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@YouFound_Lxam
The facts show that God exists?
I will not get into that conversation right now, because it is a long argument.
Don't get into it - it's all wrong anyways.
I will not get into that conversation right now, because it is a long argument.
Don't get into it - it's all wrong anyways.
You will argue the Christian God does command Christians to vote against LGBTQ+ rights.
Why is it a sin.All of the verses in the bible that say it is a sin.If you are going to argue against the Bible, you should at least read it first.
There is no instance where you cannot change your personal desires.
A fact based one.
Public-Choice wrote: You will argue the Christian God does command Christians to vote against LGBTQ+ rights.Stephen wrote:I will argue anything where and when ever I believe their is a genuine argument. But I don't believe I have ever said - "god commands that Christians vote against LGBTQ+ rights".What I have said is that the god of the bible finds homosexuals and homosexuality an "abomination" and that they should be "put to death".. You would know this if you had been following this thread..... or have read your bible.You seemed to be agreeing with Geon's statement here, were you not?
@Gion wrote: personally-maybe its just me idk, "disagreeing" with somethin' like sexuality or gender is usually equivalent with voting against their rights and such? for example, hurtin' gay people by votin' against legalizing gay marriage or hurtin' trans people by votin' for trans genocide.#9Stephen Wrote: Well isn't that what the god of Christians promotes, encourages and commands? #11
I've read the Bible, please provide the verses that say it is a sin.
Are you saying your sexual orientation was a choice? You could have chosen to be gay?
I've read the Bible, please provide the verses that say it is a sin.Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Are you saying your sexual orientation was a choice? You could have chosen to be gay?Yes, people can choose their sexual preference. Not their personal sexual preference (what they would like to be) but their sexual preference when it comes to whom they are attracted to.
SidewalkerI've read the Bible, please provide the verses that say it is a sin.YouFound_LxamLeviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."SidewalkerThat's from the Old Testament, is there anything from the New Testament that provides this guidance to Christians.
That's from the Old Testament, is there anything from the New Testament that provides this guidance to Christians.
So you chose to be heterosexual, it could have gone either way. Did the Bible help you decide?
You keep telling us you know your bible very well. Try reading Corinthians, Acts , 1 Timothy, Romans. Or will you forever need spoon feeding,
like that other thick bible dunce the Reverend Tradesecret who tells us often about his own sexual deviances and his own homosexual experimentations?
The word homosexual was not even coined until the 19th century and the various New Testament translations of the word homosexual that were inserted after 1946 are agenda driven at best.
So you chose to be heterosexual, it could have gone either way. Did the Bible help you decide?Yes, I guess if I was attracted to men instead of women, then it could have gone either way.The bible leads me to the righteous path. I have always been heterosexual. To assume the Bible helped me decide, is also assuming that I was confused about my sexual preference, which I have never been confused about.
SidewalkerI've read the Bible, please provide the verses that say it is a sin.YouFound_LxamLeviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."SidewalkerThat's from the Old Testament, is there anything from the New Testament that provides this guidance to Christians.Stephen wrote: You keep telling us you know your bible very well. Try reading Corinthians, Acts , 1 Timothy, Romans. Or will you forever need spoon feeding, like that other thick bible dunce the Reverend Tradesecret who tells us often about his own sexual deviances and his own homosexual experimentations?Here>>#104,None of the passages you are referring to refer to “Homosexuality” in the New Testament.
SidewalkerISo you chose to be heterosexual, it could have gone either way. Did the Bible help you decide?YouFound_LxamLYes, I guess if I was attracted to men instead of women, then it could have gone either way.The bible leads me to the righteous path. I have always been heterosexual. To assume the Bible helped me decide, is also assuming that I was confused about my sexual preference, which I have never been confused about.SidewalkerIIf it wasn't a choice for you, then why do you think it's a choice for gay people?
Even if one is choosing what one wants,Is it not still a choice?
Hm,Or to put it another way,I suppose you might mean sexual orientation,In the same way as pain, hunger, arousal,An involuntary reaction, reflex,
But pain tolerance can grow,Hunger can be mitigated,Arousal can be controlled.
Whether by mechanical means,Or habituation.. . .I don't mean any of this as negative towards homosexuals,I just disagree with the argument that sexuality is not alterable, generally speaking.
I'm not saying homosexuals should not be homosexual,Or that it's a finger snap.Depression, anger, happiness, kindness, are controllable,But some people still find such difficult to control.
FM! that question has been asked and answered already, twice? Are you that desperate for conversation that you have to plagiarise questions that others have already asked and answers already given? 🤦♂️
The word homosexual was not even coined until the 19th century and the various New Testament translations of the word homosexual that were inserted after 1946 are agenda driven at best.
So, homosexuality didn't exist until the 19th century?
Why not ask the Reverend Tradesecret for some private tuition. He is highly qualified and accredited in all things theological and biblical and he has direct and personal experience in the "abomination" that god referrers to " men lying with men as one would a woman"?