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@FLRW
Hitler or Kamalabla?
False dilemma. You can hyphenate, or use one as the first name and the other as the last.
If going with the second option, I suggest also photoshopping Hitler’s mustache onto her (works wonders with Michelle Obama)… Oh and anytime anyone accuses you of using photoshop, just claim your pictures are the only non-photoshopped ones.
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@Greyparrot
How the hell do you remember these things.
I don’t… I was looking for a different old topic I had started, and the preview of this one had that bit about dogs.
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I’ve started a little project which will make this relevant again.
I don’t want to spill the beans just yet, but I could really use some more best of the best debates to look at.
Dat’s all I’ve got to say right now.
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I'm a speciesist. This is evident by my consumption of cows, but not of dogs.
It is quite strange how some jokes age…
But yes, as an immigrant I must have lied about my exclusionist behavior towards dogs…
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@badger
GP I remember that pic of you and your son. You were a lard ass among lard asses and he was a dweeby four-eyes. The fuck are you talking about T levels for, you're a hermaphroditic whale.
Whatever else is going on here, leave his family out of it.
Also if he didn’t post picture in this thread, then you’re risking targeted harassment.
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Date: 9/6/2024
Moderator: Barney
Moderator: Barney
IwantRooseveltAgain has been banned for 30 days for targeted harassment.
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@Greyparrot
Took me a moment to catch the joke. Well played!
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Seems weird that so many are “pro-life” without first being pro quality of life.
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@Best.Korea
While this is such a niche bit of the net, it is also unique in the value proposition.
There's several of us on the various discords, usually very low activity levels, but a nice place to stop in now and again.
I know a lot of banned members are on DebateIsland.com
They're basically a really nice comment section for a debate, minus the debate.
Due to their mass spam, and deceptive practices (they promise the moon but don't even know what to sky looks like), I will not be caught dead there.
Reddit doesn't feel like it has the options to host formal web debates. To my understanding, it's just a forum, which would suit most members but not the debaters.
I'm inspired and anti-inspired by EDeb8.com, as it is meant to be the perfect platform, but I suppose in processing power couldn't do it? Plus they're great at coding, I'm an amateur, if I tried to build a formal debate site it would fall well short of their offerings and I would not know how to fix whatever glitches creep up if it even got that far.
I do have one idea cooking in my brain, but it'd be very different to say the least, and I doubt it could foster any community like this. However, it might serve as methamphetamines to the heroine that is formal web debating.
I'll add that with advancing technology, I do not see a future in formal web debating as we knew it.
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@Best.Korea
Admittedly being a cynic, but I advise backing up any data you may wish to look back on later:
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@Greyparrot
We may not post such links, even if it's a public figure. As previously stated:
do not point to the URL of any site hosting said nudes. I.e., you can Google dirty pictures of a certain purple dinosaur, but saying they're at https://www.XXX.PurpleDinosuar is crossing the line (even if not posted outright as a link).
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@Greyparrot
@FLRW
@Best.Korea
I've posted the issue the moderation discord for review, so more may follow. I will however give more immediate feedback...
Jude 1:7 Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.You can see more nude pictures of Melania on ____________.com
- Melania as a public figure is not protected by the CoC. Were she a site member, this would be an automatic permanent ban (doxxing someone's real name, that they posed nude, and where to find said photos).
- While I am not endorsing telling anyone to look up nudes, but if it ever must be done, do not point to the URL of any site hosting said nudes. I.e., you can Google dirty pictures of a certain purple dinosaur, but saying they're at https://www.XXX.PurpleDinosuar is crossing the line (even if not posted outright as a link).
- The above does not apply to PMs, but consent still does. Sending not requested links to any nudes, is basically the same as sending dick pics. To post those links on the forum, is equivalent to airdropping it.
- Please do not argue over if any nudie photos are "explicit adult sexual material" or not. Some phrasing doesn't need to be explicit for the see-through intent.
- I've checked and double checked, but I cannot find said photos within the biblical book of Jude. That whole book will forever be a disappointment now.
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@WyIted
some asshole told me how season 4 of Dexter ended
Good show for awhile there. I hope the new one lives up to the early seasons... But always weird when there's a true destined end point for the characters.
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Alien Romulus was really good.
There were of course flaws, but it was really nice to see the series have a story told after Aliens…
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Date: 8/25/24
Moderator: Barney
Moderator: Barney
Shila has been banned for one month for the August 2024 incursion of the Silent Majority, which is to say an en mass spam necro-posting; and responding to requests to cease with more necro-posting.
