Censorship from the Government has Finally been Leaked.

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Global warming isn't an invented problem, it reflects the findings of the global scientific community.
True, but global alarmism is a current fad. Just like politicians used to try to scare people in the 70's with an "ice age"

The politicians seemed to knock this one out of the park considering the recent trillion dollar giveaway to green energy companies.
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Warning Twitter about potential foreign misinformation is not a violation of the first amendment. Twitter ultimately decided what content it would allow on it's platform and the government made no attempt to coerce Twitter in it's decision making.
This is correct. In order for a 1st amendment violation to occur, it would have to be proven that the government either engaged in coercion or quid pro quos. 

Most of the evidence at the moment shows the private publishers actually approached the government voluntarily.
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Unless the Trump Adminstration strongarmed or coerced Twitter in some way, then calling Twitter's decision "government censorship" is just more fake news.
^^^ This aged like grape juice.


The former senior counsel who decided to axe the NY Post story was a military intelligence operative whose briefings literally determined what the FBI and CIA did:

Twitter is and always has been a DoD and NATO propaganda platform. The Intelligence Community invented social media for information collection activities. Now they are blatantly using it for propaganda purposes:
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  • This story offers zero examples of government censorship and offers zero new information about the Hunter Biden laptop.  Using the word censorship in a FOX News headline is not evidence of censorship.
The former senior counsel who decided to axe the NY Post story was a military intelligence operative whose briefings literally determined what the FBI and CIA did:
  • False.  This dude wasn't even working for Twitter in Oct. 2020.
Twitter is and always has been a DoD and NATO propaganda platform.  The Intelligence Community invented social media for information collection activities. Now they are blatantly using it for propaganda purposes:
  • Mentally ill conspiracy theory.  Please seek medical attention.
  • Yes, the CIA mines social media for data, just like every other large commerical or government interest in the world.  Not surprising and NOT a conspiracy to censor the truth.
  • Yes, the goverment uses social media for propaganda.  Your dear leader, Donald Trump, did this more aggressively and to greater human harm than any other aspect of any other government in history and you were 100% ok with it.  Again, not surprising and NOT a conspiracy to censor the truth.
Since none of your  offerings even begin to suggest evidence of government censorship, I suggest you stop trying to change the subject.

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You keep making these claims that it never happened, yet you have yet to show me a shred of evidence that it hasn't happened.
There are multiple videos of it not happening, and hundreds of witnesses didn't see it happen.
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->@oromagi
You keep making these claims that it never happened, yet you have yet to show me a shred of evidence that it hasn't happened.
  • I'm not making claims, you are.  I'm just explaining to you why your claims are obvious bullshit.
Try to find evidence about this topic, and you will see that you will find loads of information, on what I just told you.
  • Loads of bullshit.  The application of even a little reason disproves your claims.
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Watch.

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Watch.
  • why not try thinking through your own opinion?

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  • why not try thinking through your own opinion?
That is my opinion. I just found more proof of someone else thinking the same thing.
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Do you have proof of government pressure?
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Do you have proof of government pressure?
Why else would Twitter have government workers filtering out certain things? 

If it really was Twitters choice, then couldn't they just have a Twitter worker, do those things?

No, because the government wanted to filter out the things that they wanted to filter.

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That's just an example of crony capitalism though, not an example of government coercion.
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The First Amendment:
"The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition.  It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices.  It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely.  It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government."

The Congress/Government is prohibiting certain information, on a public website to be censored, then that violates the first amendment.





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The Congress/Government is prohibiting certain information, on a public website to be censored, then that violates the first amendment.

