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We should burn the confederate flag!
The confederate flag is a symbol of slavery.

We should burn the confederate flag and replace it with the 2nd amendment flag.  I prefer freedom over slavery.

But also keep in mind the real modern day slavery is done by our adversaries; the Chinese communist government.

I am a Yankee; the Yankees; the Northern Republicans won the war.  Now, lets stop slavery worldwide!
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Trump Should Drop Out
@GP

Nobody wants that.
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@Dr.Franklin
Highly unlikely.
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@Best.Korea
What's your ideal penalty?
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@Best.Korea
You could introduce penalty for those who break promises as presidents.
I agree with that.  A POTUS should be required to keep 100% of their promises if they have the power to get it done and the penalty should be disqualification from a 2nd term.
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@Best.Korea
How else are you going to vote?
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@Best.Korea
A woman shooting a man who r@ped her is different than the same woman shooting that same man's kids because that man r@ped her kids.

Groups of people (families, nations, etc) should be held to a different standard than individuals.
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@Best.Korea
Well, British probably shouldnt have bombed so many muslim countries. Now muslims bomb them. I dont see what confuses the British in this scenario.
This is such a retarted take.  America bombed Iraq; 500K civilians died; does that mean you want the middle east to murder everyone in Boston?  No; that's loony talk right there.
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Whites are being Genocided in Manchester

Genocide definition:

the deliberate killing or severe mistreatment of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group
Are people being put in British concentration camps for being British?  No.

What country is invading Britain?  Is Sudan invading Britain?  Because that's a horrible military strategy; Britian is very far away from Sudan and Sudan doesn't have the recourses to perform such an invasion.

Is it whites being less common?  Yes; but this isn't genocide.  It just means fertility rates among white people are down.

If you are a white British person and you want whites to stay the majority in Europe, then find a white woman and have a lot of white kids that you can afford to raise.

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@Best.Korea
I wonder who is the next US president you guys will blindly believe.
Every single 1st term POTUS you are going to have to take faith that they will keep their promises; but then they serve their 1st term; it's up to them to keep their promises and if they don't, then it's up to you to vote them out if you voted for them because of a promise they broke.
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@Best.Korea
You believed Bush when he said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
Bush was POTUS when I was like 3 years old.

You believed Trump when he said he will pay off the debt.
I was willing to give him a chance.  But now if he made that same promise, I wouldn't believe him.  Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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@Best.Korea
I lie sometimes. It happens. I just hoped you would believe me.
I don't know how things are in prison, but here in suburban America, we ask for evidence.
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Based Retard Fetterman warns about Shapiro as VP pick

Fetterman never provides evidence for his claim when he says Shapiro is, "too focused on personal interests and does not have the countries best interests at heart."

But back in my day, Fettermans were democrats and Shapiros were republicans.  That certainly has changed.
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@Best.Korea
Everything you say about a political candidate you should believe is true.  Otherwise, it's literally fake news.
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@Best.Korea
That just means they didnt resist.

Lack of resisting isnt exactly a consent.
Difference of interpretation

He admitted on video that he didnt ask them for consent.
Where is the link for it?  I wouldn't vote for Trump even if he's innocent on this issue, but evidence is needed.
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@Best.Korea
I thought it was, "When you're a star, they let you do it."

A reputable source will probably change my mind on this.
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@Best.Korea
Trump argued it was consensual.
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@Best.Korea
You don't understand; Trump can admit to r@ping several children and his base either won't care or they will call it fake news from CNN (if Fox does it; they will call Fox sell outs).

But if Trump defends legalized abortion; then his base might be mad at him.
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@3RU7AL
should it be illegal to make a movie critical of a politician during an election ?
No; but if the movie is produced, then that movie's production should be required to be funded by small dollar donors (we the people) and not we the globalists.

Do you think corruption should be legal?
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@Best.Korea
But I dont know how to teleport back to my original planet. I dont remember how I even ended up on Earth. All I know is that Earth is bad.
It's hell; where you belong.

But suicide is an illogical action.
It saves the taxpayer money; which 1 penny is more valuable than a pedo's life.
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Why I don't believe in God
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@triangle.128k
420-1776 is a satire account.
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@3RU7AL
The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other associations.
This is the same as legalizing corruption.  Corporation's free speech drowns out everyone else's free speech.  I prefer we the people's free speech to we the globalist's free speech.
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Why I don't believe in God

Commu it's pretty universally outlaw Christianity and have Christians murdered for believing in God. Be less retarded
Cuba outlawed Christianity?  The Orthodox Russians outlawed Christianity?

Religious freedom and economic policy are mutually independent.
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@Best.Korea
I know you (a pedophille) endured a lot of pain in jail.  And quite frankly; it's irrelevant.

You don't belong on this planet.  You should kill yourself; pedo scum.
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@Dr.Franklin
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@Dr.Franklin
Then you should warn kids of porn, don't ban it.

