is woman.
Correct, I would rather get raped than murdered. I believe a murderer is worse than a rapist. A lot of men and virtually all women disagree with that.
But yeah; circumsision of minors unless medical reason should be tried as rape and we need law enforcement officers at the churches to prevent genital multilation of kids.
You are trying to convince a population of an issue that 99% of the US population is strongly against; it doesn't matter how convincing your arguments are; you are not convincing the mob.
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@Barney
The poll expired. You should lock this thread.
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@Best.Korea
You didn't finish reading the rest of the sentence. Teachers are better than murderers.
But 90% or so of society deems pedophiles worse than murderers, so might makes right.
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@Amber
This is incorrect. A fetus has the best chance of surviving outside of the womb at the moment of birth. 22-24 weeks is arbitrary.Wrong.
A 22 week old fetus has maybe an 80% chance of surviving outside the womb; a newborn baby has a 100% chance.
It's also precisely why abortions are heavily restricted at and after this timeframe.
But if one consistently with abortion believed in, "my body, my choice", then they would favor legal abortion until the moment of birth (even if they personally would never get a late term abortion).
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@3RU7AL
You can be anti-inflation while also wanting to tax the globalists more. They aren't mutually exclusive.
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@FLRW
That is highly unlikely and improvable.
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@IlDiavolo
And I think you're wrong when you say a person can't support a foreign politician.
That's not my position; I said it's weird to strongly support or oppose a foreign politician. I support legalizing weird. I live in the US; it would be like if I had strong opinions on the prime minister of the UK. I have opinions on Macron, but I wouldn't go so far as to make a video trashing the leader of a nation I don't even live in. I don't obsess about Macron.
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@Best.Korea
I realize that; but I disagree with the government. The government takes better care of murderers than they do to students and teachers in terms of spending per person; murderers are obviously worse. You can legally refuse to hire someone for smoking weed, but not if they are a felon. Our government makes no sense.
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@FLRW
Yes; you are smart. So is Trump.
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@FLRW
Donald Trump scored a 73 on an IQ test administered to him while in high school at New York Military Academy.
I hate Trump, but I doubt this; the lowest IQ a POTUS ever had was 120; you don't get into power by being dumber than average as managing a political campaign (especially a POTUS campaign) requires a lot of intelligence.
‘Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had,’” DiPrima wrote. “Dr. Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity but long before he was considered a political figure. Dr. Kelley often referred to Trump’s arrogance when he told of this — that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.”
You are old as Trump. You were probably very different in college than you are now. The same can plausibly be true for Trump.
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@Best.Korea
I don't want to pay for your welfare. My tax money matters more to me than your pedophille life.
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@FLRW
In order for him to get a law degree, he would have to go to college. Colleges don't admit pedophilles.
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@Best.Korea
Then transition. Like, what do you want me to tell you?
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Donald trump put the country before his own ambitions.
How? Your message sounds goodd like a fairy tale, but it doesn't make it true.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
No doubt Trump is crying in his soup tonight. How will he attack a black female candidate?
Easy; Cadence Owens.
Although I would vote Harris over Trump, I do not give a rat's ass if she's a black woman. I'm voting for her because Jan 6 is unforgivable to me. I don't like it when the left makes things identitarian. Whether or not Kamala Harris is a Blasian woman (to me and the high IQ) has no impact on whether or not she should be POTUS; if the election was Harris vs DeSantis, I would still vote for Harris, but only because DeSantis did some hypocritical things. If the election was Harris vs Rand Paul, I'd vote for Rand Paul because I don't agree with funding foreign wars.
Harris being a blasian woman is irrelevant.
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@Amber
Why that period of gestation? It's the best probability of survival outside of the womb for the fetus that's achieved fetal viability.
This is incorrect. A fetus has the best chance of surviving outside of the womb at the moment of birth. 22-24 weeks is arbitrary.
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Their summer camp was this alphabet designed camp.
