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@Stephen
You're right. I had a brain fart. The Epic of Gilgamesh is Sumerian. While Hindus accepted it, their epic is actually The Mahabharata
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@IlDiavolo
useless to use products on our skin when it's not necessary.
Not only is it necessary, but it also increases your cache with the opposite sex.
For instance, applyong green tea to the skin actually reverses dark spots and other skin blemishes.[1]
The fact of the matter is skin gets damaged over time mainly from poor care and maintenance, particularly among men.
Taking care of yourself, including your skin, isn't effeminate at all. It is actually important.
Just because men's skin is tougher, that doesn't mean it doesn't get damaged.
The same is true with sunglasses. 70 years ago only "effeminate men" wore sunglasses. In reality, sunglasses help protect against cataracts and ocular damage from too much sun exposure. Now everyone does.
Additionally, ancient roman soldiers, who are universally considered tough as nails, even in their day, had meticulous hygeine regimens.[2]
So it is preposterous, to me, to suggest that taking care of yourself and wanting to look your best is effeminate. Skin needs care like every other part of your body. Applying products that nourish it, like Green Tea, can actually prevent things like cancer and radiation damage from the sun.
It also helps you get laid.[3] So... idk... might be something to consider.
Of course. If you'd rather be "masculine" and die single, that's an option too.
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@IlDiavolo
How so?
Welp, for starters, of the general public. Half of young men use moisturizer:
So is half of young America gay?
Moreover, 51% of black men said in a survey they use lotion every day:
So are those people all gay? Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, using moisturizer is actually good for the skin and these people have figured it out. Making them look young, healthy, and, therefore, fuckable.
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@IlDiavolo
Today it's moisturizer, what is it tomorrow? Botox?
Do you realize that virtually every black man in the world moisturizes? Are they all gay to you?
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@IlDiavolo
Guys don't put stuff on their faces, that's pretty gay.
Did I say, anywhere, that men should use make-up?
Men should definitely use face and body moisturizer and face wash though. So they don't look like an aging pirate.
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@Best.Korea
That sounds like average American man.
Yeah and the average American man is a loser nowadays.
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@IlDiavolo
Look at what we have here, a real dandy. Lol.
I don't follow. Are you saying straight guys should be ugly and unhygenic?
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@n8nrgim
there's a heirarchy for who has it easiest with dating.
The next time you go to a mall, I want you to take some time to look at the people around you. Look at the men and the women.
You'll notice that most men walk around in old clothes that don't fit right, with raggedy hair and beards, and don't even try to hide their big pot belly they got from their alcoholic lifestyle. And they are also wearimg ugly ass shoes. They don't really use skin care products so their skin looks old and used.
But the women wear form-fitting clothing that accentuates their breasts and butt. Half of the time they are walking around almost naked. They take a lot of time into doing their hair, and apply make-up to make their face look better. They also have great hygeine and use skin care products to remove wrinkles and sun spots.
Then ask yourself why only 20% of men are gettimg dates again... That 20% just puts in the effort. Plain and simple.
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@n8nrgim
everyone cant be the top twenty percent of men
That wasn't my main point. My main point is that women's standards aren't really that hard to attain.
There is no "conspiracy" against men. If men would just put a little bit of effort in, and invest in themselves, then women would want more of them. They wouldn't just be going for the 20%. The fact of the matter is just 20% of guys really work at putting in the effort.
Also, people aren't pigs. And most people aren't actually ugly. They just don't put the effort into looking good. Attractiveness isn't just raw looks, a lot of it is swagger. If you have a scar on your cheek, then you should probably wear more military or tough-looking clothes and build a persona of a tough person. That's instantly increasing your "worth" without much effort.
Attractiveness isn't just physical. It is also persona-based.
The "women want to be entertained" bs is just an excuse. Women don't want Ben Stein in Farris Bueller's Day Off but they also don't need you to be a fucking comedian and court jester and a show dog.