  • Not true.  You clearly know your claim is not true or you would have presented some evidence by now. 
  • Twitter is not a public website. Twitter is the private property of one mentally ill immigrant named Elon Musk.  He could unplug the whole thing tomorrow and the government (we the people) couldn't do a damn thing about it.
  • Let's keep in mind that the NY Post story in question was invented by the President of the United States as poltical propaganda and smear against his opponent.  Everybody knew then and still knows now that the laptop in question was tampered with by Biden's poltical enemies and therefore unusable as a source of evidence, as well as almost certainly the same laptop Russian Intellligence was selling for $5 million in 2018. The story was such an obvious falsehood that the NY Post reporter quit his job rather than allow his name to be associated with that story.  The Wall St. Journal and FOX News editors were calling the story an obvious falsehood weeks before the NY Post said fuck it and ran those lies for their dear leader in violation of their professional responsibilities.  It wasn't just the FBI and the CIA who said the story was obviously Russian bullshit- all professional everywhere were calling it obvious bullshit.  Read the documents for yourself:  the ethics board at Twitter was not worried about government pressure to supress the story.  The government was not applying one ounce of pressure because the story was already wide open.  No single detail of the NY Post story was not entirely public before Twitter considered suprressing the story.  The ethics board was worried about promoting obviously false, probably foreign propaganda obviously manufacture by and for the Trump campaign/administration/presidency.  If Twitter let the story run free, were they betraying the integrity of US elections?  Were they letting Trump get away with obvious tricks.  For a couple of days, the ethics board decided not to propagate the President's fake news but then CEO Jack Dorsey overrode that decision and decided they should just let Twitter talk about whatever they wanted, even if it did harm American election integrity.    
  • That's all that went down.  No fucking consiracy.  The only people who did anything in secret were Giuliani and Trump and their operatives.  Yes there is a real laptop lost in Las Vegas in 2017 with a future President's fucked up son doing a bunch of sex and drugs.  Yes, Hunter took some millions of dollars from Ukrainian and Chinese interests in exchange for introductions, lobbying, the appearance of supporting Democrats.  That is quite corrupt but it is not illegal and nobody has abused those kinds of family advantages more aggressively than Trump's family and Bush's family so Republicans are fat fucking hypocrites for wanting to beat their chests on that subject.  
  • Giuliani almost certainly bought Hunter's laptop in Kyiv in early 2018 for $5 million dollars.  Either Guiliani or the Russians added about 80% of the contents  found on the laptop after Hunter's last possession and made copies of the whole drive over and over and over to wipe out timestamps and authorship.  Giuliani gave the hard drive to FBI in Dec 2018 but the FBI did not fall for the obviously faked poltiical propoganda so Giuliani invented that totally unbelievable story about Biden dropping off 3 laptops with gigabytes of incriminating shit in Delaware and never coming back for them.  Totally unbelievable.  The Mac repair guy had a prior relationship with Giuliani and was obviously paid well for paying the story (he shut down his business and retired to Colorado a few weeks later).  
    • Twitter shouldn't be forced to tell obvious untruths just because the Republican Party is addicted to crazy QAnon conspiracy stories.  That is the opposite of censorship- that is standing up for the truth when powerful forces are pressuring you to give credibility to  lies.  That's all this story is.  Don't let Elon Musk make a buck off you by pretending that he's revealing something new or brave or interesting because if you take a breath and look at the facts, it is obvious that he ain't got jack shit- he's just trying to save a platform he overpaid for while scaring off most of the good advertisers.

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You can blabber all day about what happened, but can you provide evidence?

No, I will not believe you unless you have some shred of evidence to support what you just said.

 one mentally ill immigrant named Elon Musk.
Also, the richest man in the world. It seems to me that your bias on Elon Musk blinds you.

Twitter is not a public website.
Yes, it is......I could download it right now, as could you.

Let's keep in mind that the NY Post story in question was invented by the President of the United States as poltical propaganda and smear against his opponent. 
Well, I mean that may be what you think happened, but I don't see any proof.

Everybody knew then and still knows now that the laptop in question was tampered with by Biden's poltical enemies and therefore unusable as a source of evidence, as well as almost certainly the same laptop Russian Intellligence was selling for $5 million in 2018.
No actually, the people who "tampered" with it, as you would say, were the ones who convicted Hunter Biden of illegal crimes. Thats not called tampering, that's called finding evidence. 

 It wasn't just the FBI and the CIA who said the story was obviously Russian bullshit- all professional everywhere were calling it obvious bullshit.
So, when Trump becomes president, everyone assumes it's the Russians, but when we have actual proof, then it's not the Russians?

 Read the documents for yourself:  the ethics board at Twitter was not worried about government pressure to supress the story.  The government was not applying one ounce of pressure because the story was already wide open.  No single detail of the NY Post story was not entirely public before Twitter considered suprressing the story.  The ethics board was worried about promoting obviously false, probably foreign propaganda obviously manufacture by and for the Trump campaign/administration/presidency.  If Twitter let the story run free, were they betraying the integrity of US elections?  Were they letting Trump get away with obvious tricks.  For a couple of days, the ethics board decided not to propagate the President's fake news but then CEO Jack Dorsey overrode that decision and decided they should just let Twitter talk about whatever they wanted, even if it did harm American election integrity.    
Have you even done your research for this? Elon is literally releasing what he calls the Twitter Files, and it is all the coverup, and corruption that went on in Twitter. I think you should read some of those tweets. Those tweets that were deleted wasn't misinformation, but was actually real information, but it just made the Biden administration look bad. And other messages between the Government and Twitter was also leaked.... those were pretty concerning too.

