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1:32. Elon Musk Supports Palestine. Same with Putin. Zelenski supports Israel; maybe the left can stop funding Ukraine from that if they are going to be so pro Palestine.
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This transwoman (whom apparently is loved by white supremacists) is somehow worried that some mobsters are going to destroy her property due to her beliefs and kill her family members.
1st off; they don't even know where you live. 2nd off; if they did, then they wouldn't have the ability or the will to actually commit murder like that. Richard Spencer is a white supremist as well; he didn't get lynched; he didn't even get his ass whopped until he decided to go to Seattle and start talking about his ideas. It doesn't make assaulting powerless people ok, but imagine I go into Dearborn flying an Israeli flag (or Morningstar heights flying a Palestine flag). Only an idiot does something like that. Richard Spencer wouldn't be attacked if he stayed in rural white MAGA America and neither would this paranoid person. Just like black people from Harlem are going to be scared of attacking someone from rural white Trump country.
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@Double_R
This always baffles me. Right now the choices are either Kamala or Trump. One of them will be your next president, the only question is whether you will have a say in that or let the rest of the country decide for you.
I live in a blue state; Kamala will win here. There is no point in me voting for somebody that II don't even respect.
But would you rather I not vote or vote for Trump? The 1st option? Alright; then be grateful.
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@n8nrgim
Uncomfterable truth. I even prefer an uncomfortable truth to a euphemism. I would rather be told, "You're fired" than, "We have to let you go due to poor behavior". It's how I plan on treating other people. Their feelings got hurt? I don't care; you fucked up; you deserve to have your feelings hurt. Your pain is my pleasure. Euphemisms insult my intelligence; it implies I can't figure out what it means on my own.
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But on the issue of transgenderism, they are conservative. Elon Musk is pro choice and thinks climate change is a serious problem; but on the issue of transgenderism, both he and Petersen are conservatives.
Many liberals have been canceled by the left and many conservatives have been canceled by the right (like Mike Pence, Liz Cheney, anti Trump republicans who you call the swamp).
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@Best.Korea
If alcohol is a bit harmful, so what. Junk food is harmful too.
Alcohol is way worse.
Plus, we need to draw the line somewhere, so why not draw it at 7?
Way too young; I prefer 16.
You dont know 7 year old's life. Maybe he had a difficult life and needs alcohol to forget and feel better.
Excuses are like assholes; everyone's got one and they all stink!
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Musk isn't being a shitty father; he's being a conservative father.
If you think shitty=conservative, then say so; like what do you want me to tell you?
I respect the liberal that says, "All conservatives are shitty people with shitty opinions" than the one that says, "It's possible to be a conservative that I respect" and doesn't state how that would be possible.
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Your link was not to a JD Vance speech.yes it was
Roosevelt's link was to some people making fun of hillbillies.
You didn't even see the JD Vance speech Roosevelt listed. You don't know what you are talking about!yes I did. It was a 35 second clip from a longer speech. here is the rest of the speech
You know what? Forget it.
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@wylted
Also fair, they are human beings worthy of respect. I would say I think it's a title and not offensive but I see how some people think it could objectify or dehumanize babies.
Calling someone an anchor baby is less offensive to them than having state agents come to their house and arresting their parents and breaking up their family because of "the law" that should be changed.
red herring, she criticized your use of the term anchor baby and you used a red herring.
She's being hypocritical if all of a sudden she cares about children of undocumented immigrants because she would do worse things to them if she was in charge. If a murderer accuses someone who has a DUI of being a danger to society, then the murderer is hypocritical because they are the bigger danger to society.
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You didn't even see the JD Vance speech Roosevelt listed. You don't know what you are talking about!
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Your link was not to a JD Vance speech.
But if JD made a pro marraige speech, then what specifically do you disagree with it?
My rule is if you want to get married, then get married; if you don't want to get married, then don't get married.
But lets say you are anti-marraige (hypocrticial since you are a husband). If you are anti marraige, then you believe that, but keep in mind which group of people agrees with you; Andrew Tate fans who believe marraige is a way for women to divorce and get half of your money (people they call gold diggers).
Andrew Tate fanboys are anti marraige; Ben Shapiro fanboys are pro marraige. Pick which conservative you agree with on the issue of marraige if you have a strong opinion on it.