The occasional necro-post is an inactionable offense, but the scale of their chosen actions makes it highly actionable.
Excessive necro-posting fits the site's definition of spam.
Usually spam (saving for ad spam), would net at most a 10 day ban, but that was written with a much lower amount of it in mind; such as if someone created too many threads of the same topic their thread creation privileges could be revoked.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I commend you in your efforts to ensure no straw man is lonely, but rather has whole families of straw people.
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This is all quite applicable to debating.
There have of course been times when I lost track of it.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
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Trump deserves the Olympic gold medal for mental gymnastics…
I think I’ve cited that very case in a debate about if he’s racist or not. Contextually, he was calling for the death penalty for those young men, something I guarantee he would not have done if they were white… I make that guarantee, because that’s what crusty old white men in positions of power have done. Death penalty for blacks but as low as six months for whites who commit the same crime (not even counting the literal lynchings of innocent men).
All that said, Trump at least seemed to genuinely believe their guilt when he called for their deaths. It’s a base emotional reaction, amplified by racism, but it’s not evil in it of itself. The police and the prosecution framed them, and frankly did a good job of it. That Trump cannot accept he got tricked says many negative things about his poor mental functioning now, but when he ran the ad he was just of mediocre mental ability.
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@Lunatic
Oddly not yet. I will in next night or two .
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Put me down as a backup.
Also Alien nerd here… The reason the original trilogy feels so odd, is Alien 3 was actually just Alien 2. Like literally. They decided to save a few bucks by using an already purchased Alien 2 script, rather than ever making a sequel to Aliens (we nearly got one made by Neill Blomkamp, but it fizzled in early pre-production)
That said, the unused non-CGI monster effects for Alien 3 are worth looking up. I’m cracking the whip here, they’ll make your day!
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Hall of Fame V
This year the winners were decreased to two per category, in addition to merging miscellaneous and threads so as to be more inclusive while not diluting the HoF. Due to a continuous stalemate on tied runner-up's, three users were still inducted.
Pursuant to the third Hall of Fame election process, the following are inducted into the DebateArt.com Hall of Fame:
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WyIted (formerly Wylted... there's an i now)
165 IQ, ex-President of DART, the guy your mother warned you not to hang around with... He's that guy. Homophobic, misogynistic, racist and worst of all a good family man and Christian, this is Wylted.He's apparently funny too, you'd need to hide your wife from him but he's a devout Christian and would never cheat unless it's with Salma Hayek, God allows all men 1 exception, or more as Trump would say.He will get you riled up in all kinds of ways, you can never tell what he'll do next... Well you can tell it will seem stupid until it's not.At first that's your guy, Wylted. Eventually that's your fear, Wylted. Finally, you feel something down there, that's your d- *censored by avid first amendment supporting anti-corporation private military corporation, Ponikshiy Inc.*-RationalMadman
Lemming
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zedvictor4
A proud father, a fan of the cycling cardio machine and an ever-present landmark of the website.Zedvictor4 is a casual poster so you may wonder why he is in the hall of fame. The fact of the matter is that he has the 6th highest post count but 2nd-most likes from posts.He tends to stick 'down the middle' of most issues and offer an almost poetic way of revealing how both sides of things are futile yet isn't exactly pure-neutral when it comes to site users.It's safe to say you don't read zedvictor's posts to be highly stimulated but to chill out and go 'oh so that's the middleground approach I didn't think of' before taking your side and fighting your adversaries in the forums that represents the other side.-RationalMadman
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The exploration of such a taboo subject, when done as well as it is here, is incredibly educational; which is the pinnacle of what debates ought to be.Pro was quite successful in his clear goal of getting the audience to question the status quo on drugs, and he proved that better education would decrease drug death. However, his case highlights the problems of scope creep and interdependencies. Education was not the topic, and can be done independently of legalization. Legalization was the topic, and with so much focus on the other, its success seemed dependent on education.Con showed how concise a good argument can be, with it growing shorter each round. He even brought up date-rape drugs, to which pro had zero defense for their legalization. While giving proper credit, he excellently quote mined authoritative sources on the topic, such that only about half his characters limit were his own words. And he (figuratively) ended the debate on a rare mic drop, having only a single line of arguments in the final round.-Barney
-- Misc.--
This year there is no stand-alone forum category, rather it is combined into a catch-all for what is outside of general user or debate excellence.
If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here.