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@n8nrgim
80 percent of women are chasing the top 20 percent of men
So, what I heard was, all I have to do is buy a nice car, shower regularly, have a good-paying job, and get a good haircut that compliments my features and change my wardrobe and I'll have a near endless selection of women in my life. Not difficult at all.
Women aren't being too picky. Men have simply given up.
It used to be a given that most of the things women want men would provide.
Like, you don't even need a great job. You just need to make enough to splurge and tie up in investments or something. It isn't difficult to accomplish this. 50k, in most places, travels very far for a single male with no debt. To the point where thousands can be laid up in investments every year, which grow at an average interest rate of 10% (11% for the NASDAQ) if you reinvest the dividends.
You can also literally own your own McDonalds in JUST 2 YEARS. No joke. It is that easy to rise up the ranks now. And McDonalds owners make 100k easy.
You can go into a vocational profession like electrical work and make 50k in 1-2 years, and your salary also grows considerably the longer you are in it. They even PAY FOR YOUR TRAINING.
It also isn't that hard to look good. Just learn your facial shape and what types of hair styles and beard styles compliment that, then learn your body type and what types of clothes to wear to compliment it and, presto-chango, you look hot.
Then just shower regularly, put on some cologne, don't wear worn out, dated shit, and don't talk about controversial stuff and let the other person do all the talking and, in 2 years, if you do everything I said, these really simple steps, YOU are the top 20%.
This is telling me that men want to not be hygenic, not have a good-paying job, not dress nicely, and not have social skills. Like... so men want to all be losers??? Is that it?
Honestly it is so easy to become successful in America that I wonder why so many people don't even try looking into it.
It's not like it's some secret hidden away in lodges. Billionaires literally tell you how to become a billionaire. Warren Buffet, for example, gives amazing advice.
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@Greyparrot
Thanks for responding. Couldn't have said it better myself. The fact of the matter is we have multiple witnesses, emails, and financial statements proving Biden took bribes.
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@HistoryBuff
There is no evidence he told joe about it or gave him any money.
I mean... you ignored all the parts where it explicity says Joe Biden was present for all of it and that money was reserved for him, too. But ok. Do you.
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@HistoryBuff
there is no actual evidence that Joe Biden broke any law or did anything against the rules
The American people don’t fully appreciate yet the key role Joe Biden played in the Biden family global influence peddling … I would equate it to a chairman’s role in a traditional business structure. - the business partner who was on the receiving end of the “Don’t mention Joe” message
“If I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you,” the chairman, or another executive named Zhang, “I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.” - text from Hunter Biden to a CCP official
That official paid The Bidens 1 million dollars.
Four photographs prove that Hunter was at Joe’s house that day and took Joe’s cherished Corvette out for a spin.
One week later on August 8, a major corporate shareholder of CEFC wired $5 million to a company named Hudson West III, which had a bank account balance of zero just five days earlier. This company then funneled more than $4 million to companies associated with Hunter.
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In May 2017, the same partner who wrote “Don’t mention Joe” sent an email to Hunter and two of their other partners in which he proposed how the “equity” of a joint venture with a Chinese energy company named CEFC would be “distributed.”
He did by listing the initials of the people copied on the email and numbers that add up to 100 percent. The last one says, “10 held by H for the big guy?”
The only person copied on the email with the initial “H” is Hunter Biden, and a partner who received the email publicly stated that “the big guy” is “in fact a reference to Joe Biden” and the “email is genuine.”
CEFC was not an ordinary business but an effective arm of the Chinese government. In a 2018 voice recording, Hunter Biden described one of the company’s executives who directly paid Hunter $1,000,000 as the “spy chief of China.”
How is there no evidence again? This is clear evidence of Joe Biden accepting bribes.
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@IlDiavolo
think tank from the right wing
That doesn't change the primary source content and witness testimonies they cite in full.
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@Best.Korea
I'm not quite sure what your point is in all that. The Democrat Party far outweighs the MAGA republicans in some of those categories, especially criminals.
But I think it's absurd to define an entire group by minority factions within said group.
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@ponikshiy
deepen a smart person's well of knowledge to learn how to explain their thoughts to idiots.
Oftentimes idiots don't want to even know.
