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@whiteflame
Our votes are private I believe, so how do we know who was voting for Casey?
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Ok, someone please bring me up to speed.
If I understand correctly, we have no way to know how the game is going?
BTW, I'm effectively vanilla. Vader had a power, which he used up. I don't know if it helped the game in any way or not.
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@WyIted
This place won't be the same without you.
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Ok, one day into voting here are the tallies!
Users:
- Savant - 8 (#3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #10, #11, #12)
- ILikePie5 - 6 (#5, #6, #8, #10, #11, #12)
- Lunatic - 5 (#3, #5, #8, #11, #12)
- Novice_II - 3 (#3, #7, #8)
Debates:
- baggins vs. Sidewalker - 1 (#5)
- McMieky vs. Mieky - 0 ()
Other:
- ILikePie5 - US Governors Mafia - 4 (#3 #5, #8, #11)
- Swagnarok - Belated Defense of UnitedHealthCare - 3 (#5, #8, #11)
- WyIted - Diary Mafia - 2 (#3, #8)
- ADOL - Beastiality - 2 (#3, #11)
- Mall - Watch Me Debate Live 1 (#5)
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@Savant
❤️❤️❤️
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For me votes,
Users:
Honorable mention to Novice_II, while indeed a skilled debater (in spite of the repeated ribbing I gave him), and one of my nominees; I feel Pie, Savant, and Lunatic each deserve to be VTLed so much more! 💀💀💀
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- CatholicApologetics vs. Savant -
- baggins vs. Sidewalker -
To be clear, there was no choice but to vote for Free Will is an Illusion; to think otherwise is a delusion.
Other:
- ILikePie5 - US Governors Mafia
- Swagnarok - Belated Defense of UnitedHealthCare
- Mall - Watch Me Debate Live
US Governors Mafia had the greatest prank we've ever pulled off in one of those games. RM had completely solved the game (full credit where it's due), and I had not made a fake character claim so I was next on the chopping block... Except if you think about it, you can always prevent being lynched by getting yourself mod killed. So I coordinated a rather blatant fake mafia victory by editing moderator posts (like adding "When summoned by the necromancer, you rise and use your power as commanded" to the graveyard), and getting a dead player to pretend to have been resurrected by a completely BS ability I did not have (politicians routinely claim the silent majority will rise on election night to vote for them, so since every educated person knows the silent majority is a euphemism for dead people, I did a play on that by claiming to be a necromancer!). Of course, at the time edited posted were visibly marked as EDITED; which should have been a big clue something was off.
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Tally will be updated here (mods may update posts at any time):
Users:
- Savant - 8 (#3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #10, #11, #12)
- ILikePie5 - 6 (#5, #6, #8, #10, #11, #12)
- Lunatic - 5 (#3, #5, #8, #11, #12)
- Novice_II - 3 (#3, #7, #8)
Debates:
- baggins vs. Sidewalker - 1 (#5)
- McMieky vs. Mieky - 0 ()
Other:
- ILikePie5 - US Governors Mafia - 4 (#3 #5, #8, #11)
- Swagnarok - Belated Defense of UnitedHealthCare - 3 (#5, #8, #11)
- WyIted - Diary Mafia - 2 (#3, #8)
- ADOL - Beastiality - 2 (#3, #11)
- Mall - Watch Me Debate Live 1 (#5)
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Hall of Fame VI
Voting Stage Rules
Welcome to DART’s fifth official Hall of Fame induction process! This thread is for the second stage of that process, namely, the voting stage. During this stage, users (you) may vote for the various nominees in each category (users, debates, miscellaneous) for inclusion in the Hall of Fame. The two nominees with the most votes in each category will be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Any user will be able to vote for up to three nominees per category for a maximum of 9 votes per voting user. Voters may choose to vote for less than the maximum number if they choose. You may vote for any of the nominees who have advanced out of the nomination stage. The voting process will close at approximately 10:00pm, PST, on 03/16/25. Votes cast after the close of the process will not be considered.
When you vote, you strongly are encouraged to offer a brief justification for, explanation of, or reason for your vote (one of these per winner will serve as the official write-up unless said winner opts for it to be replaced). Please also bold your votes to make them more visible.
You are permitted to change your votes within reason.
Those nominees with the most votes (3 per category) will be inducted into the DART Hall of Fame. In the event of a tie preventing exactly 3 inductions per category, the voting window will be extended for just those tied nominees and/or they will joint win. Those inducted will be formally honored with entries in the Hall of Fame thread.
There are no prerequisites or eligibility requirements for users to participate in the Hall of Fame voting process, except that they have an account on DART and are not voting/nominating from more than one account. Importantly, please don’t engage in coordinated vote trading and such, as that would be incongruous.
The Nominees
Choose up to three from each category.
