White House issues marching orders to media outlets

Author: cristo71

Posts

Total: 451
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
“White House sends letter to news execs urging outlets to ‘ramp up’ scrutiny of GOP’s Biden impeachment inquiry ‘based on lies’”

Marching orders given; marching orders gladly recieved! Oliver Darcy at CNN dutifully reports on the White House issuing instructions to media and proceeds to follow those instructions in the very same article without even a hint of irony or self awareness. It must be read to be believed:


Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
Didn't they do the same thing to Facebook and Twitter?

Or is that the FBI I am thinking of?
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Greyparrot
When the press is meant to hold power accountable, it is generally understood to mean power which is not pro Democrat. That goes for corporations, unions, and the DNC.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
You can't have propaganda without the brownshirts to keep the critics in line.
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@cristo71
the White House is asking news outlets to report on Republicans’ bogus impeachment inquiry which is based on lies and innuendo. What is your objection to that?
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
You can't have propaganda without the brownshirts to keep the critics in line.
Only morons would equate the FBI to Hitler’s borownshirts. Imagine a moron doing that even though they always complain when people make reference to Hitler.

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
I can imagine the WH memo: Could you please look into this: it would be a shame if something were to happen to your FCC regulations this year...
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
“And in the modern media environment, where every day liars and hucksters peddle disinformation and lies everywhere from Facebook to Fox, process stories that fail to unpack the illegitimacy of the claims on which House Republicans are basing all their actions only serve to generate confusion, put false premises in people’s feeds, and obscure the truth,” Sams added.“

Sounds reasonable to reasonable people. But Republicans and Libertarians aren’t reasonable 
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
Imagine the same situation with the party affiliations switched around.

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Greyparrot
Imagine media bowing to government requests on how they do their job. Oh, wait; you don’t have to.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
At least we now have some idea how much the "free" press costs.
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,364
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@cristo71
Imagine the same situation with the party affiliations switched around.
In the previous administration we saw prime time cable news anchors appearing on stage with the president at his rallies, one of those anchors was known to have nightly conversations with the president discussing White House strategy.

I fail to see what you’re pointing to here that we didn’t see ten fold in the previous administration which you didn’t seem to have any issue with.

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Double_R
Your fallacy of choice here is the ad hominem tu quoque. Didn’t see that one coming! Do you see CNN and Fox in a similar light? Yeah, I didn’t think so…

Also, you confuse pundits with news anchors.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
Do you see CNN and Fox in a similar light? Yeah, I didn’t think so…

You should only worship leftist Billionaire media, because they are the ones that can exploit the poor in a humane way...
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Greyparrot
Left leaning media tends to be unbiased and objective because reality itself is left leaning.

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
reality itself is left leaning...
Well!
Someone had better tell Eritrea, North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Belarus, Syria, Turkmenistan, People's Republic of China, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Bahrain, Equatorial Guinea, Nicaragua, South Sudan, Cambodia, Chad, Azerbaijan, Venezuela, Burundi, Cuba, United Arab Emirates, Sudan, Myanmar, Qatar, Uzbekistan, Somalia, Laos, Russia, Republic of the Congo, Eswatini, Guinea, Turkey, Bangladesh, Egypt, Rwanda, Djibouti, Iran, Cameroon, Comoros, Vietnam, Kazakhstan, Oman, Palestine, Algeria, Libya, Ethiopia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Central African Republic, Mauritania, Thailand, Mali, Zimbabwe, Angola, Togo, Hong Kong, Gabon, Haiti, Uganda, El Salvador, Iraq, Pakistan, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Madagascar, Morocco, Mozambique, Serbia, Jordan, Fiji, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Benin, Philippines, Lebanon, Malaysia, Zambia, Tanzania, Ukraine, Guatemala, Singapore, Papua New Guinea, Nigeria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Guinea-Bissau, India, Hungary, Guyana, Bolivia, Sri Lanka, Mexico, Montenegro, Republic of Macedonia, Niger, Kenya, Albania, The Gambia, Poland, Sierra Leone, Paraguay, Indonesia, Maldives, Tunisia, Liberia, Mauritius, Nepal, Ecuador, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Solomon Islands, Burkina Faso, Bhutan, Botswana, East Timor, Georgia, Mongolia, Lesotho, Brazil, Namibia, Malawi, Bulgaria, Senegal, Armenia, Panama, Ghana, Seychelles, São Tomé and Príncipe, South Africa, Slovenia, Moldova, Croatia, Malta, Romania, Suriname, Israel, Peru, Trinidad and Tobago, Argentina, Vanuatu, Greece, Barbados, Cyprus, Jamaica, Taiwan, Czech Republic, and Latvia that they are living in an alternate dimension then.
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Greyparrot
Colombia has a socialist president now, but I digress…