This whole thread started because spam threads were outlawed... it serves the same function as a spam thread, but you have to think of a thought in order to post something. So it's able to continue on without mods ruining it, because it isn't a spam thread.I think this thread is a great piece of site culture. And I think it's closer in terms of content to the "Record Attempt at Most Posts" thread from DDO than the DART version that got put on read-only.-MHarman
Rap Battle: Sir.Lancelot vs RationalMadman
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Conclusion
This concludes the induction announcement. Congratulations to all those inducted!
P.S.: Sorry for the delay... Again.
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@Earth
That’s a dumb statement.
Town or scum, does not decide how busy I’ve been with real life stuff.
Town or scum, does not decide how busy I’ve been with real life stuff.
Granted, if I had any game changing magic insights, I’d be telling people to hold off voting while I write them down. I’ve got the general impressions and analysis anyone else should have.
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If you’d all like, I take do the hammer. I’ll give some final reads, and you’ll have plenty of got days remaining to find the remaining scum.
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@ILikePie5
As written by the xenomorph queen (seriously, first thing that came to mind):
Hiss...
You are the Hunter of the Hive, the first of your kind to rise to power among the lesser beings. Your name echoes through the corridors of their history—Barack Obama. The humans tremble at the memory of your ascendancy, marking it as a momentous occasion, as if you were a queen taking her throne in the chamber of the stars.
This election, a battle that shall never be forgotten, signified your dominance. You were awarded their precious trinket, the Nobel Peace Prize, for bringing unity to their fragmented nest.
As the Protector of the Hive, you choose one of your brood each night to shield from the lurking threats, ensuring their survival until the dawn of victory. Your loyalty lies with the town, the collective, and you shall fight to see it thrive. Victory belongs to those who serve the greater good, and you shall lead them to it with the might of a true queen.
Roar of triumph...
You are the Hunter of the Hive, the first of your kind to rise to power among the lesser beings. Your name echoes through the corridors of their history—Barack Obama. The humans tremble at the memory of your ascendancy, marking it as a momentous occasion, as if you were a queen taking her throne in the chamber of the stars.
This election, a battle that shall never be forgotten, signified your dominance. You were awarded their precious trinket, the Nobel Peace Prize, for bringing unity to their fragmented nest.
As the Protector of the Hive, you choose one of your brood each night to shield from the lurking threats, ensuring their survival until the dawn of victory. Your loyalty lies with the town, the collective, and you shall fight to see it thrive. Victory belongs to those who serve the greater good, and you shall lead them to it with the might of a true queen.
Roar of triumph...
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Since that's probably useless, here's as written by president Obama:
Let me be clear,
You are the election of 2008, a turning point in American history. You were the first-ever African American to be elected President of the United States. The name associated with this momentous occasion? Barack Obama. The significance of this election cannot be overstated—it was a symbol of hope, change, and the belief that America could heal and move forward together.
So impactful was this moment that you were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, not just for leading a campaign, but for embodying the spirit of unity and reconciliation that this nation so desperately needed.
As the protector of the people, you have a responsibility. Each night, you may choose one individual to safeguard from harm, ensuring that they see the light of a new day. Your mission is to win with the town, to stand together, to work together, and to ensure that in the end, justice and hope prevail.
Thank you, and God bless.
You are the election of 2008, a turning point in American history. You were the first-ever African American to be elected President of the United States. The name associated with this momentous occasion? Barack Obama. The significance of this election cannot be overstated—it was a symbol of hope, change, and the belief that America could heal and move forward together.
So impactful was this moment that you were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, not just for leading a campaign, but for embodying the spirit of unity and reconciliation that this nation so desperately needed.
As the protector of the people, you have a responsibility. Each night, you may choose one individual to safeguard from harm, ensuring that they see the light of a new day. Your mission is to win with the town, to stand together, to work together, and to ensure that in the end, justice and hope prevail.
Thank you, and God bless.
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@ILikePie5
When I’m on my laptop this evening I’ll knock that out for you. Any particular theme you’d like me to have it redo the PM as?
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@ILikePie5
Smooth job self confirming your role.
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We’re far enough ahead that it’d be highly statistically improbable for us to lose.
I’m 2008, doctor for Obama healing America. Last night I attempted to protect Austin. Obviously the protection didn’t work.
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Was on the road most of yesterday, and visiting friends and (hopefully) touring apartments today.
As per usual, I admit I am fairly useless DP1. I'll try to make up for it DP2 and onward.
Still, I'll make an effort to check in.
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Sweet, I'm the song America F*** Yeah!
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GG everyone.
I got killed for the very most minor of breadcrumbs, and that was mentioning that my role and character name went together. I knew mafia had a list, and didn’t think about how many people would out their characters.