 Yes there is a real laptop lost in Las Vegas in 2017 with a future President's fucked up son doing a bunch of sex and drugs.  Yes, Hunter took some millions of dollars from Ukrainian and Chinese interests in exchange for introductions, lobbying, the appearance of supporting Democrats.  That is quite corrupt but it is not illegal and nobody has abused those kinds of family advantages more aggressively than Trump's family and Bush's family so Republicans are fat fucking hypocrites for wanting to beat their chests on that subject.  
.......I mean I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that stuff is illegal.

  • Giuliani almost certainly bought Hunter's laptop in Kyiv in early 2018 for $5 million dollars.  Either Guiliani or the Russians added about 80% of the contents  found on the laptop after Hunter's last possession and made copies of the whole drive over and over and over to wipe out timestamps and authorship.  Giuliani gave the hard drive to FBI in Dec 2018 but the FBI did not fall for the obviously faked poltiical propoganda so Giuliani invented that totally unbelievable story about Biden dropping off 3 laptops with gigabytes of incriminating shit in Delaware and never coming back for them.  Totally unbelievable.  The Mac repair guy had a prior relationship with Giuliani and was obviously paid well for paying the story (he shut down his business and retired to Colorado a few weeks later).  

Again, this is just your biased opinion. Can you at least show me some facts?

Twitter shouldn't be forced to tell obvious untruths
So, we agree.

    •  Don't let Elon Musk make a buck off you by pretending that he's revealing something new or brave or interesting because if you take a breath and look at the facts, it is obvious that he ain't got jack shit- he's just trying to save a platform he overpaid for while scaring off most of the good advertisers
No, you need to stop feeding into the lives of headlines, and covers of stories, and actually take a dive into the facts.
You are only listening to the story's that you want to hear. 