Today, when people go camping, they sleep in cabins; back in my day; we slept in tents, and sometimes, on the ground.
They do art and crafts, my generation rode dirt bikes, swam for 1600 meters at 6 AM, I biked from my house to summer camp for a merit badge (85 km) in 4 hours, if I got lost, then I was screwed. They claim racial diversity is a strength; but my type of diversity is the following representation:
- An axe
- A pocketknife
- A water bottle, to deal with the hot summer in late July. We didn't drink Lattes from Starbucks, but liters of god's energy drink; water.
- An SPL
- A bow and arrow
- A rifle
Their shots were COVID shots; our shots came out of the barrel of a shot gun.
They find their way around the city; we found our way around the woods with nothing but a map and a compass. We had to be patient; gen alpha doesn't have to be.
They collaborate; we compete.
There is a lot that you go through when you are an old school eagle scout.
Kids these days are too soft; they need to go to bootcamp; any man that cannot do 500 pushups in 24 hours is week. I prefer Kamala over Trump, but I'm not like these sissy entitled Manhattan brats that claim transwomen are women but can't define what a woman is; I just hate Jan 6.
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@JoeBob
He only endorsed her to get the black community to vote for him I feel like
- I think Biden's main reason was because Kamala was his VP.
- Lets say that Trump picked a VP Candidate from Pennsylvania because it's a battleground state and he wants to win Pennsylvania. Is Biden being bigoted towards residents from outside the state? No. Trump would be pandering to Pennsylvania voters by having Oz or someone like that be his VP. He pandered to religious voters when he picked Mike Pence as his VP (since Trump is not very religious). Trump even picked Supreme Court judges solely because they were female. Not a single big MAGA voice criticized Trump for identity politics. Cadence Owens is a DEI hire from the Daily wire; you think if Owens was white that she would be where she is? No. Me being angry Biden pandering to black voters would be like me being angry at Trump, Ben Shapiro, and Glenn Youngkin because they all pandered to non-whites or women.
I don't have an issue with anyone pandering because there are low IQ people in this nation who will only vote for someone because of their TRSG characteristic, so it's smart for a politician to try and reach out to those low IQ people.
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But I believe your mind won't be changed because you love Trump solely because of his alpha vibes.
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@Owen_T
Most pro life men: We need to ban abortion because a zygote is a human being and the permanent homicide is more serious than 9 months of potential female discomfort.
Me: Are you willing to get a vasectomy to prevent both the 9 months of unwanted pregnancy and fetal homicide? It's only a few days of pain for you and pre vasectomy sperm can be stored in a hospital freezer whenever you plan to have kids with a woman that consents. The failure rate is no higher than conventional pregnancy. Are you willing to get a vasectomy to prevent both the unwanted pregnancy and evil and the fetal homicide evil?
Most pro life men: Hell No! My body, my choice (but only for me, not for women).
A man being personally pro life politically pro choice is not a man not okay with him personally not being alright with his girlfriend getting an abortion but lets others do their own thing. A man being personally pro life politically pro choice is the man being willing to get a vasectomy before he has sex so he does what he plausibly can to prevent unplanned pregnancy (1/5 men that use condoms produce an unplanned pregnancy at some point).
By this definition, I'm personally pro life, politically pro choice. Most men are not even personally pro life (but a lot of them are politically pro life). Being personally pro choice and politically pro life is hypocrisy, and I don't respect hypocrites.
Andrew Tate tells men to be more masculine and to do pushups, I think, "facts, bro". Christain Walker doing the same thing; it's like; bro! Lead by example.
I am pro choice because I don't like affiliating with hypocrites on an issue. I'm personally pro life solely because I'm willing to get a vasectomy before I have sex.
I can't tell if you are a man or a woman, but if you are a woman, then make sure your boyfriend gets a vasectomy before you have sex with him. If he is willing to expose you to 9 months of potential pregnancy pain from sex but he is unwilling to get a few days of vasectomy pain because, "his body, his choice", then he doesn't respect you as a person; he only sees you as a sex object, and you should break up with him.