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Summary via Quillbot:
The New York Times reports that Republicans launched an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden without any evidence of financial wrongdoing or corruption. However, overwhelming proof of Biden's corruption and wrongdoing has been found, including written records and corroborated testimonies from first-hand witnesses. At least 12 sets of documented facts leave no reasonable doubt that Biden participated in his son's illicit businesses deals, bribed foreign officials, and obstructed justice. Three major defenses of Biden are demonstrably false: 1) "Don't Mention Joe": Joe Biden claimed he had nothing to do with his son Hunter's business dealings and never even spoke to Hunter about them; 2) "A Chairman's Role": In 2023, the business partner who was on the receiving end of the "Don't mention Joe" message stated that the American people don't fully appreciate yet the key role Joe Biden played in the Biden family global influence peddling; and 3) "The Big Guy": In May 2017, the same partner who wrote "Don't mention Joe" sent an email to Hunter and two of their other partners proposing how the "equity" of a joint venture with a Chinese energy company named CEFC would be distributed.
Joe Biden's involvement in the Ukraine bribery scandal is evident in emails he sent to Hunter and his partners. These emails contained cell phone numbers of 25 high-level officials, which were given to Hunter while he was being paid by Burisma to lobby U.S. officials to protect Zlochevskyi from the law. Biden attacked the "key targets" named by Burisma, including the highest level of decision-makers in Ukraine and the "Prosecutor General." He withheld a U.S. billion-dollar loan guarantee unless the state prosecutor was fired, and the replacement prosecutor agreed to "close down" all cases against Zlochevskyi's in exchange for paying back taxes and penalties. Some argue that Joe Biden had nothing to do with the emails, but the court order obtained by Shokin's office to seize Zlochevskyi's lands and houses two weeks before his forced resignation disproves this. The Biden camp's criticism of Shokin was triggered by Hunter and his company lobbying the State Department to protect Burisma, cloaking their actions with attorney-client privilege.
Read the full article (over 4,000 words long) with all the links and primary sources here:
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@Best.Korea
but I dont brag about it.
The charge was only morons are MAGA Republicans. I am simply asserting the reality that plenty of us are indeed smart.
A statement of fact, when warranted as a defense of one's position, is never bragging.
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@Sidewalker
I'm part of the MAGA crowd (though I fundamentslly disagree with them on some major issues, being a voluntaryist) and my professionally tested IQ is 144.
I also don't think people like Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, Robert Weissberg, and Victor Davis Hanson are morons either. Then there's the Claremont Institute and the Acton Institute, which both have very notable scholars working for them.
Also, believe it or not, you can be a MAGA Republican and not endorse Trump for president. A sizeable portion of the MAGA crowd has moved on from Trump to endorse DeSantis (like Carpe Diem). Though most of them still support Trump.
Just because someone disagrees with you that doesn't make them morons.
Like, I vehemently disagree with Ben Shapiro on Trump. I also vehemently disagree with Carpe Diem on DeSantis. But they are still smart people.
I also recognize that Bernie Sanders, as an individual, is smart, but his political positions are still dumber than wood. To claim he is stupid is to not realize the brand he has built for himself and the tens of millions it has made him. Make no mistake. Sanders is indeed very bright. And he's also very articulate. But ths views he advocates for are horrible and not all that well thought out.
The same holds true for Neil Degrasse Tyson and the late Carl Sagan. Their views are pretty dumb, but that doesn't mean they are idiots.
I also have some issues with AIER, even though we overlap on almost everything politically. They REALLY like to defend major corporations, almost to a fault. Sometimes it is hilariously bad how far they go to defend companies like Amazon. But that doesn't mean that they are morons. A lot of those guys have scores of published research in peer-reviewed journals and advanced degrees in their fields.
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@Sidewalker
And there are nothing but dumb people in MAGA.
Uhhh... permit me to follow your logic here... but if you agree with the rationale that smart people sound stupid to idiots, and all the MAGA people don't sound stupid to each other, and Trump is one of the smart ones... then... like... doesn't that mean all the MAGA people are smart?