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Did Giuliani also get his hair dye from Russia?
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No, I will not believe you unless you have some shred of evidence to support what you just said.
  • We both know that's false. Since your beliefs are not fact-based to begin with, there's no evidence that can your shift your faith.
Twitter is not a public website.
Yes, it is......I could download it right now, as could you.
  • Ouch.  I am sorry you aren't educated about the  difference between a public and private company.  Elon Musk took Twitter private in Oct 2022- that is what he paid $44 billion for.   If you don't know the difference between a private and public company then let's face it, you probably lack the information background necessary to make an informed analysis of the claims you are making.
Let's keep in mind that the NY Post story in question was invented by the President of the United States as poltical propaganda and smear against his opponent. 
Well, I mean that may be what you think happened, but I don't see any proof.
  • Consider:  the only source for the NY Post story is Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani- a lawyer so corrupt that he is now barred from practicing law in the US for manufacturing fake claims of fraud in the 2020 election- literally the same crime he is accused of here.
    • Multiple analyses have shown massive tampering with the laptop.  While many emails, videos, etc do seem to be authenticly Biden's, none of the paperwork that (very vaguely) suggests any wrongdoing in Ukraine or China.  The only people we know for sure had access to Biden's private property and could have done all that tampering are Guiliani and his men. Giuliani admits that Biden's that he was in possession of Biden's private property for an unspecified period of time.
  • We have Trump on tape demanding that the Ukrainian President Zelensky frame Hunter Biden for the exact charges the laptop was designed to prove.  SInce Trump had to blackmail Zelensky and Zelensky still refused, we can be confident those charges are bogus.
  • What more do you need?    You have motive:  fuck over Biden, opportunity: Russia steals Biden's laptop in 2017, means:  Giuliani
No actually, the people who "tampered" with it, as you would say, were the ones who convicted Hunter Biden of illegal crimes. Thats not called tampering, that's called finding evidence. 
  • What the fuck?  This tells me that 
    • You think Hunter Biden has been convicted of something (he hasn't).
    • You think Hunter Biden has been charged with something (he hasn't.)
    • You think Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani is police (he was twenty years ago but now he's one of Trump's ratfuckers).
    • This sentence by itself establishes that you are insufficiently educated on this subject to have an opinion.
 It wasn't just the FBI and the CIA who said the story was obviously Russian bullshit- all professional everywhere were calling it obvious bullshit.
So, when Trump becomes president, everyone assumes it's the Russians, but when we have actual proof, then it's not the Russians?
  • No.  When Biden announces he will run for president, Giuliani puts out a well publicized  call for dirt on Hunter Biden,  many different intelligence agencies immediately get reports out of Kyiv that Russian agents are selling a Hunter Biden laptop with lots of dirt on it for $5 million. Within a week, Guiliani is in Kyiv and US spies are tracking Giuliani meeting with several well known Russian intelligence officers including Andii Derkach.  The same Russian agents are with Shokin that same week when Shokin publishes an unsolicited affadavit saying, "No really, I was investigating Burisma all along."
  • When US intelligence tells us that Trump's lawyer meets with Russian spies in Kyiv claiming to have Hunter Biden's laptop and then Trump's lawyer turns over Hunter Biden's laptop to the FBI with a bunch of fake documents on it, everyone assumes it the Russians.
Have you even done your research for this? Elon is literally releasing what he calls the Twitter Files, and it is all the coverup, and corruption that went on in Twitter. I think you should read some of those tweets. Those tweets that were deleted wasn't misinformation, but was actually real information, but it just made the Biden administration look bad. And other messages between the Government and Twitter was also leaked.... those were pretty concerning too.
  • And yet the very author of  The Twitter Files," Matt Taibbi, claims quite directly that there is no evidence of government censorship or cover-up by Twitter and your, in spite of many, many, many requests, can't point to one example in those twitter files of government censorship, suprressed information, or indeed one single fact about the Hunter Biden laptop that we didn't already know two years ago.
  • I agree that Musk is calling it "coverup and corruption" but since there is not one single fact to back Musk's claim and he is obviously well motivated to sensationalize his activiites, why do you believe him?  
 Yes there is a real laptop lost in Las Vegas in 2017 with a future President's fucked up son doing a bunch of sex and drugs.  Yes, Hunter took some millions of dollars from Ukrainian and Chinese interests in exchange for introductions, lobbying, the appearance of supporting Democrats.  That is quite corrupt but it is not illegal and nobody has abused those kinds of family advantages more aggressively than Trump's family and Bush's family so Republicans are fat fucking hypocrites for wanting to beat their chests on that subject.  
.......I mean I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that stuff is illegal.
  • Again, you seem to lack the education necessary to make that analysis.  In a free market , it is not illegal for citizens to sit on the boards of foreign corporations as long they declare what they are doing and how much they are paid.  Biden declared his contacts and his earnings. The Mueller Report documented 172 meetings between Trump campaign officials and the Russian officials and oligarchs that were not declared.  Unlike those campaign officials, Biden is a private citizen with no conflicts of interest to report.
  • Hunter Biden's taxes claim Burisma paid him $11 million between 2013 and 2018.  The main outstanding question is whether Biden is accurately reporting those earnings or not.  He already made one ammendment and paid additional tax.  This is really the only legal question at stake and since the investigation has gone on for four years without finding anything worth charging, it doesn't seem like any charges are likely.
  • Sitting on corporate boards is how many, many politicians get rich after they leave office.  I agree that this kind of activity is corrupt and should be illegal but it is not.  Only the far left wing is likely to support such legislation.
Twitter shouldn't be forced to tell obvious untruths
So, we agree.
  • The notion that Hunter Biden's laptop is anything more than Russian disinformation purchased by Trump and promoted by the NY Post is one of those obvious untruths.  So obvious that FOX News refused to print it.  So obvious that the reporter on the story quit rather than put his name to such an obvious lie.  So obvious that the Trump adminstration itself felt compelled to call it likely Russian disinformation.
  • Twitter was bravely standing up to Republican Party pressure to print obvious lies about a family member of a presidential candidate.
No, you need to stop feeding into the lives of headlines, and covers of stories, and actually take a dive into the facts.
  • I'll match my research into this subject  any day against some dude who
    • doesn't know that Twitter is privately owned,
    • who thinks US Citizens sitting on foreign boards of directors is illegal,
    • who thinks Hunter Biden has been covicted of crimes by Rudy Giuliani any day
    • who doesn't believe his own sources when they tell him they've got nothing new.


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Did Giuliani also get his hair dye from Russia?
  • Even Russian hair dye oxidizes with peroxide so it wouldn't run like that unless Giuliani actually interrupted his dye session to hold the presser.
  • Most makeup experts agree that it looks like Giuliani used a little mascara on his sideburns to keep an old dye job from looking so obvious.