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I live in a very battleground city; there are large numbers of both democrat and republican voters in my city. I ask the Trump supporters why they like Trump over other republicans, they claim it's because he's an alpha dog (vibes). I ask the Biden supporters why they like Biden over other democrats, they claim it's because he's a calming old man (vibes).
The right likes alpha vibes and the left likes calm vibes. The right may occasionally try and say, "Biden has an open border" (not true; he's done more deportations than Trump; I criticize them both on this, but I care about policy; they don't; they only care about vibes). The left may occasionally say, "Trump's Mr. Jan 6". If Trump never did Jan 6, then I would be way more open to be willing to vote Trump over Biden; the left wouldn't be; so it's not a genuine concern they have. They then say, "Trump's racist" over what was initially his border wall idea (so to them, pro ICE = racist; not even a belief I have even though I'm anti ICE, but a belief they have). Biden deported more people than Trump, and the left doesn't call him out on it; they fall in line. My dad is an example; when Trump was POTUS; he was a teacher; he had undocumented students in his class he respected. Then Biden comes along and does the same stuff as Trump,, my Dad falls in line with Trump's policy done by Biden.
People say Trump apperantly hates black people because he wanted like the Brooklyn 5 to be killed. Trump genuinely disagrees with the court ruling (just like many on the left do with Andrew Tate and Kyle Rittenhouse). If you genuinely believe Andrew Tate is a rapist and the court ruling was wrong, then it's realistic to advocate for the death penalty for Andrew Tate (same with the Brooklyn 5). It's a problem if you act on it and murder Tate or the Brooklyn 5; but speech is just speech; actions are different.
Biden though has said he doesn't want his kids growing up in a racial jungle (this is more racist than wanting people you believe committed r@pe to be killed). The never Trumpers didn't care that Biden said this and never took it back. Why? Because they just like his vibes too much.
I don't think I'm going to vote; and honestly Kamala pisses me off too because she said in a democratic primary that she believes Biden r@ped Tara Reade (which would be fine) but then she ran as his VP for clout and status. Anyone that is willing to be the VP for someone they believe is a rapist has bad moral character. I said that about Kay Ivey endorsing Roy Moore for senate (she believed he is a rapist) and I have to be consistent. I will be remmoving my Harris profile picture shortly.
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@Best.Korea
My concern is I might let the internet accidentally spill onto real life.
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@HistoryBuff
I'm pretty sure it's just a racist conspiracy theory thing.
You are probably right.
Although, if an immigrant wanted to run for POTUS, I wouldn't have a problem with that. If you are a left winger, then you prefer Cenk Uygur to Donald Trump as your POTUS; if you are a right winger; then you prefer Elon Musk to AOC.
Neither party has a principled stance against immigrants becoming POTUS and where you are born is out of your control, so neither do I.
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My grandmother: Illegal immigrants need to be deported!!!
Me: I don't give a rat's ass if you are undocumented or an anchor baby or anything like that.
My grandmother: How DARE you be so offensive by calling people anchor babies!
Me: What's more offensive, calling someone an anchor baby, or separating an anchor baby from their parents? You statists need to chill.
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@HistoryBuff
The argument amber is making is that since they weren't citizens, harris wouldn't get citizenship.
But actual anchor babies (not deragatory) are US Citizens.
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@Amber
Kamala Harris - Wikipedia says Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, CA. Everyone born in the US is a Citizen unless they renounce citizenship later (which Harris hasn't).
Now, Oakland has a very high black population; so that might explain why Harris is a bit darker. But it's irrelevant; Harris was born in Oakland, CA.
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@GP
You think you changed some minds by talking politics with them because you got the last word, but that's because they were either in shock or they got tired.
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Don't be a pussy. My workplace is 80% democrats and I am willing to talk politics with anyone who engages me.
Maybe if they start the conversation; but I dare you to go to one of your left wing co workers and tell them you don't want black Haitians in the US (or even more moderately; that poor people should starve to death to save the taxpayer money or that abortion should be banned to a woman that got an abortion). I fucking dare you. You easily could lose your job. I've lost quite a few jobs for running my mouth on politics.