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@IlDiavolo
The video isn't Trump; it's a strong Trump supporter (who doesn't even live in the US, so it would be like if I made a very strong pro or anti Macron argument). it's weird to broadcast opinions about leaders of foreign coutnries.
Trump's bullet actually caused him to be less popular in the polls relative to Biden.
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My main reason is Jan 6 is unforgivable; but Trump's mind isn't even mentally there. He belongs in a nursing home.
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You are a military isolationist because the military costs a lot of money. Trump increased the military budget when he was POTUS. Harris was never officially POTUS; and if you believe she was controlling Biden, then increasing the military budget is unfortunately a bipartisan thing.
If it's a big enough issue for you, then you can vote for RFK and I respect that. But a vote for Trump is a vote for more bureaucratic waste on the military.
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Because of this, I'm voting for Harris in 2024 and will change my profile picture shortly.
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@zedvictor4
Perhaps you act similar to your grandmother.Generational data transfer as it were.
I've seen women grouchtches at a bank acting similar to how I do and they are old.
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@FLRW
If he made that about the 2024 POTUS, then fair. But as time goes by, eventually you will have 2 incompetent people running for office, one is Mr. Jan 6 and the other is arrogant enough to think he has mental stamina to beat Trump.
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@wylted
This is bullshit and untrue. You keep repeating this but studies show leftists to be more sociopathic. They don't reduce unwanted pain for do they desire it. They are literally a suicidal death cult
Didn't you challange Roosevelt to an IQ test and the loser would have to commit suicide?
So many of your accusations are just confessions.
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If airforce people are so smart, then maybe we should utilize their intelligence here at home instead of sending their intelligence to die in foreign wars (whether Israel, Ukraine, it doesn't matter).
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Roosevelt is smart enough to not gamble their own life on the question, and ultimetly, your odds of having a higher IQ than Roosevelt is 50%; you probably have a triple digit IQ, but so does Roosevelt as do all frequent users on this site.
Maybe lower the stakes; whoever has the lower IQ out of you and Roosevent has to venmo $5 or something like that to the winner.
And how would you make your IQ publicly testable. I can say my IQ is 164; there is no way to prove I'm wrong. You can then say your IQ is 172; again; no way of proving you are wrong even if you would be (majority chance).
Like, I'm publicly willing to state my own IQ under the condition that there are no stakes; I don't get anything if I win; I don't sacrifice anything if I lose.
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Roosevelt is smart enough to not gamble their own life on the question, and ultimetly, your odds of having a higher IQ than Roosevelt is 50%; you probably have a triple digit IQ, but so does Roosevelt as do all frequent users on this site.
Maybe lower the stakes; whoever has the lower IQ out of you and Roosevent has to venmo $5 or something like that to the winner.
And how would you make your IQ publicly testable. I can say my IQ is 164; there is no way to prove I'm wrong. You can then say your IQ is 172; again; no way of proving you are wrong even if you would be (majority chance).
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@zedvictor4
TV shows; plus I have a grandmother who acts similar to me and I notice so many elderly women act similar to young dudes.
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That's not what the poll said.
The quote:
Latest update available so farSO eat it. Now vote so we can ban hate speech against Trump
Hate speech is free speech.
This is coming from a guy who challenged me to an IQ contest and the loser had to commit suicide.You are a typical MAGA MORON hypocrite. Absolutely clueless
Anyone who makes a bet like this does not have a high IQ. If you turn out to have an IQ lower than Roosevelt, then you would have to commit suicide (about 50% chance). Anyone who accepts the bet does not have a high IQ either.
I believe my IQ is higher than yours Wylted; but I'm smart enough to not bet my life on that claim because if I lose, then I have to commit suicide. Even if I win, then you would have to commit suicide and then I get prosecuted by the state for encouraging suicide (because I really want people to honor their bets [which is why I don't make any] ).
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@wylted
His laws to attack free speech in certain. Ways also offend me.
Bruh; you literally made a poll trying to kick me off of this website because I said something you personally found extremely repulsive. You don't get to grandstand on free speech until you regret the poll you made.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That is not a way for the world to make progress
You live in Massachusetts. Lets say you meet Daniel Tilt, who also lives in Massachusetts. You hate Donald Trump; Daniel Tilt Loves Donald Trump. You argue for dozens of hours, you spend so much energy that can be dedicated to other things; but at the end of all of it, you convince Daniel Tilt to become left wing enough to vote against Trump.
Did you really change anything? No. Massachusetts is going to vote for Biden whether or not you actually put in the effort to try and change Daniel Tilt's mind.
It's why honestly, I probably won't respond to your gun control posts; it's not that you are inheritely that rude to me, but politics is tiring and I would rather be doing other things with my energy and it gets too tiring. In the rare case that I convince you of my gun control position (or vice versa), it won't change much; roughly the same proportion of the US population will still want AR 15s banned.
There almost certainly will never be a Trump supporter you meet on this website that is genuinely willing to have their mind changed on Trump because of you. This isn't that you are bad at arguing; but to them; Trump is a god that will always be right. When I entered this website, I was under the illusion that I was willing to have my mind changed. I assumed everyone thought very similar to me. Then as I got older; I didn't agree with things like an AR 15 ban; but I can understand why someone would; they have in their brains very high sensitivity to pain (which televised mass shootings produce a lot of) and I just don't have this high sensitivity to pain. I won't be able to get rid of your high sensitivity to pain and you won't be able to get rid of my low sensitivity to pain, both of which are in our brains. People like you would make a very good therapist to people with mental illness (especially a trans child); I would suck at that job. Some child comes into your office and says they are trans and they need help dealing with transphobia; you would try and genuinely help them by forming social clubs; I would tell them to grow a thick skin. People like me would be willing to work long and hard hours at a company; people like you wouldn't be willing to do that. I deal with a 10 hour shift at a job; I can physically deal with that; you might be crying on the ground from all the hard work; it's internalized in me that I can deal with the pain since I know it's only temporary.
You need high sensitivity liberals and low sensitivity libertarians just like you need people inclined to math, people inclined to trades, people inclined to communicate, people inclined to teach, people inclined to be cops, firefighters, construction workers.
A generic state may have 55% of their vote going towards one party; a generic industry may have 80% of their vote going towards one party. Different jobs require different brains; and different brains produce different ideologies. We need the 1st and 2nd, therefore the 3rd must be at least tolerated in the name of diversity (which I would assume you believe is a strength).
That is not my objective. You can’t change morons. My goal is for them to understand they are morons and they can never say nobody told them they were wack jobs for believing what they believe.
If you believe that liking Trump = moron, then fine; that's what you believe. The only way they would agree with this statement is if they renounce their former support for Trump and therefore stop being morons. A Trump supporter isn't going to believe being a Trump supporter makes you a moron.
In order for them to understand being morons; they have to change being morons and not be morons anymore.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
What do you get out of talking bad about Trump?By talking bad do you mean stating obvious facts?
Yea; what do you get out of doing it? A human is a moron if they think the earth is flat; but why would you take joy in trying to prove to them the earth is spherical? I would just let them believe their delusions.
hate Trump and I'm not voting for him, but what is your goal by talking about how bad Trump is?So the MAGA MORONS understand they are morons
We agree on this, but MAGA people (especially the ones on DART) won't ever believe they are morons; they like Trump because of his vibes. Trying to convince them to abandon Trump is like trying to convince me to stop liking Metallica (I don't know if I would vote for them if they ran for POTUS, but I just like their music). Now, I'm smart enough to be able to separate Trump's policies from his vibes; so I view Trump as entertaining; but I wouldn't vote for him. But Trump's supporters will plausibly never have the intelligence to separate Trump's vibes from his policy; so you trying to do that is unfortunately, pointless.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Well that’s not how democracy works
Democracy works by people voting. If Trump wins in 2024, then even though gun control is a popular issue, it's not popular enough to get Trump to lose. Lets say you have 8 people, you are ordering a pizza for everyone and are deciding whether or not garlic should go on the pizza. Since we live in a society, you can't customize the pizza where the people with garlic can have garlic and vice versa; it has to be one size fits all. It would be nice if you could; but whatever politician or pizza we have is going to be for everyone in your party. Everyone must eat the Pizza just like how if Biden wins, then everyone (should) accept Biden as their POTUS.