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You keep spouting out ALL OF THESE CLAIMS WITH NO EVIDENCE. 

So, you can say all you want, but without evidence your words mean nothing.


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LIE #6:

You keep spouting out ALL OF THESE CLAIMS WITH NO EVIDENCE. 

So, you can say all you want, but without evidence your words mean nothing.
  • You keep lying over and over again without explaining what is motivating you to spread these lies.
TRUE or FALSE:  the source for the Hunter Biden laptop story is Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, now disbarred for tampering with evidence of fraud in the 2020 election?

  • These are all well known facts.  All you need is education to know this is true.  If you need me to educate you, just let me know.
TRUE or FALSE:  Multiple objective analyses report that Hunter Biden's laptop was tampered with and most of the data on that laptop cannot be authenticated, should not be trusted.  No authentic document suggests any crime beyond drug abuse and hiring a prostitute.  All the documents suggesting illegal activity in Ukraine or China are not authenticatable and show evidence of having been created long after the authentic documents.
    • These are all well known facts.  All you need is education to know this is true.  If you need me to educate you, just let me know.
    TRUE or FALSE: 
    1. After Biden announced his run for POTUS, Trump put out a request for dirt on Hunter Biden. 
    2. After Trump put out a request for dirt on Hunter Biden, Russian agents showed up in Kyiv offering to sell dirt on Biden for $5 million dollars. 
    3. After Russian agents showed up in Kyiv offering to sell dirt on Biden, Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani traveled to Kyiv and met with those same agents.  
    4. After Donald Trump's personal lawyer met with Russian agents offering to sell dirt on Biden, Giuliani gave the FBI a hard drive with alleged dirt on Biden.
    5. Donald Trump blackmailed  at least one foreign government for dirt on Hunter Biden without any concern for whether the dirt was true or not.
      • These are all well known facts.  All you need is education to know this is true.  If you need me to educate you, just let me know.
      TRUE or FALSE: The Wall Street Journal, FOX News, and the NY Post reporter assigned the story all refused to run Giuliani's Hunter Biden Story (that is, 3 laptops left at Mac Issac's Store)  One reporter whose name was on the byline for the story discovered that the NY Post was giving her credit for the story AFTER the story was published. 

      • These are all well known facts.  All you need is education to know this is true.  If you need me to educate you, just let me know.
      TRUE or FALSE:  Matt Taibbi's analysis of his story "The Twitter Files" released this week is that "he has seen no evidence that there was government involvement in Twitter’s move to block the New York Post story."  Your own primary source states unequivocably that your conclussion is bogus. 

      • Why don't you believe Matt Taibbi when he tells you that you are lying?  Why does your faith in a false belief persist when your own sources tell you that you are wrong?


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      What is the difference between "government censoring information" and "private companies censoring information"?

      And its not like the government cant pay  the media to censor or promote certain news.

      Like, the basic rule of government is media control. If its hidden control, even better.

      Its very naive to think that you have free speech, let alone free speech on the internet.

      This is especially so when observing promotion patterns. Then you see that each media is promoting someone and each media is condemning someone.

      CNN spent 4 years constantly spewing hate against Trump. Thats not "media seeking truth". Thats "media seeking to impose its own views on audience".

      Sadly, majority of the people blindly believe the media.

      So if media controls the people, then he who controls the media controls the people.

      "But surely no one controls the media" is exactly what they want you to think.
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      Again, you can use your biased opinions to argue whatever you want, but in the end, you have to face the facts.

      Yes, Twitter is a private company, but they gave freedom to everyone on their platform to post.

      Yes, Twitter let the Government take control of their website, but as soon as the Government itself is censoring certain information from the public, then it breaks the First Amendment. Twitter could censor all they want, and it would be fine, but as soon as the Government gets involved, then it becomes a violation of the constitution. 

      Elon Musk has released the Twitter Files, in order to show everyone that there is corruption in our government, controlling the media for the greater good of the left. 

      Do you really think it is a coincidence, that all of the leftist tweets were not censored, but all of those censored tweets, was from the right?

      And I'm not talking about Trump, or Giuliani's take on it or what they had to do with it. Stop trying to bring it off topic. 

      I am simply saying that Elon has found incriminating evidence, against Hunter Biden, and the Government. Those are the facts, and if you can't accept them, then you just simply don't like the answer you were given.




