Total posts: 1,485
Posted in:
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
I admit your FOS on me is some damn good anaylsis. But it's too good for your own good.
Like I said right there in my vote, town shouldn't over think if it can help it. Because what grey claimed was objectively scummy, and if you let scummers do scummy thinks and excuse it for "oh it's just retardation/WIFOM" then you're just letting scum get away with doing scummy things, which hinders actual scum hunting. I don't look past layer one WIFOM unless there is a compelling non-WIFOM reason to do so.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@SirAnonymous
No, there are any number of possibilities, such as Cap-aligned heroes vs. Iron Man-aligned heroes.
Ok and in this scenario where does that put Zemo? TP at BEST. always lynch TP.
And you had to think that these "other" thematic possibilities are VERY likely in order to just come out and defend Grey like that. There is no reason to believe that UNLESS you have inside knowledge before hand that bad guys could go town/good guys could be scum.
In Speed's earlier game (The MCU Heroes game DD linked), all the characters were heroes.
Yeah that's cause the word "heroes" is literally in the title of the game.
Created:
Posted in:
VTL SirA
Why would you say this:
No, antagonist doesn't have to be scum.
???
This was before speed outed that there is no thematic split. Any sane person would have assumed that bad guys = scum, like the way it is in the vast majority of themed games where there is an obvious good vs evil split.
Created:
Posted in:
Claimed
Greyparrot - Helmut Zemo - Suicidal
Supa - Steve Rogers - Lover with Bucky
Singularity - Bucky - Lover with Steve
Unclaimed
WaterPhoenix
SirAnonymous
Ragnar
Discipulus_Didicit
drafterman
ILikePie5 - "a role"
oromagi
Lunatic
warren42
Bullish - aligns with cap in the movie
Created:
Posted in:
Scum would be more likely to know before hand that there is no thematic split, since they'll consist of a variety of characters with no justification as to why they're scum. I'll reread the DP with that in mind.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
agree completely. The line of thinking supa and single went down is ridiculous.There is nothing saying the game can't, in fact, be [UNbalanced].
It's possible they're doing some insane scum gambit, but for now I'm inclined to think they're town.
Created:
Posted in:
I hate to use mod psych again on an inexperienced mod but grey is semi-confirmed, or else why would speed just come out and say "there's no theme split."
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
THERE IS NO THEME SPLITMy bad
the fuck? ok then
UNVOTE
Created:
Posted in:
Let's claim which side of Captain America: Minor Airport Skirmish you're on.
I am on the side of cap.
Created:
Posted in:
VTL Grey
don't over think. Antagonist = scum.
Let's end the DP in 5 pages or less go go go
Created:
-->
@Speedrace
Just start the DP bruh I will fight all these fuckers I don't care if we know our roles or not.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
Actually the DP1 mass prez claim could be avoided simply by having 1 more mafia. This way eve if town figured out who all 3 mafia are, they wouldn't be able to lynch them before all the mafia die. Especially since all the town are BP, 6-3 would be a lot more balanced than 7-2 anyway.
The problem is still that the game could end prematurely, and it's almost impossible to reach LyLo. But I suppose it could be a worthy sacrifice once in a while as a novelty game.
Created:
Posted in:
That set up is too swingy. What if the mafia NKs the president on NP1?
Here are some scenarios:
- only 2 bodyguards who knows who the president is (or X bodyguards where X is equal to the number of mislynches minus 1). You could make it so that if both bodyguards guard the president, they both die. No one else except scum know who the prez is.
- 1 bodyguard and the prez is BP. No one else know who the prez is.
- the prez is declared as IC, and everyone is bodyguard, except for scum, who are fake bodyguard.
Created:
That was some meet up yall, really brings me back to the good times.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
I forgot to mention this but lunatic, you should know
My NP4 results were actually "godfather | VANILLA | doctor," but I lied and said "godfather | HATED TOWNIE | doctor" because I had a strong enough PoE and behaviour read on you that I would have lynched you anyway.
I always appreciate scum who pretend really hard to scum hunt, but I think you dropped a couple of minor scum tells that I was willing to lynch you.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
and what was with that "I'm not getting lynched" BS, I thought you were softclaiming lynchproof or something
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
I didn't sign up for ur game because idk what survivor is and this game was too intense for me. Nothing against u
Also u have to realize that I didn't try to lynch u just because of the emoji shit
Created:
Posted in:
How did I save town from mislynches bruh literally every single one of my votes was on town except Lunatic. U sure ur not confusing me with someone else?