Before that I did make a tactical choice of killing a fellow townie lightly, since it was inevitable, and it’d hurt my town cred to keep me safe (which as we saw, did not work out)
I did rightly choose whiteflame to investigate… There’s been games where I take full credit for properly identifying scum in R1, but this was not the case here. It was a cost/benefit analysis of who to clear and who would be worst for us as scum.
I don’t think whiteflame talked too much in the final round (as much as I only scummed the earlier ones). I probably would have silenced Austin, killed Wylted, and assumed Wyited of doing projection and gaslighting. The one problem would have proved to be the more it’s talked about, the more Catholic would vote against it.
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@Casey_Risk
AOTBE, lynch the Miller. And it's not even equal with a hint of a made up PM.
VTL Casey_Risk
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@AustinL0926
That could be Chat GPT slimming it down.
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@AustinL0926
Why is Barney town again?
Because I'm so fat, that I am the town!
But seriously, there's no particular reason to assume I'm town. I'll prove it or I won't in future day phases.
And yes, I am quite open about being fairly useless DP1. I mean I often do the dashboard, but others seem to have it well in hand.
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@CatholicApologetics
I am the Class Bully, the other kids are afraid and won't go near me. As a result, I am a Paranoid Gun Owner. If anybody tries to visit me throughout the night, they will be killed (apart from the Mafia).
Apologies if you've already answered this...
What is the reason for the modifier? Normally PGOs just murder anyone who comes to their door. If you're legit, this may shed light onto the theme split.
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@ILikePie5
I think JoeBob is likely town based on that claim. Even before the game started, I figured that Jock would likely be in it.I think this actually a scum slip. How did Casey know Jock would be in the game before it started? Moozer made no mention of what the theme would be besides middle school. How does that translate into student stereotypes and further into Jock. Am I missing something?
Actually a good point. The jock stereotype doesn't hit until high school. Whereas some others go away by then.
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@Casey_Risk
I’m here to clean up this mess and win with the Town.See that? 'Town' is capitalized. Everyone else, is town capitalized in your role pm? It isn't in mine.
That’s only valid if they copy pasted, which would be a lot more work than writing that simple sentence. If written upper or lower is a stylistic preference.
Incidentally, mine is lower case. Kinda want to claim it’s reverse caps of tOWN (because I own the school?) but no, just boring lower case.
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@Casey_Risk
We don't even KNOW why Pie trusts Barney,
Haven’t read everything, but I’d guess it’s a gut read based on me sticking to my MO.
Of course, never trust anyone until the endgame.
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@JoeBob
Anyways I'm a groundskeeper Willie, once per night I may restock the paper towels. In the event of zombies, I may pat the dirt back into placehow would you get the zombies back into the dirt if they got out
Just asked the game host, and you wouldn’t, instead you’d just pat the dirt back into place to make it pretty as a picture again in a loop.
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You’re the closest anyone came to believing that claim, and since mafia have a character list, I’m leaning town on you.
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Oh for others, yes, I’m a student. And my name tells my power.
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For anyone eating crayons, I’m totally Willie; there’s one of him at every school didn’t you know? Anyways just some thoughts for you to chew on, and if you run out of thoughts here’s something else: 🖍️
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@Owen_T
I'll be traveling tomorrow, so excuse the inactivity. I'll be as active as I can.
Everyone quick, we can get him while he can't defend himself!
/joke (obviously)
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Scum knows all the characters in the game, but not the roles or who has them.
While it's an advantage, it's by no means an overwhelming one.
Anyways I'm a groundskeeper Willie, once per night I may restock the paper towels. In the event of zombies, I may pat the dirt back into place.
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I’m down as a backup, but I’ve got too much else going on to promise close to the expected activity level.
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@WyIted
Gross... I think I got some in my eye!
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Combat veteran here...
I'm opposed to the draft, so I try to not pass judgement on that issue. It is of course worthy of some mockery, I just wouldn't raise that to the level of determining for whom to vote.
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@WyIted
-->@<<<Barney>>>@whiteflame@ILikePie5Just forewarning. I am not sure how this is going to turn out, but I am not going to comply with a moderator request to blur RMs username in my most recent youtube video.I would gladly blur his name if he personally asked me to and came at me in a respectful way, but he attempted to get his way by bullying, instead of through more diplomatic means. So I will not comply. I wish you guys all the best, if this does not turn out well, and if the mods make that decision, do not protest it. They are doing their best and we just disagree with something.
As whiteflame has said, there has been zero discussion of any bans, nor does any part of the situation merit such discussions.
Enjoy your game of Mafia.
P.S. I saw ILikePie5 vent!
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