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I've decided to at least attempt to leave this site at least on this account. I've noticed that when I'm tired, I tend to be way more willing to talk politics than when I'm mentally alert. This wouldn't be an issue except sometimes I get tired at work, and if I start talking politics at work, then I risk getting fired; and I would rather lose this account than lose my job. I intend on still being active on my satire account because it does take a decent amount of energy to make satire (and laughter is good because everyone here knows I can say the most horrible stuff on my satire account and everyone knows it's a joke and I don't actually believe what I say there) and I don't think I can elaborately plan satire when I'm at work (plus if I said at work what I said on my satire account, I might not get hired anywhere; I might even get reported to the police). But it takes enough energy and I should indeed know my audience (which I'm working on). Like, I don't really talk politics with my family anymore even when others are talking politics because they've decided that my opinions are so horrible to them that they don't want to hear it; and I can't force people to listen to opinions they find horrible (and I think it's kindof pointless).
Lets say every single Trump supporter (or Biden supporter if you like Trump) on this website ended up changing their minds on Trump and voted the way you wanted them too. It won't change much; it will have virtually no impact on whether Biden or Trump wins the election. I don't believe companies check this website, but I need to learn to stop talking politics when I'm tired (otherwise it could plausibly happen at work). Because of this, I'm asking the mods to ban this account.
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@Amber
You're also being very disingenuous here because you know full well that women do not get to make arbitrary decisions to abort right up to the 9th month or even the 11th hour.
But should women be allowed to make this decision up until 9 months of birth? If one consistently believed in, "my body, my choice", then the answer would be yes.
What do transgender people in America have to do with the price of tea in China where the abortion debate/discussion is concerned?
Trans people are rare. Late term abortions are rare. The frequency of something is irrelevant as to whether or not it should be legal. There can be only 0 late term abortions in the entire nation; it wouldn't matter as to if it should be legal to do them. In reality, if 1.2% of abortion are late term, out of 800K abortions/year, it would mean 10K abortions/year are late term. Should these 10K abortions/year be legal?
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Mass immigration causes brain drain which negatively effects developing regions
So the America first party all of a sudden is against smart people leaving bad countries and heading to the US?
we also make things easier for corrupt governments by taking their dissidents as opposed to leaving them in a place where they can fight and fix the government.
It takes a massive amount of balls to claim that if you were in a bad nation, than you would litterally fight to restore the government. 75 million Americans thought the election was rigged and their government was being tyranical; like 2000 of them actually showed up on Jan 6. If you think the government repeals the 1st amendment, then you really think you are going to risk your life for the right to utter sentences? You have massive amounts of delusions of grandeaur. NYC had the vax mandates (I was anti mandate in 2021 and I thought it was unjustified government control). If I was living in NYC; you really think I would have assasinated Eric Adams over it? You crazy?!?!
long prison sentences reduce crime and make communities safer
But they cause a lot of pain to prisoners (I'm not talking about murderers or rapists, but people in jail for smoking weed). Smoking weed should not get you a life sentence.
It makes people less susceptible to being raped.
How in the hell is an AR 15 going to protect a woman from being raped? It's harder to carry (especially for a 5'3" woman). She is less mobile; making it easy for rapists to attack her. She's better off just buying some pepper spray. Millions of women open carry pepper spray for rape protection. I've been to constitutional carry states before; not one woman (or man) I've seen open carries an AR 15.
I support the right to open carry an AR 15; but it's such a pointless right. Imagine you lose the AR 15 somewhere and some asshole gets your gun. There is a reason why you don't just see people (outside of media stunts to virtue signal about guns) open carrying AR 15s.
Don't be a rapist and you don't need to worry about if the woman you are attacking has one
If I was a rapist, then I would love my victim to rely solely on an AR 15 for "protection"; she will have an extremely hard time getting it and then I can traumitize her. She would even be afraid to use it because she may end up shooting at other people; I can use them as human sheilds just like Hamas!
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but I feel like you are going to say because they have better emergency room services despite me providing a link that proves the opposite
I was going to say it's because Europe regulates what you eat way more than America does (and Europeans and Canadians tend to get more exercise due to their cities being more walkable). The right would respond, "free market capitalism separates the winners from the losers, so let unsuspecting people put unhealthy food in their system in the name of FREEDOM!!" I want my food more regulated so it's healthier for you.