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      Yes, Twitter let the Government take control of their website,
      • This is LIE #7.   There was never one moment in the history of Twitter when the government took over.  You seem to have a real problem with understanding and/or telling  the truth.
      as soon as the Government itself is censoring certain information from the public, then it breaks the First Amendment.
      • Which is why it is a good thing this never fucking happened at Twitter.
      Twitter could censor all they want, and it would be fine,
      • Which is what they did,  quite ineffectively, for three day in Oct. 2020.
      but as soon as the Government gets involved, then it becomes a violation of the constitution. 
      • Hooray then that never fucking happened.
      Elon Musk has released the Twitter Files, in order to show everyone that there is corruption in our government, controlling the media for the greater good of the left. 
      • If that was his intent then your source (and Musk's source), Matt Taibbi has reported to you that Musk failed to show any government intervention at Twitter.  If you don't believe your sole source of information any more then what information is backing your silly unsustained claim?
      Do you really think it is a coincidence, that all of the leftist tweets were not censored, but all of those censored tweets, was from the right?
      • No. That is not a coincidence.  Right wing extremism is bad for business in a way that left wing extremism seldom is.  The left is inherently more big tent, big free marketplace.   Left wingers can talk about world peace and feeding the poor and all kinds of shit all day long and never change a single Right Winger's buying habits.  A Right Winger talks about black people's brain size or Jewish cabals and suddenly big companies start losing real money.  The Right WIng is all about making large groups of Americans feel unwelcome and that's why the Right Wing is generally less presentable (and therefore less profitable)  in the context of corporate America. 
      And I'm not talking about Trump, or Giuliani's take on it or what they had to do with it. Stop trying to bring it off topic. 
      • Giuliani is literally the NY Post's exclusive source for the story in question.  Please learn the basic facts about your the ridiculous falsehoods you are presenting.
      I am simply saying that Elon has found incriminating evidence, against Hunter Biden, and the Government.
      • Name that incriminating evidence.  Matt Taibbi says you have none.  I say you have none.
      Those are the facts
      • What facts?  You have said you think that Rudy Giuliani has convicted Hunter Biden of something and when corrected, you just changed the subject.
      • I'm sorry but you don't seem to have a grasp on reality much less facts.  You don't seem interested in the truth.
      • I asked you four very concrete and direct TRUE or FALSE questions that you ran away from like a peeping tom.  Please stand up for your argument and answer those questions as honestly as you can.
      • I have accused you of lying seven times and told you why those were lies.  You do not deny lying, you do not show what evidence substantiates your statements, you just keep repeating shit without care for honest engagement.  




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      • No. That is not a coincidence.  Right wing extremism is bad for business in a way that left wing extremism seldom is.  The left is inherently more big tent, big free marketplace.   Left wingers can talk about world peace and feeding the poor and all kinds of shit all day long and never change a single Right Winger's buying habits.  A Right Winger talks about black people's brain size or Jewish cabals and suddenly big companies start losing real money.  The Right WIng is all about making large groups of Americans feel unwelcome and that's why the Right Wing is generally less presentable (and therefore less profitable)  in the context of corporate America. 
      This quote just shows how much bias you have on the topic.

      And quite honestly, you still have not provided any evidence for any of your claims.

      You haven't proved any of mine wrong. 
      You can't just say something is wrong and expect people to believe you. Do you think that's really going to work?
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      • Name that incriminating evidence.  Matt Taibbi says you have none.  I say you have none.

      Twitter working with the FBI and Government, to cencor certain political opponents.