The question: Should there be garlic on the pizza? 7 people vote yes, one person votes no, and the one person who votes no is allergic to garlic; like, they get extremely sick if they eat it. In a democratic election; there would be garlic on the pizza; the ignorant majority enjoys their garlic and the person allergic to it gets extremely sick. But obviously garlic should not go on that pizza.
Now, had the 7 people known one of the voters was allergic to garlic, then I imagine all of them would have switched their vote. But they are ignorant of the concerns of the person allergic to garlic, so they accidentally cause massive suffering to the person with the allergy. This is why minority rights are important (whether ethnic or ideological).
But with the gun control, I imagine out of the US population that votes for gun control, probably 75% are pretty ignorant on how little gun control talking points make sense. I could get into a whole essay on it, and if we were in person, I'd probably talk about why AR 15s should be legal; but so much gets lost with social media.
I think though the support for banning AR 15s used to be a lot higher and as more and more people found out about that one person allergic to garlic, they have switched their vote over time.
That is a poor analogy and it’s untrue.
Americans’ Complex Views on Gender Identity and Transgender Issues | Pew Research Center says 60% of the US population believes whether a person is a man/woman is determined by sex at birth and can't be changed.
But why is the analogy poor?
Did you know Reagan was the last president to offer amnesty to undocumented immigrants in the country?
Yes, and he should get credit.
Name a Libertarian you admire
Dan Bherman. Some things he says I don't agree with, but I like his style. Austin Petersen is high up on the list.
It’s ok to have opinions but adult citizens should have well thought out opinions on important issues. That’s the only way we can keep our Republic
I try and have my opinions be well thought out, but that means sometimes I won't agree with what you say.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Exactly. So what you’re saying is the current system needs reform. That’s not what Republicans are saying.
I want reform, but I have to be smart about it and can't just throw everything against the wall and hope it sticks.
The background check system should be a background check system where the Nevada shooter did not get a gun and where there was very little collateral damage to prevent the shooter from getting a gun (collateral damage being defined as legally preventing person A from getting a gun if person A will never commit murder with it). If hypothetically there was a background check system where the Nevada shooter (53 killed I think, although I'm not sure) prevented 100 million harmless people from getting guns, then I would be against it because I value 100 million people's active right to get a gun over 53 lives of strangers. This is defined as a 100 million:53 ratio. I am against a 100 million:53 ratio. But if the ratio is 1000:53, then I'm on board.
My ideal ratio is between 1000:53 and 100 million:53. If the life of a human stranger is deemed to be priceless, then that leads to some very scary places (like the state can force you to adopt as many starving children as you can afford if it saves at least one child's life (which is true) and human life has infinite value (which is false; and this is why we should not be forced to adopt children if we can afford too)).
I don't even believe my ratio is linear; I am more comfortable with taking guns away from 10000 people to save 1 life than I am with disarming 100 million people to save 10,000 lives.
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They believe abortion is 1st degree murder. But they also say, "leave it up to the states".
If you believe something is 1st degree murder and should be tried as such, then you would believe both of the following:
- There should be a nationwide abortion ban at conception.
- The penalty for killing a zygote should be the same as 1st degree murder (usually life imprisonment). They say, "We only want to go after the doctors who perform abortions", but then doctors won't perform abortions, meaning the woman who wants the abortion performs it on herself (making the penalty for women who self perform their own abortions life imprisonment).