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Vader
Supa you can't go around confirming unique non-standardized roles in public. You gotta be able to find it on at least one of the common sites like Mafiascum, epicmafia, town-of-salem, or drafter's role list before you tell everyone how it works in public. And even then you have to be sure or have a solid precedent of using a role like that.
Modding isn't just about sending out PMs and doing the vote count, it can be tough some times. You just have to think about all the consequences of your actions before you do them.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
Cut him some slack TUF I just dug up that game where you did the same.
Created:
Posted in:
I was literally "the special needs kid" for most of the game
Created:
Posted in:
Why am I mvp lmao I played like shit until DP3, but even then I played like trash until DP5
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
I'm talking about this: https://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/47262/16#1658876
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
TUF, reminds me of the mod slip you made on DDO about Judas LMAO
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Vader
How about this,Explaining roles isn't bad modding. I'll explain later
Supa, hypothetically, how would the ENCHANTER role work in one of your mafia games?
Created:
Posted in:
hey yall I hate to take advantage of this twice, but I'm role confirmed.
A COMEDIAN from drafter's role list works like this:
You are the COMEDIAN. Each night you may visit another player. That player will receive a "joke" that contains a lit of three roles and the name of a player that has one of those roles.
If I was fake claiming comedian, I would claim it like that.
But I claimed right off the bat that my role works differently, EXACTLY as supa described in his comment:
A comedian works as followsA ___ , a ______, and a ________ walk into a bar, (user) is one of the thoseThey get the message
Combined with the fact that I claimed EVEN night right off the bat with an EVEN night scum RB, I'm as good as confirmed.
Created:
Posted in:
Out of drafter, speed, and water, water is my weakest town read, and all my reads on him are from DP1.
I don't have a read on Pie, but hes role confirmed, copped inno, and we know he can't be godfather and there's probably no mafia lawyer.
I went back and re-read water's reaction to being accused. He's way too passive about sussing Single back. I was think the whole day it could have been a bus.
Created:
Posted in:
Yeah I'm role confirmed. Why would I claim EVEN night comedian, just happen to be the ONLY even night power role, and Single just HAPPENS to be EVEN night double RB?
Created:
Posted in:
With oro dying that fucks up my scum team.
There's gotta be 1 more scum in
2. Drafterman
3. WaterPhoenix
4. SpeedRace
6. iLikePie5
But I clear drafter, water, and speed on town behaviour reads, and Pie is role confirmed.
Unless it really is a 2 mafia scum team and a TP?
If the TP is a survivor then we're good, we joint win. Might be since there haven't been any SK kills.
Created:
Posted in:
lynch luna today, no-lynch tomorrow, I can get 1 more set of results.
Mafia can't kill me because im their best mislynch.
Created:
In this project, we use deep learning to detect deception through online conversations in the interaction-based party game Mafia. We present various neural network frameworks (LSTM, bidirectional LSTM, CNN) to generate predictions of deceptive text. The results of this paper suggest the capability of neural network architectures to effectively detect deception in the Mafia setting, and offer qualitative analysis in agreement with current deception research findings.
We have trained tensorflow frameworks based on unidirectional LSTM, bidirectional LSTM, as well as CNN, that successfully perform deception detection on online Mafia game interactions using the Mafiascum dataset [3]. All three models performed above baseline accuracy (81.6%), with 88.8% (unidirectional LSTM), 94.7% (bidirectional LSTM), and 94.9% (CNN). This suggests that deeplearning techniques may be able to effectively identify linguistic cues that signal deception.
Emphasis mine
This is a relatively recent paper (March 18, 2019). I wonder how this compares against good players here.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
Cause then the players sussing me won't be distracted and waste a lynch on me.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
Actually it does cause if we lynch Single and he turns out to be town, then canonically we all get NK'd.Us lynching Singularity doesn't change your chances of being NKd lol
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
No he claimed he was told he died because the mod forgot he was BP
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
But there's a chance it COULD be useful info.Plus, what if Supa just decides to put their claim into your roles. Boom, useless info
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Speedrace
But killing me is good cause some people here are still sussing me, so that's 1 less mislynch target
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@Lunatic
He can't claim RB he was never dreamer in the first place
Why would you even say he was RB'd unless you RB'd him, he's literally BP.
Also my role is not a visit so traditionally it shouldn't even be RBable.
Created:
Posted in:
-->
@drafterman
Ok but I'm a player in the game and it'll inform me going forward.
Created: