GnosticChristianBishop

IOW, we place morals above God.

This is why we reject your genocidal hero and his inquisition using ways.

I guess you do not care about your moral soul.

Ignore me again.

Fuck off.

Are you a bot? Not a good one.

Yet you adore a genocidal prick of a God.

Explain please.

Not the fucking issue.

Thanks for deflecting.

BTW. Love was his main issue as well as teaching us that we are Gods and should hate the genocidal version of God.

I worked it out. I am now in.  Thanks.

Wow. You know what God is thinking.

You are way to good for my poor brain.

Seems that we are done.

A pity you do not or could not form any moral arguments and just like to opine.

 

Oh well.

Can a genocidal prick be seen as a savior?

Can Hitler or Stalin be called saviors?

Ya. That means in our minds and imagination.

The Gnostics are right.

Supernatural belief is a dead end.

First dibs on forgiving belongs too the victim. Right?

Your God is a genocidal prick.

If you ever want to chat about him, instead of lie, let me know.

Another bot like bit of garbage.

Do you even read replies?

You are useless to me so far and are more bot than human.

I can't join for some reason.

When you wish to discuss your immoral messianic concepts, I am here for you.

Hmm. Nothing on what I put. 

Quite a style and waste of time.

Those are not blaming words. They are a question.

The answer would have been, because I do not exist in some supernatural realm or liars paradise. 

Spiritually speaking, a good God would have answered, because your messianic concept is completely immoral.

It is never good to knowingly punish the innocent instead of the guilty. Right?

If wrong, let us see your argument for it.

God must be spirit if God is to exist both inside and outside of us, omnipresent, as Jesus says he does.

Remember pet rocks? A God beneath each one.

Seriously though. A Gnostic Christian can kind of see, or not see, the imagined divide. We can indisputably see the evolving perfection of matter, so imagining the perfection of the all is easy.

Where did you get that quoted bit?

I agree with you, in a sense,  but I do not see where I said that.

Overall, I disagree because you ignored that forgiveness is to the victim first and not to some genocidal and evil God who no one can possibly hurt.

If you ignore my points and let the notions live with deflections, we will not chat much. 

On breaking our relationship from God.

Yahweh condemned us to death for our sins as our just rewards.

If we accept or allow Jesus to be our savior and reverse that just reward, are we doing an injustice? 

????

You mean completing our duty to Yahweh to sin. 

You forget your Exsultet hymn that names Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. 

Are you saying you would refrain from sin and screw up God's plan?

Psalm 51:5 "Surely I wassinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

Do your duty, sin, and reap the rewards of death.

Islam, like Christianity, do get rather stupid when going into the supernatural, to the point of having God not creating all souls perfect. Islam even codifies that goof in God by saying women are lower than men by a degree, whatever that means to Islam.

If I was their God, I would be pissed. Rather faithless of the faithful that.

As I said, they should have stayed more like the older Greek/Jewish Chrestianity and kept Jesus just as a good man and not some part of a genocidal God who fathers himself with his own mother.

Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it?I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of strivingfor excellence.

At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickednessbut about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditionsacknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felixculpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’splan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this ideais clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.

To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks andinevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and tryingagain—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’repushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our bestpossible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at everypoint in our lives. 

Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competitionhighlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and wherewe want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging usto improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feellike failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, everyloss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.

This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embraceof imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we wouldhave no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, noinnovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.

I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancientscribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is notsomething to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is theevidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.

So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinnerin the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better versionof yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.

First dibs on forgiving belongs too the victim. Right?

Jesus was the victim here and not Yahweh. That right and duty to forgive was to Jesus , not the father.

"God wants us to be tame other than in defense of ourselves and others."

Jesus is said to return with Armageddon. 

Same old genocidal Yahweh.

Moses tried what you suggest and was denied the promised land for refusing to smash more heads of babies against rocks.

Nice that Jewry still put's man above God.

I see both Christianity and Islam as poor offshoots to the older, man above God traditions, that are still maintained by Jewry.

Like Jesus dis, I ask you, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods?

Go fuck yourself and your genocidal garbage God.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discussevents; small minds discuss people.

Do not be so small minded.

"being as Bible Stupid as you are "

This is typical. Criticize, without showing what is being criticized or spoken of. 

Grow your puny mind and then perhaps we will both know what you are talking about.

That is our best end, right?

Are you now working for your best possible end at this point in time?

When did you begin doing that?

IDK how low in a baby's age the research can go.

Size, indeed matters.

I have a friend who married the wrong size and it ruined her life both mentally and physically.

When love ignores size, shrug?

As to satisfaction in sex by anyone, male or female, research shows that orgasm begins in the mind, and that it can be triggered regardless of size, shape or location of friction.

In fact, contact or friction is not required for orgasm.

We can all squeeze one out without it.

I am not into such dumbness and seek smart people.

There are a lot of intelligent people here but few smart ones. Here, intelligent I mean as ability to learn and smart as the ability to apply what is learned.