Tobacco is damaging to you; but people should have the freedom to smoke 10 packs of tobacco a day if they choose (but they should be warned in school to not smoke).
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@Dr.Franklin
 I was referring to your claim about trump and dementia
Trump in 2024 is older than Biden was in 2020; Trump might be having some dementia.

I am for prostitution which de facto replaced porn. 
That's like saying you want to ban apples because you are pro banana.  Let people choose for themselves if they want to pay for a prostitute or watch porn, both, or neither.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Or the way Trump is sometimes white and sometimes orange. For years Trump was a white guy, then all of a sudden he’s identifying as an Oompa Loompa.
Somebody should look into that.
His skin color is irrelevant.  He's bad because of Jan 6; it doesn't matter if he was white, orange, or African American.
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@Dr.Franklin
You flipped just like that.  First, you said, "JD Vance doesn't want to ban porn" (implying you agree that porn should be legal, but you assume Vance has this position) and then when you found out he wants to ban it, you change your position to fit in with dear leader.

But imagine advocating for banning something 86% of dudes have used in the last year.


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Something immigrants would be useful for
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@Best.Korea
Yes.  I want 100%.  It's globalization; smaller cultures get assimilated into bigger ones.
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Something immigrants would be useful for
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@Best.Korea
It's not evil; it's just expansionist.  Evil would be if I wanted to murder the Natives (which I don't want to do).  I just want Native Reservations to not be a thing anymore.
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MAGA ALL THE WAY!!!

Benefits of dating a post op transwoman:

  1. Very little demand, so you don't have to worry about her sleeping with other dudes.
  2. Is insecure about their femininity, so they look awesome even as they age.  You can even tell them to make you a sandwich.
  3. Doesn't require a lot of money; they will be grateful merely by you showing them to their parents.  They are not gold diggers.
  4. They love to be showed off.
  5. They can't get pregnant, so you can go raw and not worry about child support payments.  You can adopt if you ever want kids.  They also don't get abortions.

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Something immigrants would be useful for
Lets say there are 700K people living in Native Reservations.  America attracts like 2 million immigrants/year.

Offer these 2 million immigrants US Citizenship if they move into Native American reservations and vote to eliminate the reservation, integrating it with their respective states.  No human being is illegal (including colonists who settle Native Reservations to claim the land for the US).  The most common counterargument:

The Native CulTUeE!!
What is their culture?  Knowing some native language known by practically nobody where you also know English most of the time?  Yeah; preserving Native Languages is totally useless; the natives should learn behind their inferior language (because pratically nobody knows it compared to English) and learn English like everyone else in the US.  A language is a tool for communication and nothing more.  Your language is not worth preserving.

Watch a bunch of lefties call me racist (even though I litterally want to abolish ICE and repeal Qualified immunity) because I am an expansionist, and I think learning Cherrokee is totally useless to do in this world.

They will complain, but I listen to this guy on this issue:

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Why don't people think Trump will replace Vance?
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@Double_R
But then again Trump is such an egomaniac it's hard to see him facing the fact that he was wrong.
He's replaced people before.
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Why don't people think Trump will replace Vance?
If the left can swap out their POTUS, then the right can swap out their VPOTUS.

People say:

Trump ditching Vance will hurt him
Why?  The left benefitted when they replaced Biden.

Trump brags about him only hriing the best people
He's fired a bunch of people before; Vance can just be the next one.

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HATE Speech should be banned

Eliminating all the stupid stuff the government spends money on won't be enough to balance the budget.
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@3RU7AL
do you personally think it should be illegal to make a movie (or a book) that is critical of a political candidate ?
No?!?!

Citizens United legalized CURROPTION, not criticizing politicians.
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@Dr.Franklin

Although I suspect if you believed JD Vance wants to ban porn, then you would agree.
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@Sidewalker
It is time for JD Vance to demand that Trump be replaced atthe top of the ticket.
I prefer Vance to Trump, but I'm not voting for someone that wants to ban porn.

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@Dr.Franklin
He was actually quite sharp
Key part: Was.

If Trump has dementia, then he shouldn't be POTUS, especially since Trump is older now than Biden was in 2020.
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@wylted

Prevents children from the pain of experiencing abortion
99% of abortions are before when the fetus can feel pain and in the 1%, painkillers exist, making abortion until birth plausibly painless.

Makes rape and home burglaries less commo, which are painful
Shotguns and pepper spray prevent that; not AR 15s.

Prevents the sexual exploitation of minors by traffickers and once the adults are investigated the children are returned to them. Not sure why you want pedophiles to have access to children, pervert.
Sex traffickers I think should be beheaded, but the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are not sex traffickers.

Republicans are pro drug legalization now
OIP.lOo_oQR7vSabDcARrc8lIQAAAA (474×474) (bing.com) says most GOP states have weed banned for recreational use.

We value freedom so we allow them to take loans for stupid shit if they want
Only libertarians value freedom consistently; conservatives don't.