Because we have heard this all before.
You can believe the climate predictions are wrong (and honestly; I am not a climate change alarmist either). But if you are a climate change alarmist, this shouldn't ban you from voting, even if they act on this by choosing not to reproduce. If you want there to be a minimum IQ to vote, I don't know which party this helps, but I would be more fine with that (assuming you can prove it) than banning childfree people from voting. If you think a smart Harvard scientist cares less about the future of the planet than Jammal from the hood or Devin from the Trailer Park because they have a bunch of kids and the Harvard scientist doesn't, then you are wrong.
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The Nays clearly won and despite being anti freespeech when it was MGTOW demon being banned for wrong think by the previous mod team, the same exact people are pro free speech now.
I believe Andrew Tate should not have his social media banned; I'm a free speech absolutist.
But I support left wing speech's right to be on social media more than right wing speech's right to be on social media because the left has a consistent ethos (being against unwanted pain) whereas the right doesn't have any ethos. The right bandwagons; the left feels; the libetarians think. I prefer thinking to feeling, and I prefer feeling to bandwagoning.
You would say:
the right is AUP as well
Explain to me how mass deportations, mass incarceration, student loans, and legalizing the sale of AR 15s reduces unwanted pain.
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Because they have better eating habits
And why is that?
Wrong. They would prioritize the short term (there own lifespan), over the long term (perhaps a 250 year time horizon).
Then why do they want to deal with climate change so badly? The sea levels would rise a lot by 2100 according to the scientists; 40 year old climate change activists with no kids aren't being alive for that.
People who donate very little of their income to charity don't care much about others; should their voting rights be taken away?
The real reason you don't want childless people being allowed to vote is because they lean democrat and you want to make it easier for republicans to win elections. If childless people leaned republican, then you would support their right to vote. But whichever way a group leans shouldn't matter in terms of their right to vote.
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I support using their violent tendencies for the benefit of society. So military service and other services.
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So (assuming women could reproduce on their own), would you support deporting or castrating every man because they are more likely to commit crime than women are?
You dodged the question.
Also I never supported banning you
That's literally the OP of this poll.
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Why does the EU have lower obesity rates than the US?
But this is a sidetrack; people who choose to not have children should be allowed to vote.
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The people who think it''s a problem just export their C02 emissions to china
So get China to stop polluting as well. Replace fossil fuels with nuclear energy.
Abolishing the department of education would result in kids receiving a better education and therefore having a better future. The cato institute has some articles that can explain this for you.
Condense their arguments.
You can shorten your own life while simultaneously caring about your children.
If you smoke, then you advertise to others about smoking and they pick up the habit. Every single smoker first saw the idea from another smoker.
this is already debunked as medicare for all kills more people. Unless you are genocidal you should oppose it.
The EU has a higher life expectancy than the US.
Note, I support all of these groups having the right to vote, but I can make a comparably good argument for childless people.
Someone that chooses to be childless often believes the world will be inhospitable by 2100 and would not want their kids to suffer in that world. So they choose not to have kids due to what they believe will be a horrible world for their kids to live in. You can disagree with this logic, but don't claim they don't care about the future of humanity; they do.
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@njk25
Colonizing Antarctica-->Raise in sea levels
How? It's buildings on permafrost.
Also It is prohibited by a treaty
So get rid of the treaty. Like, what's the issue with that?
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For example you like freedom of speech.
Dude you tried to get me banned; you don't get to talk about the importance of free speech.
Another thing unique to western cultures is having a high trust society and high trust societies are lower in crime, safer and more prosperous
Non white nations do have more crime, but also did you know 50% of the US population commits 90% of the murders and rapes (men). So (assuming women could reproduce on their own), would you support deporting or castrating every man because they are more likely to commit crime than women are?
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If you are scared of cartels, then replace ICE with FCE (Fetanyl Control and Enforcement). Leave the vast majority of undocumented immigrants alone.
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It's 420-1776; he's making fun of the idea. If you were consistent, then anyone that doesn't believe climate change is a serious problem, wants to abolish the department of education, smokes tobacco, and people that oppose medicare for all.
