Censorship from the Government has Finally been Leaked.

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The FBI warned Twitter during weekly meetings prior to the 2020 election that the social media giant could expect "hack-and-leak operations" by "state actors" involving Hunter Biden, according to a declaration by Twitter’s former head of site integrity.
These warnings came ahead of Twitter censoring the New York Post's bombshell October 2020 report on Hunter Biden's business dealings found on his laptop, citing its "hacked materials" policy. At the time, the FBI had been in possession of his laptop for nearly a year.
"I was told in these meetings that the intelligence community expected that individuals associated with political campaigns would be subject to hacking attacks and that material obtained through those hacking attacks would likely be disseminated over social media platforms, including Twitter," Twitter’s former head of site integrity Yoel Roth said in a Dec. 21, 2020, declaration to the Federal Election Commission, the New York Post reported.

On Friday, Musk dropped the first installment of “The Twitter Files,” a collection of internal documents revealing the scope of the company’s censorship of the groundbreaking report. Email correspondence analyzed by journalist Matt Taibbi confirmed that the company’s first justification for the blackout was that the story violated its “hacked materials policy.” Some senior leadership expressed skepticism over the validity of that excuse, leading to internal confusion, according to emails.

The government be controlling everything. And they broke the first amendment.
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  • Nothing has "finally been leaked."  US Intelligence has been open and consistent about their assessment of the Hunter Biden Laptop story as a likely Russian disinformation campaign since the NY Post printed a bunch of fake news about that laptop in October 2020.
  • Unless the Trump Adminstration strongarmed or coerced Twitter in some way, then calling Twitter's decision "government censorship" is just more fake news.  If you believe in Free Market Capitalism then private companies have to have ultimate soverienity over what they publish and they are free to consult with police agencies for their opinion about whether a crime has been committed or whether a purported news story is in fact another Republican-sponsored attempt by foreign enemies to interfere with US elections.
    • In a free market, Republicans ought not be in the business of publishing fake news or pressuring  private companies into lending credibility to  their fake news with fake claims of censorship and phony victimization.
  • We know for a fact that items reported by the NY Post as present on Biden's laptop were manufactured after the laptop was subpoenaed by the FBI, including fake news the Post reported as evidence of criminal activity.  
    • Since Murdoch's News Coroporation has been shown to be guilty of publishing falsified claims about Bidnen's laptop without any attempt at authentification, responsible news consumers should disregard all News Corp reporting (NY Post, FOX News, WSJ) regarding Biden's laptop as just more poltical propaganda.
    • As far as we can tell, only a small percentage of the data Republcans claim came from Hunter's laptop actually came from Hunter's laptop and none of that authentic data has been showed to indicate criminal activity of any kind. 
      • The fact that the FBI has had custody of at least one hard drive for three years without filing any charges is telling.
      • On the other hand, no additional evidence suggesting Russian interference has emerged, either.
  • Ultimately, this story remains unchanged since Guiliani unsuccessfully pitched it to WSJ in Sept 2020:  a laptop that was in the hands of multiple poltical enemies of Biden's and has been so profoundly tampered with that less than 20% of the data discovered on it seems to be authentic generally confirms that Hunter Biden fucks prostitutes and snort cocaine. 
    • So far, no authenticated document suggests any financial or political wrongdoing of any kind.


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There are no laws to prohibit the ongoing project Mockingbird from the alphabet agencies.

In fact, now nearly bankrupt CNN regularly hosted American intelligence officers for the sole purpose to spread misinformation promoting self-serving Washington DC and turning the American people on themselves.

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New Jersey mother being told she is being “monitored” by local law enforcement at the behest of military personnel who didn’t like her social media posts questioning sexualisation of children in school.

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Interestingly, Musk identified FBI plants and removed them because Musk is not a willing participant of operation mockingbird.

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New Jersey mother being told she is being “monitored” by local law enforcement at the behest of military personnel who didn’t like her social media posts questioning sexualisation of children in school.
As Vice President of the Northern Burlington School Board, ( just calling her "New Jersery mother" is deceptively hiding her polical office) Angela Reading has a long history of trying to shut down the "No Place for Hate" anti-discrimination program in the school district and trying to prevent student activism complaining of racial and sexual discrimination in the district.  The particular Facebook post that alarmed people identified specific "pro-trans tolerance" students at a specific high school on the Tuesday following the targeted murder of trans people at a Colorodo Springs Nightclub.  Reading's post also deceptively suggested that the "pro-trans" support poster was at her 2nd grade daughter's school when in fact, Reading herself brought her 7 year-old to a scheduled discussion of sexual subjects.

Obviously, some parents objected to their children being targeted by right-wing polticians in the wake of that violence, including some parents from the local military base.
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"No Place for Hate" 

"No Place for White Supremacists" 

"No Place for Niggers" 

"No Place for Jews" 

Same song, different harmony.
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who didn’t like her social media posts questioning sexualisation of children in school.
In America, it is now considered a hate crime to obstruct sexual grooming in minors.

Project Veritas recently exposed a school handing out dildos and butt plugs to minors to help groom them for sex.

The school vowed to press charges, criminal if possible.
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It was last week that Elon Musk dangled the arrival of a promised multiday blitz of internal company documents, a stunt he pumped up to his 120 million followers — starting with the backstory on the company’s late-2020 decision to block users from sharing coverage of Hunter Biden’s leaked laptop files.
The first episode came on Friday night, in a 40-tweet thread from journalist Matt Taibbi, who had been provided some of the company’s internal files and emails.

Five days later, for all Musk’s promotion and drum-rolling, there have been no further releases — just a freewheeling online chat Saturday night that featured a cast of colorful personalities talking about free speech.