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@Sidewalker
The smarter you are, the dumber you sound to stupid people..."Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had!" - William T. Kelley, Marketing Professor at Wharton
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I see what you did here...
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Slavery isn't voluntary.
The U.S. government has a bloated, near-useless welfare state where anyone can choose to spend their entire life not working and get a cell phone, an apartment, food stamps, and health care on Uncle Sam.
But to become rich, you have to work. Why should other people just give you THEIR stuff for free?
So there is no slavery here in the U.S. Nobody is forcing you to work. You can live like a bum here and sleep and eat in homeless shelters even if you want.
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@FLRW
When you’re a star, they let you do it.
There's nothing wrong with consensual sex.
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@FLRW
Well, for a lazy gold brick he sure shaped up... into the net worth of millions of gold bricks... 2.08 million of them to be exact.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
dodging the draft during the Vietnam War
I didn't say he served in the military. I said he attended a military academy where they taught military doctrine.
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I don't know why people keep bringing this up because it is patently false.
You don't have to be a politician to have political experience. Trump was a lobbyist for his business for years. He would use his pocketbook to buy off politicians through legal campaign contributions and by currying favor with them through meetings.
And he did this internationally, too. In Russia, UAE, and other countries he had to regularly navigate the political landscape there to get his projects built.
So Trump, in reality had decades of both national political and geopolitical experience.
As to military experience, he did go to a military academy where they taught the basics of warfare to their students. So he did actually receive military doctrine training.
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@Double_R
the evidence you claim exists that convinces you Biden was running or involved in a criminal scheme.
Okie. In that case I gave it. The phone calls specifically and his finances are the most convincing for me, personally.
The economy is an incredibly complex subject
I agree, which is why I posts raw numbers for all the major indicators from the same source. But, even so, a lot of it relies on government statistics anyways and each administration changes how the data is either defined or collected. So it isn't really an accurate comparison. But it's definitely a much better comparison than citing a WaPo or American Greatness article and making a case that way.
I know you are more liberal, but AIER actually does some amazing analytical work on the state of the economy. They are definitely laissez-faire, though, on their commentary, but most of the indicators they look at when they write their state of the economy pieces isn't sham science.
For the left side of things I think Factcheck.org is pretty good.
In all honesty, though, I think it is a waste of time to read most liberal and conservative sites. AIER is good for their general adherence to strict sourcing for their articles and having authors who actually have advanced degrees in the subjects they cover.
I also like Just Facts. But on the liberal side of things the Congressional Research Service is good. A lot of people like the Brookings Institute but I personally think they write trash that can easily be debunked.
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@FLRW
Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend.
The rest of that sentence is "in prison." Since that is what happened in his China.
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@Greyparrot
@Double_R
The lockdowns were implemented by the states over Trump's objections.
That isn't true, actually. Trump did not do federal lockdowns, but he did pressure states (and businesses) via conference calls to lock down.
He actually held multiple calls with state leaders and told them, essentially, what his position was and to lock down. One of his more infamous calls was to the 13,000 largest businesses saying, effectively, you should follow our mitigation suggestions.
Trump's mitigation suggestions were requiring masks, limiting capacity to a max of 50 people if you had enough square footage (idr the actual square footage per person he suggested) and offering hand sanitizer and closing at 8PM at night. That was all Trump's doing.
Trump was actually a very pro-lockdown President until his reelection campaign. That's when he changed his tune.
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@Double_R
without even hinting
I mean... the title of the video is:
Biden / Poroshenko leaked calls
I had assumed you were caught up with what the GOP charges were, but I can see that the liberal media has not done its job... again...
These are the allegations. I'm asking for the case.
If you had bothered to click on the first hyperlink within the first paragraph, you would have received the "case." Though I feel this is a disingenuous retort from you, tbh. If you are asking about a legal case, there isn't one. But that doesn't mean the allegations never happened. It also doesn't mean the allegations themselves are not a case.
At any rate, it is abundantly obvious to me that you didn't look too closely at all at anything I gave you. So I feel I wasted my time and yours by actually doimg all the work that your news organizations should have done.