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@wylted
I am sure that the radical Muslims being imported give a fuck about the above values. Maybe the free shit you listed they like, for obvious reasons, but you may need to reconsider the above.
I'm not saying they do and I frankly don't care if they do (because I believe in free speech, while you don't). But you made the argument that those who don't have non-western values should be excluded from western countries (which includes virtually all of MAGA). You are a fucking monarchist; the west believes in democracy; you would have to expel yourself to a place like Saudi Arabia where they have an absolute monarchy.
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@3RU7AL
where do you think lawmakers get their campaign funds ?
Corporations; this is why Citizens United should be repealed.
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The people with western values are less likely tondestroy western society
Some examples of western values:
- Abortion legalization
- LGBT pride parades
- Drag queen story hour
- Medicare for all
- Free college
- Secularism/Anti Theocracy
- Well funded public schools
It sounds like conservatives are less likely to have western values. Does this mean we should ban conservatives from moving into Western influenced CT?
You may be able to get away with saying, "Only a fool thinks Western society would be improved by letting people in from huts". But if you can, then I can also get away with saying, "Only a fool thinks the people that built Manhattan, Chicago, Fairfield County, CT, Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam counties will be enriched by people who come from the Trailer Parks".
So do you want to ban trailer park residents from moving into the NY metro area, or are you just against black people for being black? You want a high nation average IQ? Then spend more on public education. More money for our wonderful public school teachers + time -> higher national average IQ.
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- You want a wall on our southern border and our northern border.
- You don't want a wall on our northern border, but you also don't for our southern border.
- You are a racist.
I'm #2.
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I don't expect your mind to change no matter the arguments due to your racist beliefs (and when Roosevelt calls you racist; he's just virtue signaling, but when I say it, take it to heart).
You had to use "Haitians" because they are black and not, "Illegal aliens" because you aren't against undocumented Canadians moving into the US (the US does not have a border wall on our northern border). But you would be against black Haitians moving here.
I'm not the first person that calls someone racist; but if I call someone racist, then it's earned. I'm tough to break, but I got to call a spade a spade.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Did they raise defense spending beyond inflation?
It's been roughly stagnant in terms of GDP %.
You criticize them for defense spending because you have no idea what an appropriate number for defense is.
My ideal amount is 1% of the GDP.
Because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Because you’re not a serious adult citizen.
What is the overton window for the military budget in terms of GDP %? I don't want any tax dollars funding foreign wars (which democrats agreed with until Biden changed the tune, then they all fell in line like sheep).
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@IwantRooseveltagain
No, taxation is an obligation of citizenship. Adult citizens anyway. Why should we let you stay in the country if you can’t meet your obligations?
Taxation is forced charity; now it is justified forced charity for schools, roads, and social security. But taxes should not be going to fund bombings in foreign nations (whether Ukraine or Israel) that turn parents into vilomahs (parent of a dead child) or taking care of prisoners as the punishment for every crime should be something besides prison.
The military budget is and has been at an appropriate level given the size of our economy.
You didn't answer my question. Trump and Biden both increased the military budget and I criticize them both on it because I have a principled stance against spending on the military at more than 1% of GDP; but are you willing to praise Biden and Trump for raising the military budget? Or are you a pro Biden, anti Trump hack?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I pay more in taxes than you earn in a year.
For now that's the case, but lets see if that's true in 20 years. But if you want to donate to Ukraine, then donate; but taxation is forced charity.
We have too many free-riders who want everything for free, including national defense.
My position is we should cut military spending because the military gets paid to kill innocent civilians as, "collateral damage". Trump and Biden both increased the military budget and I criticize them both on it; but are you willing to praise Biden and Trump for raising the military budget? Or are you a partisan hack?
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@wylted
Labor has value to it. Lets say a Haitian gets paid $100 for their labor. In order for the free market to agree to do that, the Hatian's marginal economic contribution must be expected to be at least $100 worth of labor; if it's less, then why would the company hire them? Lets say it's $120. Ok; well that Hatian produced $20 to the US economy more than their salary, increasing stock prices for their company.