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,832
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8
-->
@Greyparrot
Yes,
Most Conservative Countries in the World
1. Eritrea – 0.01
2. North Korea – 0.015
3. Afghanistan – 0.021
4. Yemen – 0.033
5. Belarus – 0.039
6. Syria – 0.04
7. Turkmenistan – 0.042
8. China – 0.044
9. Saudi Arabia – 0.044
10. Tajikistan – 0.047

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@FLRW
Proof more illegal immigration is required to shift America back to reality.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 367
Posts: 11,103
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Greyparrot
shift America back to reality.
I dont think America can get back to reality. At least not in case of MAGA citizens.

Its the strongest country and has largest number of migrants in the world, but that at the same time has MAGA who think that migrants are very bad.

Eh, MAGA...
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Best.Korea
It also has the largest number of illegal migrants. Most of the world is saying "hmmm, might not be such a great idea"

NK will save America from both the Marxists and the MAGA after the illegal migrants transform America.
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,832
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8
-->
@Greyparrot
It also has the largest number of illegal migrants.
What Would Jesus Do?   I'm just kidding, I'm an Atheist like Trump.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@FLRW
Nobody is more athiest than ultra far left NY Mayor Eric Adams.
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@cristo71
Also, you confuse pundits with news anchors.
So the FOX News prime time line up is all pundits. But they call themselves News and their viewers think they are getting news, but they’re not, right?

cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,636
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
Do you know the difference between a pundit/opinion commentator and a news anchor? In another thread you did, so I don’t know why you’re losing the plot now other than your partisan blinders. This is all part of a tu quoque fallacy in any case…

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@cristo71
This is all part of a tu quoque fallacy in any case…
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,364
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@cristo71
In the previous administration we saw prime time cable news anchors appearing on stage with the president at his rallies, one of those anchors was known to have nightly conversations with the president discussing White House strategy.

I fail to see what you’re pointing to here that we didn’t see ten fold in the previous administration which you didn’t seem to have any issue with.
Your fallacy of choice here is the ad hominem tu quoque. Didn’t see that one coming! Do you see CNN and Fox in a similar light? Yeah, I didn’t think so…
Ad hominem? Seriously? Feel free to enlighten me on where that was committed.

Tu Quoque would have been committed if I were claiming right wing media did the same thing as your example which makes this legitimate. That’s not what I did. I pointed out how what they did during the Trump years was 10x worse and yet you seem to have no issue with it. In other words, you’re being a hypocrite. That’s not an ad hominem BTW because it’s an actual argument with a premises, logic and a conclusion that you yourself seemed to have arrived at if this is where you got that from.

If you really want to focus on this example, there is hardly anything remarkable about this at all. If I were Biden I would not have sent a letter to News outlets telling them what I think they should cover, but to package this as marching orders is just ridiculous.

In the example you cited, they began by telling the world they got this letter. That’s a pretty silly way to follow marching orders aimed at spreading propaganda - by telling people your reporting is propaganda.

The news didn’t need a letter to report on any of this, they’ve been doing so for weeks.

There is not a shred of evidence that the cable news outlets feel compelled to follow Biden’s “marching orders” any more than they would any other politician (yes there’s corruption in media, just like every industry on earth blah blah blah).

What the White House is asking reporters to report on is factually accurate. The republicans have not presented a shred of evidence linking any of this to Biden.

There’s nothing remarkable about any of this.



IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,597
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@cristo71
Do you know the difference between a pundit/opinion commentator and a news anchor? 
I do. FOX News watchers don’t. Because they’re dummies.

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,288
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
One should worship leftist Billionaire media exclusively, because they are the ones that can exploit the poor in an approved and humane way...