Covid 2.0 (DejaFlu)

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You were more coherent arguing for pedophilia, are you trying to see how well you can simulate TDS?
Lol, TDS simulator seems like an idea for a fun computer game!
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Well fart smell is fully dissolved organic gasses. Anything that passes air would pass fart smell and free floating viral particles. < edit, this is false activated charcoal matrices and selective osmosis filters can filter these things; such items are not in medical masks

However covid was apparently not really free floating (that's the theory), meaning not airborne.

I do think someone else's underwear protects you from droplets of explosive farting (it's a good thing I'm not eating right now)
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I noticed you stopped using the word "bleach"
I call that a win.
Not much of a win, given that you didnt even refute the argument related to it. Tell us, which UV light knocks out covid in 1 minute? Did Trump lie to us again?
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Sunlight does that Korea. Try to keep up.
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I always thought that TDS was Trumps Dumbest Son.
See: Eric Trump Pulls Ahead in Race to Determine Dumbest Trump Offspring

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That should be recorded, a TDS self portrait.
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I meant to say, if masks can't protect you from farts, they most certainly can't protect you from Covid.
Well, science disagrees with you. Also, fake analogies are not even arguments.

  • Research shows that under most circumstances, mask wearing has no significant adverse health effects on the people who wear them (CDC, 2021).
  • Masks are primarily intended to stop people from spreading droplets that contain the virus, which is especially important people who are asymptomatic or presymptomatic. These people may feel well and may not know they are infectious (CDC, 2021).
  • While all masks provide some level of protection, properly fitting masks provide the highest level of protection. Wearing a highly protective masks are important for certain higher-risk situations, or for some people at increased risk for severe disease (CDC, 2022).
  • Community mask wearing is an effective non-medical way to reduce the spread of this infection. It is effective in preventing someone from spreading or getting the virus (JAMA Network).
  • Face masks can be safely worn by all children 2 years of age and older, including the vast majority of children with underlying health conditions, with rare exception (AAP, 2022).


"We should only trust science when it agrees with us." - Ancient MAGA poverbs, 2020, Donald Trump
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Sunlight does that Korea. Try to keep up.
Sunlight? Let me guess, also rub some dirt in it and it goes away.

"It will go away" - Trump

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Research shows that under most circumstances, mask wearing has no significant adverse health effects on the people who wear them 

Do you really agree with this CDC claim?
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Abstract
State policies mandating public or community use of face masks or covers in mitigating the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) are hotly contested. This study provides evidence from a natural experiment on the effects of state government mandates for face mask use in public issued by fifteen states plus Washington, D.C., between April 8 and May 15, 2020. The research design is an event study examining changes in the daily county-level COVID-19 growth rates between March 31 and May 22, 2020. Mandating face mask use in public is associated with a decline in the daily COVID-19 growth rate by 0.9, 1.1, 1.4, 1.7, and 2.0 percentage points in 1–5, 6–10, 11–15, 16–20, and 21 or more days after state face mask orders were signed, respectively. Estimates suggest that as a result of the implementation of these mandates, more than 200,000 COVID-19 cases were averted by May 22, 2020. The findings suggest that requiring face mask use in public could help in mitigating the spread of COVID-19.

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Maybe we can cut open patient's lungs and expose them to some sunlight. I am surprised no one thought of that before.
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Masks are primarily intended to stop people from spreading droplets that contain the virus
That's what I just said isn't it? (it is)


"We should only trust science when it agrees with us." - Ancient MAGA poverbs, 2020, Donald Trump
I am the science - Fauci


Sunlight does that Korea. Try to keep up.
Sunlight? Let me guess, also rub some dirt in it and it goes away.

"It will go away" - Trump
Oh well, you can take the bus. I'm not slowing down.

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“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”

- Trump said as the audience laughed in ignorance.
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UVA light is a disinfecting AGENT. 
It is not an agent. So Wrong again. UVA light is NOT a substance. Keep trying to make shit up. 

a substance that brings about a chemical or physical effect or causes a chemical reaction.
"there is an urgent need for new antimicrobial agents to combat infections"

Bleach is an agent.
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Sunlight does that Korea.
No. It does not. Try to keep up.

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Shooting isn't bad in self defense.
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I am a little worried when the science being broadcast comes exclusively from Pfizer board members...

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Research shows that under most circumstances, mask wearing has no significant adverse health effects on the people who wear them 
Do you really agree with this CDC claim?
I have no reason to doubt or agree with that claim.


I am a little worried when the science being broadcast comes exclusively from Pfizer board members...
Science moves in mysterious ways. If you want science to forgive you, become dependent on expensive drugs to suppress your worry.