Leftist = spiteful mutant

Liberal- the more reasoned democrats but one the 5 value study would mostly be looking at.
What would you call Kyle Kulinski?
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 please explain how this would fix anything
It makes it illegal for politicians to be curropt; they can break the law, but then there is nothing that can be done to end curroption.


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@3RU7AL
the dead don't suffer

the living always suffer

this isn't about "preferences"

this is only about reducing suffering
Only unwanted suffering; if you want to work out in the gym, it would be painful, but you chose to endure that pain, so it's wanted pain (or at least tolerated pain).  Being alive produces tolerable amounts of pain for anyone not suicidal.

i suffer emotional damage when i think about the unborn hoards losing their bright futures

banning abortion reduces my suffering
Legalizing abortion reduces female suffering (if she chooses to abort) more than banning it reduces your suffering.  You want kids to have bright futures?  Then adopt a kid.  Until then, it's all virtue signalling.

i love shooting guns and when i'm shooting guns i forget about all my problems and this reduces my suffering
There's videogames for that, where there is no big movement to ban.

unskilled immigration drives down wages and low wages make me feel bad, i like money and money reduces my suffering
Wages won't go down because a doubled population moving into the country produces twice as much demand for jobs, but also twice as much supply for them.  A company with twice as many customers (which immigrants are customers off the job and workers on the job) will need twice as many workers to maintain the customers.

drugs cause suffering and if we can end the drug trade by scaring the pants off everyone with harsh penalties, then, in the long run, suffering will be reduced for future generations
How's that worked out so far?

and on top of that, it makes me feel good to think about drug dealers and drug addicts locked up in prison for the rest of their lives
That's just sadistic (which being sadistic is a republican thing).

 and the idea of my tax dollars paying for someone else to get an advantage in the job market increases my suffering
Free college costs $60 billion/year in taxes (about $200 per US Citizen/year extra in taxes).  The top 25% are paying about 90% of this (and for them, the higher taxes aren't a significent amount of suffering compared to student loans), so for the bottom 75% on average; it's like $20/US Citizen on average; for the bottom 50%, it's like $4/year.  Having them pay the $4/year is less suffering than having a college student pay $120000 in college fees.

if you punish innovators, they'll just move somewhere else and then they'll fire all their employees in your country and unemployment increases suffering
There are 193 nations in the world all with some level of taxation.  If all the globalists cared about was avoiding taxes, then whichever nation had the lowest tax rate, 100% of the globalists would live there.  The globalists aren't moving even if they have to pay 10% higher in taxes due to the government raising them.

that's the problem. nobody cares about ALL HUMAN SUFFERING
True, but if you had to pick between preventing a kid from scraping their knee (tax hike on the rich) and preventing a kid from having their leg chopped off by a chainsaw (student loan for a student), I think if you are AUP, it's pretty obvious which reduces unwanted pain the most.  The rich person will heal; the student is much less likely to.

also, in the united states, the lawmakers are all funded by millionaires and billionaires, so, don't expect them to bite the hand that feeds them anytime soon
The left wants to repeal Citizens United.
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@Swagnarok
Fetuses can't feel pain until 18 weeks or so and even if they can feel pain, you give them painkillers, you can abort them all the way up until the moment of birth completely painlessly.  Free abortion makes this easier.  This is from the left wing AUP perspective.
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 Decreasing the income tax and instituting a wealth tax would be more economically efficient.
Sure, but the republicans don't agree with that.
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@Best.Korea
YOU should not reproduce because your genes are inferior to everyone else's.  You may be born a pedophille and it's not a choice; but it's irrelevant.
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@Swagnarok
Wipe out all the inhabitants of New York City instantaneously with a nuclear bomb and you'll be "reducing their unwanted pain". If this sounds nonsensical, that's because it is. There's more to politics than reducing pain.
That's incorrect because NY residents would rather be alive and deal with the pain of being alive than lose their lives due to a nuke (so their pain in that context is wanted or at least tolterated).
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@wylted

See above.
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Me: The democrats consistently want to reduce unwanted pain.  The GOP doesn't consistently believe in anything.

This guy: Everyone wants to reduce unwanted pain.

Me: Then explain how banning abortion, legalizing AR 15s, separating undocumented children from their families (whether through state force like deportation or inaction like letting the parents die due to lack of healthcare or food), continuing the drug war and locking people up in jail for weed, forcing students to take on huge loans to go to college, and not raising taxes on the globalists to pay for it all reduces unwanted pain?  If people with George Soros level wealth pay 70% of their income in taxes, that produces way less unwanted pain than the amount of unwanted pain it would offset.

Now, I'm upfront and I don't value reducing unwanted pain, but I value LUSHOOTY (Liberty Unless Significantly Harming Others Or Too Young).  But how can the republicans be against unwanted pain consistently?
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@Best.Korea
No.
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