I'm not interested in debating point by point every economic indicator you can think of
Then a horrible economist you would make. An economy is not just a GDP number and unemployment statistic. If you took an economics class in college (I'm assuming you went to college) you would know that.
And my indicators are not off-the-wall straw-grasping shit. They are real and scientifically-proven metrics which economists from almost all backgrounds use to determine the shape of an economy.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
We’ve had 10% GDP growth under Biden
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard you say.
You also left out a few nuggets from your absurd take on Biden's economy such as:
Weekly earnings DOWN 3.4%
Home prices UP 35.1%
Gasoline prices UP 51.2%
Trade deficit UP 30.1%
Consumer Price Index UP 15.7%
And the S&P 500 lags Trump's gains by 10%. Home ownership is HALF of Trump's score. And Gas production lags behind Trump's gains by 25%
So much for your great Biden Economy.
Also, Biden only added 3.2 million jobs when you adjust compared to 2019, which is HALF of the jobs Trump created.
Wells Fargo and multiple other institutions also say they believe Biden's economy will enter a recession soon if it hasn't already.
So your man is doing a HORRIBLE job.
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@Double_R
Please summarize the case against him.
Read it here:
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@Double_R
hours of audio and pages upon pages of documents just to figure out what the argument is
I can tell you looked at absolutely ZERO of what I linked to. Because when you read it you don't have to "figure out" what the argument is. The argument presents itself in a nice little bow.
But what's even funnier is you are dismissing evidence, the same type of evidence, that you used to claim you know Trump is guilty.
The leaked phone calls speak volumes in-and-of themselves. So do Biden's financial statements, and the eyewitness testimonies. The Delaware DOJ was strong armed out of pressing charges against Biden.
On the Trump thing:
Obama inherited a trash economy. Trump inherited a nearly-fully-employed one. It's easy to add 7 million jobs when tens of millions are out of work... It's much more of an accomplishment to add 6 million jobs to a nearly fully-employed economy.
But either way, you conveniently ignored the 10 other things I listed about the economy, like the metioric rise of the stock market, the rise in weekly earnings (which has so far fallen by 3.4% under Biden, btw.), the metoric rise in oil production, etc.
Trump very likely had the greatest economy of America's existence before he fucked it up with lockdowns.
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@ponikshiy
I have known for some time that Israel has Judaism as a state religion.
But Christians are definitely not hated nearly as much as Palestinians and Muslims in Israel. If they were, then we wouldn't be allowed to see the biblical places and live there and such.
Overall, though, Israel is a very authoritarian place. Tel Aviv may be known for its ethnic and religious diversity of residents, but if you aren't Jewish you really are a varying degree of second class citizen, or so I've heard.
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@John_C_87
Why do I seem Christian?
Simply because your argument felt kinda similar to theist and Christian Nationalist contacts I had in the past.
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@John_C_87
Can I ask if you consider yourself a Christian Nationalist or part of the monarchist or theist movement?
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@John_C_87
Huh? The state considers him married to Malania...
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@Double_R
nothing drastically got better under Trump
Trump's successes as of October 2019, according to factcheck.org:
Jobs up 6.02 million
Poverty rate down 0.9 points
Murders down 6.9%
Home ownership up 0.4 points
Corporate profits up 6.9%
Regulatory restrictions down 0.26%
Food Stamp recipients down 15.1%
+2,500 coal mining jobs
+482,000 manufacturing jobs
Crude oil production up 33.6%
Weekly earnings up 2.8%
Economic growth rate 2.0%
Median Household income up 2.3%
S&P 500 up 29.8%
Yeah. Trump did do everything I said he did.
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@Double_R
You don't have any of this.
https://youtu.be/8N4PmqyJrTI?si=oOMOQykr6WcM-n9j - leaked calls
https://oversight.house.gov/blog/evidence-of-joe-bidens-involvement-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/ - leaked emails
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/remarks/grassley-johnson-release-bank-records-tying-biden-family-to-ccp-linked-individuals-and-companies - leaked financial records
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Whistleblower-1-Transcript_Redacted.pdf - sworn witness testimonies from the Attorney General of Delaware and the IRS Agents investigating Hunter Biden.