But in terms of the $100 they send overseas, there are 3 points I would like to make:
- You and no other taxpayer is paying for the $100 family donation; only the Haitian themselves is. So it is not a burden to you or the taxpayer.
- If you have a rule where you ban overseas donations, then you would have to target religious centers who decide to donate money to Africa since it's more effective there, dollar for dollar, which is a government restriction on the 1st amendment for religious centers. You would also have to target secular charities wishing to do the same. If you want to donate $200 to Ghana, it's your money; do that if you want too.
- If you want to reduce this, then the solution is to abolish ICE, have open borders, and let the whole family come so they move to America and they inevitably buy American goods and services that they shouldn't get handouts for.
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@Best.Korea
None of Hitler's girlfriends dated him before the Holocaust and Germany when Hitler was in power was anti sematic enough for Hitler's beliefs to not be viewed as bad in that society.
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@Best.Korea
Correct; but people are stupid, so you have to live with them.
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If america was it's people than there would not be open borders
America is defined by a bunch of changing variables; it's people; it's land; it's culture and more. But an open border policy merely means America becomes a nation with more people and GDP.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That’s terrible. Is that the world you want? Where the powerful take over the weak.
It's the world I can tolerate. It's what America did to Native reservations and to the SW Mexico; it's what England did to Cornwall; it's what Italy did to Sicily. Often, big places conquer small places; it is what it is. Hate it? Then return Texas and California to Mexico (I don't want to do that).
My tax cuts matter more to me than Ukranian livesGeez. That is shameful
It's stereotypically fiscally right wing; if you believe being fiscally right wing is shameful; then fine, but keep in mind; the right wins elections despite being unpopular on social issues because of promises of tax cuts. Cutting taxes means you will have to cut some government program (like foreign aid and military spending) and I think it through.
If human life had to be saved no matter what, then adopt Ukranian children. It's easy to preach altruism about the importance of, "saving lives" until you actually have to do it and adopt some child from Ukraine (which if you are willing to do that, then why not adopt a kid from Gaza as well if diversity is a strength?).
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Would you rather we send troops to Ukraine to contain Putin?
No; I would rather have Russia completely annex all of Ukraine than send a single US tax dollar there (and I would prefer it if they didn't annex Ukraine; but it's not America's problem). My tax cuts matter more to me than Ukranian lives (product of being fiscally right wing). If you care about Ukrainians so much, then adopt children from Ukraine; you are a landlord; you clearly have the money. I'm anti Trump, but I don't think we should be funding Ukraine or Israel or anyone like that. You want to help Ukrainians? Then let them move here (don't give them welfare).
Be glad it’s only money we need to send.
What a politician's response. I'd rather not send any money (and a lot of Americans agree with me on this, so it's not a crazy position).
Do you remember how many people died because of WWII?
Don't know; don't care. The way to prevent WWII deaths is to encourage European migrants to move to the US with an Ellis island approach, so the US GDP goes up due to increased population. Don't give them welfare, even if it leads to their kids starving.
That could happen again thanks to Putin’s reckless invasion of Ukraine.
Putin won't invade any NATO country.
You have a weird, media induced, Ukraine fetish.
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@Amber
The "My Body, My Choice" is about the right to medical privacy and a woman's right to choose.
So a woman can have the right to choose whether to get an abortion through all 9 months of pregnancy or is it going to be when the fetus has an X% chance of being viable (X being arbitrary)? There is nothing wrong with backing legal abortion until the moment of birth (this is my current position). Just own it if this is your position.
As I previously wrote, prior to RvW being invalidated, approximately 89-94% of ALL abortions were before 14 weeks with the majority of those being before 6 weeks. Less than 1.2% of ALL abortions were at or after 22-24 weeks gestation.
And less than 1.2% of the US population is transgender; if you forcibly relocate transgenders to Canada, then very few people would be effected, but it's still a bad policy even if it effects very few people.
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You won't get any mail in ballots for this referendum. Federal referendums have millions of voters; this referendum has so few voters, you can literally list all of them in one DART post. You don't need mail in ballots for referendums with these few voters compared to state elections.
Your whole ideology is, "owning the libs" and it's frankly disgusting as blue voters make up the majority of the voters in a generic election and it's really not showing your respect for America (defined as the people living in it).
America is a blue country overall.
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