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      Twitter working with the FBI and Government, to cencor certain political opponents.
      • A lie repeated over and over is not made more true, although stupid people do tend to eventually believe  an oft repeated lie.
      • WIKIPEDIA:
        • During the 2020 American presidential election, the New York Post published a story about the laptop of Hunter Biden. Twitter, along with Facebook, implemented measures to block the sharing of the story, and Twitter further imposed a temporary lock on the accounts of the New York Post and White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, citing violations of its rules against posting hacked content.  The decision to take action on the content came in the wake of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections and generated an outcry from then-President Trump and conservatives who saw it as politically motivated.
          • On December 2, 2022, Taibbi published a Twitter thread on the subject, with internal Twitter emails interspersed with his own reporting.  Some documents described Twitter's internal deliberations regarding the decision to censor the reporting of the story, while others contained information on how Twitter treated tweets that were flagged for removal at the request of the 2020 Biden campaign team and the Trump White House.  He also shared communications between California Democrat Ro Khanna and then-Twitter head of legal Vijaya Gadde, in which Khanna warned about the free-speech implications and possible political backlash that would result from censorship.  Taibbi's thread generated considerable interest but did not contain any significant new revelations. 
            • The thread shed light on an internal debate on whether Twitter should prevent the story from being shared, with leadership arguing that it fell under the company's prohibition on hacked materials.   According to Taibbi, then-CEO Jack Dorsey was unaware of the decision to suppress the content when it was made; days later, he reversed the decision, calling it a "mistake,"  and Twitter updated its hacked materials policy to state that news stories about hacked materials would be permitted, but with a contextual warning.
        • Taibbi reported Twitter had "received and honored" deletion requests from both the Biden campaign and the Trump White House; he presented examples of the former but not of the latter. The Biden campaign asked Twitter to review five tweets, which were later deleted. Taibbi did not disclose the content of the tweets, but four were later found from internet archives to contain nude photos and videos of Hunter Biden, which violate Twitter policy and California law as revenge porn; the content of the fifth deleted tweet is unknown.
          • Elon Musk tweeted that Twitter had acted "under orders from the government," though Taibbi reported no government involvement in the laptop story, tweeting, "Although several sources recalled hearing about a 'general' warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story."  His reporting undermined a key narrative promoted by Musk and Republicans that the FBI pressured social media companies to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop stories.
          • Musk further claimed that this content moderation violated the First Amendment. However, legal experts refuted the idea that content moderation by a private company violates the First Amendment, as it only restricts government actors.  David Loy, legal director for the First Amendment Coalition, said that Twitter is legally able to choose what speech is allowed on their site, noting that both the Biden campaign, which was not part of government, and the Trump White House could request specific content moderation actions.
      • Elon Musk claims government interference citing Taibbi.  Taibbi repeatedly states that Elon Musk is lying and there is no evidence to Musk's claim.  Musk is not relying on any other source, he is just counting on the easily convinced conspiracy theorist who will believe any lie, in full contempt for rational thought, no matter how easily disproved unto death just so long as it reinforces their paranoid world view.  QAnon is a cult and an enemy of American Democracy that Musk hopes to exploit (amoungst other suckers) to boost ratings.  


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      You're not grasping the news; you're just directing this topic back to 2020. Look at the facts of right now.
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      You're not grasping the news; you're just directing this topic back to 2020. Look at the facts of right now.
      • The only new fact is that Musk is putting on a show.  There is no content from that show that was not well-established in October 2020 as the author of the show has repeatedly clarified.

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      EXPLAINER: How Elon Musk is changing what you see on Twitter
      By MATT O'BRIEN, BARBARA ORTUTAY and DAVID KLEPPER
      an hour ago

      What you’re seeing in your feed on Twitter is changing. But how?
      The social media platform’s new owner, Elon Musk, has been trying to prove through giving selected journalists access to some of the company’s internal communications dubbed “The Twitter Files” that officials from the previous leadership team allegedly suppressed right-wing voices.

      This week, Musk disbanded a key advisory group, the Trust and Safety Council, made up of dozens of independent civil, human rights and other organizations. The company formed the council in 2016 to address hate speech, harassment, child exploitation, suicide, self-harm and other problems on the platform.

      What do the developments mean for what shows up in your feed every day? For one, the moves show that Musk is prioritizing improving Twitter’s perception on the U.S. political right. He’s not promising unfettered free speech as much as a shift in what messages get amplified or hidden.

      WHAT ARE THE TWITTER FILES?
      Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion in late October and since then has partnered with a group of handpicked journalists including former Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi and opinion columnist Bari Weiss. Earlier this month, they began publishing — in the form of a series of tweets — about actions that Twitter previously took against accounts thought to have violated its content rules. They’ve included screenshots of emails and messaging board comments reflecting internal conversations within Twitter about those decisions.

      Weiss wrote on Dec. 8 that the “authors have broad and expanding access to Twitter’s files. The only condition we agreed to was that the material would first be published on Twitter.”

      Weiss published the fifth and most recent installment Monday about the conversations leading up to Twitter’s Jan. 8, 2021 decision to permanently suspend then-President Donald Trump’s account “due to the risk of further incitement of violence” following the deadly U.S. Capitol insurrection two days earlier. The internal communications show at least one unnamed staffer doubting that one of the tweets was an incitement of violence; it also reveals executives’ reaction to an advocacy campaign from some employees pushing for tougher action on Trump.