Pro choicers are also cowards.
If you believe in, "my body, my choice" to justify legalized abortion, then this does extend to the moment of birth. It would mean you would want abortion to not just be safe and legal, but common. When something can arguably be as bad as murder, the more common it is, the harder it would be to be banned. There is an argument that meat eating is murder, but nobody tries to ban meat eating because it is extremely common. There is an argument that r@pe is as bad as murder, but nobody tries to legalize it because compared to eating hamburgers, r@pe is extremely rare.
If abortion was as rare as r@pe, then pretty much everyone would want women that get abortions to be tried as murderers; if it's as common as eating meat, then pretty much nobody would want to ban it (and just as how vegans often get made fun of for being vegan due to their rarity, a world where 97% of women get abortions on a regular basis would bust the balls of the, "personally pro life" crowd of women (who would have to appear to be pro choice at least publicly). If a vegan calls for banning meat eating enough times in public, they get shunned by society; so if a vegan wants to ban meat, then they usually keep it to themselves; if vegans made up 84% of the population, then many vegans would advocate for banning meat.
So the easiest way to keep abortion legal is to make it safe, legal, and common. Safe, legal, and rare is kindof a contradiction.
You don't need to subsidize abortions to keep them legal (if you want a hamburger, then you pay for it), although it helps because it increases the rate at which people get abortions.
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@FLRW
Trump could have picked JD Vance as his VP, you would call it the incorrect choice. If Trump made Tim Scott, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Ben Carson, Kari Lake, or anyone similar his VP, then you would say the same thing. On the flip side, the right would praise Trump for whatever VP he chooses to pick. I don't care who Trump has as his VP pick and am voting for RFK.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump added more debt in 4 years than any other in history. 8 trillion.He had a trillion dollar deficit long before the word COVID was ever heard.
You are not far off from being correct, but what's the point in you saying that? You aren't going to change Wylted's mind on Trump no matter how good your argument is (and Wylted won't change your mind no matter how good his pro Trump argument is).
What do you get out of talking bad about Trump? I hate Trump and I'm not voting for him, but what is your goal by talking about how bad Trump is?
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Trump could have picked JD Vance as his VP, you would call it the correct choice. If Trump made Tim Scott, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Ben Carson, Kari Lake, or anyone similar his VP, then you would say the same thing. On the flip side, the left would criticize Trump for whatever VP he chooses to pick. I don't care who Trump has as his VP pick and am voting for RFK.
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@wylted
Are faggots are better than your faggots. Compare Blaire White to Dylan Mulvaney.
Is the reason you prefer Blaire White to Dylan Mulvaney political affiliation? What about Dawn Marie vs Dylan Mulvaney?
You like Blaire White because she's a conservative. That's fine; but don't expect left wingers to have that same opinion about Blaire White vs Dylan Mulvaney. They probably prefer Dylan Mulvaney.
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I see young dudes from the 2020s and I see young women from the 1960s. I notice they act very similar with their temperaments. I saw young guys from the 1960s and they had similar temperaments from women from the 1900s.
Whatever direction this nation is going with temperaments, women are about 60 years ahead of men. The thing is, I think America's temperament quality is regressing and technology may have had something to do with it, but we need temperaments like what we used to have; society was much better behaved then.
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@wylted
Digital rape:
Yeah; it should be prosecuted.
After reading your link to an extent, if I murder someone in a videogame, it's not the same thing as murdering them in real life. Some people don't like movies with blood and shooting in them, but they don't have to watch.
I don't think showing your 8 year old an R rated movie should merit a murder charge and I don't think raping someone online should be banned. If it's too traumatizing for the victim, they can take off VR anytime they want too and their character would be dead, but the internet is not real life, just like R rated movies aren't real life. I don't want to set the precedent, "Anything you do on the internet in an entirely fake context is the same as if you do it in real life". Stealing 2000 Gold coins from Mario Bros is not the same thing as robbing someone $2000.
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