Users:
Debates:
- Benjamin vs. Bones -
THB in the Efficacy of Gender Affirming Care - Savant vs. Benjamin -
Personhood Begins at Conception - CatholicApologetics vs. Savant -
The Catholic Church is Infallible - baggins vs. Sidewalker -
Free Will is an Illusion
Other:
- WyIted - Diary Mafia
- ILikePie5 - US Governors Mafia
- Swagnarok - Belated Defense of UnitedHealthCare
- ADOL - Beastiality
- Mall - Watch Me Debate Live
Note:
I know last year we did two from each, but it was announced as three this year, so three is what we'll do. And again, while optional, please submit writeups with your votes, from which we can use the best ones to immediately serve as the official writeups for the winners in the Hall of Fame unless said winner requests a different one (which they may, we're just trying to streamline to get something in there quickly to avoid delays).
I know last year we did two from each, but it was announced as three this year, so three is what we'll do. And again, while optional, please submit writeups with your votes, from which we can use the best ones to immediately serve as the official writeups for the winners in the Hall of Fame unless said winner requests a different one (which they may, we're just trying to streamline to get something in there quickly to avoid delays).
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For users, Owen_T, Novice, and Best.Korea
Honestly, I remember bookmarking some content but have been too busy this weekend to look. Regardless, this looks like a good crop of choices that will move forward.
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US Governors Mafia… Mostly for the epic prank at the end, which I suspect is the best done prank we’ve had in our limited history of that game.
It was better when it occurred, because edited posts were marked as such; which should have clued everyone in that something wasn’t right with the suddenly overpowered mafia roles.
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@WyIted
Shit WTF. Please delete post 137 and 138 for the integrity of the game. Thanks
Got it, whiteflame is no longer Gay, but Vader is Gae.
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@Lunatic
I'm going to be very busy for the next week or two, so I really can't.
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@WyIted
I forgot to ask, what was the purgatory thread for? I was looking forward to discovering what the cookie did.
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Might be best to switch me to a backup. Next week is looking pretty full for me.
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By the way, no one should feel too bad about any misreading of the situation; after all, consider investigative reporters in DC comics: https://youtu.be/0PlwDbSYicM?si=WtIQyLKWF-whHFEr&t=786 "I sure sure you're not Clark Kent?"
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Oh and thanks for playing everyone! It was nice to play a game where I could be active (been awhile of just filling in to have enough players).
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@ILikePie5
Can we all collectively agree to ban Greyparrot from Mafia?
I already told Wylted a day or two ago that if GP was not scum, I would not be partaking in any more games with him. As scum, being that stupid as a tactic is valid; as town, it's unforgivable.
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@iamanabanana
A couple minor tactical mistake, is that there's no way mafia would get a limitless vigilante. If he failed to perform, then he'd get lynched.
I don't think you would have survived, but a push toward JoeBob (whom I'd identified as claiming a power way too similar to yours) would have been wise. And when lynched, since you knew you were town, killing JoeBob would have been optimal as your innocence all but guaranteed he was scum.
That said, I don't think the choice to kill Vader was intentionally throwing the game; just a tactical error.
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@WyIted
Could you provide an activity table for us? (I assume you already have one to track the game).
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I just got an important update: There is another thief in the game. I am now human, not Canadian. Will the horrors of this game ever cease?!
/joke... Ok, so it was part of an actual message, but it was in jest rather than serious.
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@Savant
Austin called it (which also solidifies him as town). Please unvote,
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@whiteflame
Oh please do us a favor and share the details of your original role. I'm specially curious if it was town aligned or not. You've already won, so telling us does you no harm.
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@WyIted
Can you confirm if hypothetically someone is deathproof, would attempting to lynch them end the day?
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@AustinL0926
If WF is deathproof and it can activate again this DP, then voting him allows scum a free NK and to instantly reach parity.
I could be wrong, but doesn't deathproof normally leave the day going? I've been in multiple games where that was the case (or at least for lynchproof).
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@AustinL0926
wtf was the ending of last DP
Whiteflame was VTLed, but transformed into a crab person.
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@Savant
Due to another third party, there are most likely only two scum remaining. Meaning GPs attempt to toss over the gameboard for them, doesn't equal an easy quick mislynch like that. If I'm correct, they can do that if two town votes sit on someone.
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
@Savant
I need all town you all (well all but one of you), to vote whiteflame to verify his lynchrooof claim.
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@whiteflame
Are you third party, or town? If third party, what are your win conditions? (not that we can still interfere)
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BTW, I think the key word thing was true, and may have played a role in powering up whiteflame. My action failed yet again (tried targeting pie, already accepting that it didn't matter who I picked).
I am going to avoid saying that one word, and try to neighborize whiteflame tonight.
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So scum cannot have deathproof, so I think scum wasted a kill attempt on whiteflame causing the no kill night.
But as a precrustation, we must verify
VTL Whiteflame
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@whiteflame
First I'd just like to note that it's impossible for you to be the role stealer, since GP noticed I used the word "cool" which was offensive to him, and therefore it's impossible for anyone but me to be it.
Mockery aside, I think you have the floor, and we'd all like some answers before we attempt to lynch you (I doubt we can, but still).