      WHAT’S MISSING?
      Musk’s Twitter Files reveal some of the internal decision-making process affecting mostly right-wing Twitter accounts that the company decided broke its rules against hateful conduct, as well as those that violated the platform’s rules against spreading harmful misinformation about COVID-19.

      But the reports are largely based on anecdotes about a handful of high-profile accounts and the tweets don’t reveal numbers about the scale of suspensions and which views were more likely to be affected. The journalists appear to have unfettered access to the company’s Slack messaging board — visible to all employees — but have relied on Twitter executives to deliver other documents.

      THE TWITTER FILES MENTION SHADOWBANNING. WHAT’S THAT?
      In 2018, after then-CEO Jack Dorsey said Twitter would focus on the “health” of conversations on the platform, the company outlined a new approach intended to reduce the impact of disruptive users, or trolls, by reading “behavioral signals” that tend to indicate when users are more interested in blowing up conversations than in contributing.

      Twitter has long said it used a technique described internally as “visibility filtering” to reduce the reach of some accounts that might violate its rules but don’t rise to the level of being suspended. But it rejected allegations it was secretly “shadowbanning” conservative viewpoints.

      Screenshots showing an employee’s view of prominent user accounts disclosed through the Twitter Files show how that filtering works in practice. It’s also led Musk to call for changes to make that more transparent.

      “Twitter is working on a software update that will show your true account status, so you know clearly if you’ve been shadowbanned, the reason why and how to appeal,” he tweeted.

      WHO’S MONITORING POSTS ON TWITTER NOW?
      Musk laid off about half of Twitter’s staff after he bought the platform and later eliminated an unknown number of contract workers who had focused on content moderation. Some workers who were kept on soon quit, including Yoel Roth, Twitter’s former head of trust and safety.

      The departure of so many employees raised questions about how the platform could enforce its policies against harmful misinformation, hate speech and threats of violence, both within the U.S. and across the globe. Automated tools can help detect spam and some suspicious accounts, but others take more careful human review.

      It’s likely the reductions will force Twitter to concentrate content moderation efforts on regions with stronger regulations governing social media platforms like Europe, where tech companies could face big fines under the new Digital Services Act if they don’t make an effort to combat misinformation and hate speech, according to Bhaskar Chakravorti, dean of global business at the Fletcher School at Tufts University.

      “The staff has been decimated,” Chakravorti said. “The few content moderators left are going to be focused on Europe, because Europe is the squeakiest wheel.”

      HAS THERE BEEN AN IMPACT?
      Since Musk bought Twitter a number of researchers and advocacy groups have pointed to an increase in posts containing racial epithets or attacks on Jewish people, gays, lesbians and transgender people.

      In many cases, the posts were written by users who said they were trying to test Twitter’s new boundaries.

      According to Musk, Twitter acted quickly to reduce the overall visibility of the posts, and that overall engagement with hate speech is down since he purchased the company, a finding disputed by researchers.

      The most obvious sign of change at Twitter are the formerly banned users whose accounts have been reinstated, a list that includes Trump, satire site The Babylon Bee, the comedian Kathy Griffin, Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson and, before he was kicked off again, Ye. Twitter has also reinstated accounts of neo-Nazis white supremacists including Andrew Anglin, the creator of the white supremacist website Daily Stormer -- along with QAnon supporters whom Twitter’s old guard had been removing in masses to prevent hate and misinformation from spreading on the platform.

      In addition, some high-profile tweeters like Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene who were previously banned for spreading misinformation about COVID-19 have resumed posting misleading claims about vaccine safety and sham cures.

      Musk, who has spread false claims about COVID-19 himself, returned to the topic this with a tweet this week that mocked transgender pronouns while calling for criminal charges against Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert and one of the leaders of the country’s COVID response.

      Calling himself a “free-speech absolutist,” Musk has said he wants to allow all content that’s legally permissible on Twitter but also that he wants to downgrade negative and hateful posts. Instead of removing toxic content, Musk’s call for “freedom of speech, not freedom of reach” suggests Twitter may leave such content up without recommending it or amplifying it to other users.

      But after cutting out most of Twitter’s policy-making executives and outside advisers, Musk often appears to be the arbiter of what crosses the line. Last month, Musk himself announced that he was booting Ye after the rapper formerly known as Kanye West posted an image of a swastika merged with a Star of David, a post that was not illegal but deeply offensive. The move led to questions about what rules govern what can and can’t be posted on the platform.