We have more evidence that Biden is corrupt than we do that Trump is married to Malania.
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@ponikshiy
Interesting stuff.
the JFK assassination is like 9/11 for us... speaking of which... do you think 9/11 was an inside job?
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@ponikshiy
a real leader was JFK and you see what we done with the KGB trained Lee Harvey Oswald
Wait is this your personal belief or is it one of those "open secrets" in your country?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You know there’s a god but you are not sure about employment statistics.
Non sequitur. There's evidence for God. There's no evidence that the BLS statistics are the same from admimistration to administration.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Some Christian you are.
1. I didn't elect Jordan. He isn't in my district.
2. The Bible says to gather all the evidence and hear all the testimonies before pronouncing judgement. Since I do not have access to the evidence, I cannot in good faith go one way or the other.
Belonging to a party that elects such people.
Honestly... the GOP sucks almost as much as the DNC.
Biden, on national telivision has stuck up for white nationalists, defended segregated schools and busses, and touched children inappropriately during photo shoots that were caught on film.
If you think I could, in good faith, vote for that, then you don't know the first thing about Christianity... or the DNC.
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@ponikshiy
What was you all's opinion of Trump?
Do you guys think he was a Russian agent there or do you laugh off those claims?
Also, what do you all think of Biden? Do you all see him as an incompetent oaf or a great leader? Do you believe he has dementia?
Also, do the citizens of Russia see themselves as waging war against an imperialist United States?
Do you guys view the CIA and WEF as imperialist organizations encroaching on Russia or is all of this just hirseshit that Americans are told Russians care about?
I am sure there are manifold views there, but I'd love to hear what the Russians actually think without some bullshit propagandized filter on it.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Are you going to claim this is a democratic conspiracy to undermine Jordan.?
I already made my claims perfectly clear. My stance is that we don't have any proof he turned a blind eye or that he didn't know.
It's hard to convict someone without evidence if you aren't a Democrat.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Believe what you want.
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@Double_R
actually evidence sufficient to warrant an investigation.
Not according to Horowitz and Mueller, but whatevs.
In the case of Biden, we have leaked phone calls, financial records, and witness testimony.
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@IlDiavolo
To answer honestly: Trump.
I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this. But here is my case:
In his 4 years as President, he significantly crippled a global terrorist group (ISIS), got unprecedented peace agreements in the Middle East via the Abraham Accords, got NATO to begin paying for their own defense again, negotiated a new North Atlantic Treaty agreement that benefitted the United States, was the first President to set foot in North Korea and be greeted by Kim Jong Un, was the reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine, and was also the first President to enter the Forbidden City in China.
That is a lot to make the history books alone right there.
But his economic policy, pre-COVID (2016-2019), was also phenomenal. Wages, for the first time in 30ish years, actually surpassed inflation, Black and Hispanic unemployment hit 50-year historic lows, average income hit all-time highs, and inflation was normal, maybe slightly high. The dollar's purchasing power was high, we had hundreds of billions of dollars of investments from foreign countries, and gas was extremely low. We were also energy independent for the first time in decades.
Trump's fatal flaw was the lockdowns. It completely wrecked everything he spent 3 years building. But he has said he would not do it again.
So why wouldn't I want to elect the guy who did all that into office again?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
From the article:
Jordan, who was assistant wrestling coach at the university from 1986 to 1994, has repeatedly said he knew nothing of the abuse until former students began speaking out this spring, and continued to deny it on Tuesday. His denials, however, have been met with skepticism and anger from some former members of the wrestling team.
Could he have turned a blind eye? Sure.
Could he also have not known? Also sure.
You can't just rush to judgement based on an article from NBC News. They have been known to print blatant falsehoods such as the Golden State Warriors deciding not to visit the White House.
My point isn't that Jordan is innocent. It is that we can't just run with things without getting all the facts first, especially from spurious news outlets.
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