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I have no reason to doubt or agree with that claim.
Food for thought then:


Masks
Effectiveness:
The debate regarding the effectiveness of masks is still ongoing. Indeed, some believe masks are ineffective (for both this coronavirus virus and influenza variants) (29–31), others defend the simple surgical mask efficiency (this is the most common scientific opinion), and others are calling for more effective masks (32).
Even supposing face masks might provide some measure of protection, there are side effects that could undermine any efficacy they may have. First, wearing a mask may give a false sense of security and make people less compliant with social distancing, ventilation and other important infection control schemes (33, 34). Second, people have to avoid touching their masks and adopt other management measures, otherwise masks may be counterproductive (35).
While face masks can stop larger droplets, such droplets tend to fall to the ground due to their weight (36–38), and are not the route for viral transmission. Viruses spread via smoke-like aerosols (39) via breath (or flatulence), which go through and jet out the sides of surgical masks, and infect mainly by inhalation deep into the lungs. Despite the risk of inhaling/exhaling infected virions via leaks of particles, this was never evaluated in applied norms for surgical masks, and only for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) under the Filtering Facepiece Particles (FFP) norm in Europe, and N (e.g., N95) in the USA. Moreover, the European norm for surgical masks (EN14683) as well as the US (ASTM) only applies to Bacterial Filtration Efficiency (BFE), and the size of the bacteria used for testing (3 microns) is much larger than the SARS-CoV-2 [maximum size of 140 nm (40)]. Virus filtration efficiency (VFE) was never tested in Chinese and European norms.

Psychological Effects
Masks severely handicap us in our most fundamental way of communicating—our emotional expressions (51–53), something that is as relevant in health diagnoses (54) as it is in regular life. For instance, a randomized clinical trial has shown that health care professionals wearing masks have a significant and negative impact on the patient's perceived empathy and diminish positive effects of relational continuity (55).
A recent study also showed that each type of mask caused a low-pass filter effect, attenuating higher frequencies (2,000–7,000 Hz) in the speaker's voice by 3–4 dB (medical mask) and nearly 12 dB for the N95 mask (respirator/FFP) (56). In addition to this, masks significantly prevent binding mechanisms through which de-synchronized auditory and motor signals from language are usually fused into conscious workspace—a phenomenon known as the McGurk effect (57).
Also, a review notably supports the idea that panic-prone individuals may be at higher risk of respiratory discomfort when wearing RPDs, thereby reducing their tolerance for these devices (58).

A final consequence of universal mask wearing worth mentioning is one at the societal level: once an unmasked face becomes verboten in most public circumstances, it can end up psychologically treated as a “private part” that must be covered, like all our private parts, something that can be difficult to undo. 

We are breaking down a fundamental part of society, essentially the ability to communicate and read each other. The dire cost of this policy has to have equal or better benefits to justify it.
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Dont worry. Trump will lose in 2024 just like he lost in 2020.
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The dire cost of this policy has to have equal or better benefits to justify it.
Like the saving of 200,000 lives. But thats just a hoax, right?

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No. The hoax was that masks could prevent you from catching Covid when it actually made people believe they didn't have to social distance or quarantine themselves.
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Yeah, that was the hoax. Thats why US had such high covid mortality rate, while countries that had mask policies had low.
Maybe you are immune to Covid like Trump, so you dont need mask.
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Thats why US had such high covid mortality rate,
It was actually due to the US having one of the highest Obesity rates in the civilized world. 

You're welcome.
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Cases and mortality by country      

1. Peru
     4,487,553     Cases
    219,539          DEATHS
    4.9%                PERCENT FATALITY
    665.84             DEATHS/100K POP.      

2. US
    103,802,702
    1,123,836
    1.1%
    341.120. 
   
20. Japan
           33,320,438
           72,997
           0.2%
           57.72

Remember what I said about everybody in Japan wearing masks?

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Yeah, its definitely that. US also has number 1 healthcare in the world. And it seems that areas in US with more masks had less covid. Also, studies say that too, but its all really a hoax to sell masks, right?
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Mask also reduces the Covid's impact since even if you end up inhaling covid, you inhale less of it since mask blocks great majority of it. This makes it easier for your body to fight it. And it only costs 1$.
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But do you have a YouTube video that shows that.  Lol
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Sure:


Results
In total, 3,140,413 patients from 167 studies were included in the study. Obesity was associated with an increased risk of severe disease (RR=1.52, 95% CI 1.41-1.63, p<0.001, I2 = 97%). Similarly, high mortality was observed in obese patients (RR=1.09, 95% CI 1.02-1.16, p=0.006, I2 = 97%). In multivariate meta-regression on severity, the covariate of the female gender, pulmonary disease, diabetes, older age, cardiovascular diseases, and hypertension was found to be significant and explained R2 = 40% of the between-study heterogeneity for severity. The aforementioned covariates were found to be significant for mortality as well, and these covariates collectively explained R2 = 50% of the between-study variability for mortality.

Conclusions
Our findings suggest that obesity is significantly associated with increased severity and higher mortality among COVID-19 patients. Therefore, the inclusion of obesity or its surrogate body mass index in prognostic scores and improvement of guidelines for patient care management is recommended.

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I'm sorry.  I can only accept YouTube videos as evidence