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@AustinL0926
your role being called by the mod as a big ol announcement. Sounds like another name for innocent child? (Pretty sure that’s the one, game progresses to a certain point and the mod declares them)
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@Mharman
I am about to get in the road, but my analysis hasn’t changed since something like 229.
-->@ILikePie5I'm not trying to tunnel, as much as get Greyparrot to actually engage with the game and explain himself. Not the say he isn't in my scumpile, but I am open to other possibilities.I will of course defend my reasons for wanting to lynch Joebob until the cows come home; but easy to defend when I was proven right.I have bad gut feelings about both Mharman (it's not strong, but when we were locked in on lynching Banana he started preemptively laying out cases for other lynches... Counting his eggs before they were hatched so to speak. I do need to go over his other results now that I know where they are (well, the new post of them anyway)),I likewise have a bad gut feeling about Whiteflame (it's really really just a gut feeling, but it is why I have not used my ability on him, even while I deeply wish I could talk to my friend about this game while it's happening).Lunatic I have an uneasy feeling towards, but I but would more of just not put them in the town pile (doctors surviving instead of being NKed is weird; not to say it doesn't happen, but it's still weird).I obviously fully believe Austin and Savant are town confirmed by their roles, and while not town confirmed Pie (also, if you're really scum you deserve the win).
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@whiteflame
This is my favorite thing about you in these games, you’d say the exact same well reasoned thing there as town or scum.
I deeply respect how both you and Pie have composed yourselves this games, so if you and Pie both vote for me, I’ll vote for myself as well to save scum the trouble.
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The brackets still feel like an accidental red herring to me. Anyone else ask Wylted about them? And if so, anyone get a different answer than what I got?
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@Mharman
If I’m scum as you’ve been pushing since roughly the time I figured out JoeBob was scum, why would I give town the logic to kill him?
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@ILikePie5
I’ll just say it, cause I think I know what it is, and I can’t think of a downside. Basically Crab God passively blocks anyone who says “Carcinization” in the DP.
If this turns out to be true, I will applaud Wylted for such a great act of creativity!
I know I’ve already said it today, so it can’t make a difference, but Carcinization.
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@ILikePie5
I'm not trying to tunnel, as much as get Greyparrot to actually engage with the game and explain himself. Not the say he isn't in my scumpile, but I am open to other possibilities.
I will of course defend my reasons for wanting to lynch Joebob until the cows come home; but easy to defend when I was proven right.
I have bad gut feelings about both Mharman (it's not strong, but when we were locked in on lynching Banana he started preemptively laying out cases for other lynches... Counting his eggs before they were hatched so to speak. I do need to go over his other results now that I know where they are (well, the new post of them anyway)),
I likewise have a bad gut feeling about Whiteflame (it's really really just a gut feeling, but it is why I have not used my ability on him, even while I deeply wish I could talk to my friend about this game while it's happening).
Lunatic I have an uneasy feeling towards, but I but would more of just not put them in the town pile (doctors surviving instead of being NKed is weird; not to say it doesn't happen, but it's still weird).
I obviously fully believe Austin and Savant are town confirmed by their roles, and while not town confirmed Pie (also, if you're really scum you deserve the win).
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@Greyparrot
Crabs pull each other back into boiling pots, hell is hot... Hardly the deduction of the year.
Please refer me to your explanation for why me using the word "cool" and wanting to kill the clearly innocent JoeBob meant I had to be killed ASAP?
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@Greyparrot
My character is carcinizationMy role is Crab GodI do not get to know what the crab God does
this was your description of your powers, which you’ve stuck with for how long? Now you apparently were told about your role having a passive ability to keep people in hell or something… please explain how being told and not being told are not contradictions?
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@Mharman
now I wonder if the whole thing really was a ruse.
Our minds went to a similar place.
If it’s been stolen, killing GP (who refuses to explain basic things like his defense of JoeBob) tells us what the role is. L
If it’s a ruse, then we’ve killed a scum.
Either way, town gets rid of someone who is actively refusing to take part in the discussion (so should be considered anti-town).
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Are we still at mislynch and lose? We killed a scum, and they got no night kill.
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@Mharman
When you post your story, would you mind including your role, justification, and previous stories? Copy/pasting is fine, I am just having trouble digging.
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@fauxlaw
Sorry, my mind jumped to the past problem of people farming that for cheap wins and thus cheap ELO.
To your proposal, I’d say there’s the drawback that such debates also aren’t true draws either. Winning via disqualification isn’t much of a victory, but it’s still a superior performance to not showing up.
On one site conflicting ideologies on these lead to ugly exchanges of vote bombs. Counter vote bombs aren’t allowed here, but I personally was in favor 1 for 1 singular counter votes; which meant if more judges thought it should be a tie than it could be tied without vote deletion nor escalating exchanges of increased point allotments.
Ultimately, I hope the next one of these sites can separate wins from wins if you know what I mean.
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