If you see the concept of the O.P. in you, you will see it in all, and know that all here are the best thinkers they can be given their history. This is irrefutable.

My DNA is strange too.

My only complaint is a somewhat oversized but still usable dick.

I don't know if I like being this smart either.

It's lonely at the top.

That is what I gave.

Perhaps it is not that important to us, at that level as our other instincts are at play.

We are all expressed by our DNA and chemistry.

Do you see the instincts expressed/produced by a younger baby as a part of self awareness?

I would argue that it is, as we default to cooperation and love/suckling, and not hate/biting the tit. Way before your estimate.

 

If you can believe in your real beginning, you will knowthyself.

 Knowing thyself is said to be the main way of gainingknowledge. 

I took my wife time travelling, mentally that is, the othernight, from our present time, down to where she first became aware of herselfas alive.  Her “I am” moment. 

At her present time, I had her admit that she was workingtowards her best possible end to her life. Just as I and all those who are readingthis do. We do this perpetually and constantly.

I then had her follow her timeline back to her beginning,having to admit that her best end was always her prime focus, as it is with alllife. Amendment. She agreed to all times except for the “I am”. I don’t knowwhat to make of this lack of logic after following a plain logic trail. Thisaside.

 “I am”, read that as “you and I”, is quite selfish.Universal this in life.  

Some thank God. I thank nature and my God, I am, should he/Iend in being real.

We are all expressed by our DNA and chemistry. It produces amaterial dualism that has most of us thinking in a body soul way. 95%.

What is the best end to our bodies, given that our DNA istelling us we are the best of breed?

 

Read that as King or Queen, or Alpha/Beta in our physicalanimal reality. 

What is the best end for our bodies and souls is that weshould try to become leaders of humans?

He says while not feeling the criminal's hand in his pocket.

Regards

DL

Seriously?

You have not noticed all the tax dodging going on,  which creates a tax shortfall, that the honest tax payer  must fill.

Have you heard the term, money laundering? That money is what the honest tax payer pays tax on.

Regards

DL

The criminal element lose the ability to have you pay their share of taxes.

If they wanted fair, they would be doing fair without us having to force them to.

Regards

DL

Everyone will never like any tax system.

The criminal element will always hate a world bank and fair tax system.

We honest people should demand such a system instead of the criminal pampering money laundering banks of today.

Regards

DL

Rev 4;11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Connect the dots.

Is Satan divine for initiating knowledge of reproduction in us? 

This poorly titled clip gives some of the learned logic of Eden as a coming-of-age yarn.   

The only fault I see is his thinking Satan to be male when she is obviously female for both reality and elsewhere. 

Check the Exsultet hymn to confirm this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvmbBYtOAk 

Satan, like Jesus, has been named as a bringer of light in the bible. 

Should we continue with biblical logic and name Satan divine? 

Remembering the duality always shown in scriptures, ----- Is Satan the Yin to Jesus as Yang?

I know God knows to venerate life, and knows that Satan is the key that opens that door.

I will answer for her in a way that will have you name her divine and do as scriptures bid you do. 

Recognize the Jewish concept of Original Virtue as coming out of Eden.  

Recognize the twist in language and interpretations, as Christians sing that sin is a happy fault and necessary to God and nature.  Opposite word, original sin, and original virtue, saying the same thing. 

All initiated by the bringer of light, Satan. 

Regards

DL

God hates sin?????

Christians venerate sin.

Do you not sing in your own Exsultet hymn, that Adam's sin is a happy fault and necessary to God's plan?

Your bible says that God created evil for his pleasure. Read your lousy book.

Regards

DL

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowinggood and evil;

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what isgood.

Your higher power is telling you to put your/our brains into gear and guide ourselves.

The idol worship of the evil Yahweh/Jesus twins is not a good idea.

Are you thinking that they are somehow good, given past genocides and the pending Armageddon mass murder?

Regards

DL

Cashless is not necessary, but more convenient.

With modern tech, it is more profitable to go cashless.

You may not trust your government to make the right choices, but I trust the collective governments.

Regards

DL

The world is wealthier everywhere, and remains under the control of a few rich people.

You seem to think that a one world bank and government would communize/equalize the world.

It would never do so. We all recognize that we want and live in social and wealth hierarchies. 

Communism, I agree, is a foolish notion.

Regards

DL

So are all registered and or licenced companies. 

A government presently controls the banking laws.

The only change is that all the governments will have to agree for the benefits of a too big to bust bank.

Regards

DL

Correct, and we can have one that excludes poverty, given how wealthy we collectively are.

Regards

DL

My bank does nothing to raise or lower my trust in my government, even when my government changes hands.

I would not expect a world bank to do so either.

My bank, like a world bank , would tracks my transactions and reported wealth as per your untrusted government.

It should not be called upon to do more, unless all member are in agreement.

Regards

DL

Like you. My own.

I follow that good scriptural advice.

Do you not know how you think morally and make choices?

Many Christians do not, given their choice of God.

Regards

DL