The delay offers a window into some of the challenges Musk is facing as he attempts a radical overhaul of the platform he just bought — changing not just the company’s staffing and strategy, but its politics, shifting a largely progressive-leaning platform to one committed to a more libertarian vision of free speech.
Taibbi said Tuesday that complications involving a Twitter lawyer had been holding up the rest of the documents, suggesting the lawyer was working at odds with Musk’s executives. Musk had tweeted 20 minutes earlier that the lawyer had been “exited” from the company.
In an earlier text exchange with POLITICO, Taibbi had pointed to internal conflict — and Twitter’s own corporate culture — as the source of the delay. “The company is used to operating in open defiance of its CEO,” Taibbi said. “Now, most of those higher-ranking people are gone, but this is still a logistical battle more than anything. So if you see delays and other head-scratching things, please keep that in mind.”
Twitter didn’t respond to a request for comment.
According to Musk, the company’s internal files have been opened to both Taibbi and to Bari Weiss, a former New York Times and Wall Street Journal opinion writer. Both writers are outspoken critics of perceived liberal groupthink in mainstream media — a cause to which Musk is increasingly devoting his new platform.
Taibbi, whose tweet thread Friday night is the only release of internal documents so far, said that Weiss would be posting the next installment. Weiss did not respond to emails requesting comment.

In offering fresh details on the Hunter Biden laptop story, Musk is reviving a favorite hobbyhorse of conservative media critics. In the runup to the 2020 election, Twitter decided to block any links to the New York Post’s coverage of the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop. Users couldn’t post the story or even link to it in private messages, and the Post itself got its account suspended for more than two weeks for refusing to delete a tweet about the story.

Twitter reversed the suspension and the restrictions, but the episode was widely seen by conservative and libertarian critics as a Biden-friendly move by a social media platform whose leaders increasingly leaned progressive. Twitter’s CEO at the time, Jack Dorsey, later said he regretted the decision.
The release is the latest political frenzy Musk has waded into since he bought Twitter for $44 billion in late October. After laying off much of its staff and attempting to reassure advertisers that Twitter would take a cautious approach to restoring banned accounts, Musk then reinstated former President Donald Trump’s account based on the outcome of an informal online poll, engaged in a brief spat with Apple over rumors it might remove Twitter from its app store, and banned rapper Ye, better known as Kanye West — whom Musk had seemed to embrace just a few weeks earlier — after he tweeted an image of a swastika.

On Tuesday night, Taibbi tweeted that he and Weiss had received the company’s internal files from a lawyer close to Musk’s team.
The correspondence he reviewed ahead of the Friday release, Taibbi said, was a subset of internal Twitter records that had been preserved for litigation. At least some of those records were set aside as part of Twitter’s response to a Federal Election Commission complaint filed against Twitter by the Tea Party Patriots Foundation, he said.
In the 2020 complaint, which has since been dismissed, the Tea Party Patriots Foundation alleged that Twitter’s suppression of the New York Post’s reporting on Hunter Biden’s computer files amounted to an in-kind contribution to Joe Biden’s campaign.

President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden leave church in Johns Island, S.C. | Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP Photo
In addition to the internal correspondence released by Taibbi, Twitter had given one earlier window into how it handled the laptop story: In December 2020, it filed a public response to the FEC complaint.
In a sworn declaration filed with the response, former Twitter executive Yoel Roth said he had participated in regular meetings with representatives of the FBI, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Homeland Security and “industry peers,” to discuss disinformation and hacking threats in the runup to the presidential vote. At those meetings, Roth said in the declaration, he was told to expect a hack-and-leak operation in October and picked up rumors that Hunter Biden would be a target of such an operation.
Roth, who left Twitter following Musk’s takeover, has said it was a “mistake” to censor the New York Post’s story. He did not respond to a request for comment.
Brandon Borrman, Twitter’s former communications chief, who was named alongside Dorsey as a defendant in the FEC complaint, and whose communications were part of Friday’s disclosures, condemned the release of internal Twitter communications.
“It’s quite disappointing how little concern there is for the harm this can do to the people who weren’t involved,” he told POLITICO.
Jenny Beth Martin, president of the Tea Party Patriots Foundation, said in an interview that she had instructed her lawyer to review the released files to determine if they provided an avenue for appealing the dismissal of her FEC complaint.
Friday’s release showed Twitter executives grappling with how to handle the New York Post’s story. It included no evidence that government officials asked the platform to censor it.
Trump reacted to the release by suggesting it provided a basis for overturning the results of the 2020 election, drawing rebukes from both Musk and the Biden White House.
Taibbi said he is continuing to review the internal files and has only seen a portion of them thus far. He said the documents he had reviewed as of Sunday night provided more fodder for his longstanding critiques of online censorship, but have yet to yield major bombshells. “So far what I’ve seen mostly just confirms what we know, though it’s embarrassing to read,” he said.



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Twitter CEO Elon Musk promoted a series of tweets on Friday revealing internal documents about how the company handled a news article about Hunter Biden in 2020, controversially blocking people from tweeting and direct-messaging about it.

In a lengthy tweet thread, writer Matt Taibbi said he received “thousands of internal documents” from sources at Twitter — and Musk himself tweeted “Here we go!! 🍿🍿” when the thread began. NBC News has not seen or verified those files.
The thread came after Musk teased that past inner workings of Twitter would be exposed. On Monday, he said the “Twitter Files on free speech suppression” would soon be published, adding that the public has a right to know about past discussions there.

Early into the evening on Friday, the thread mostly revealed deliberations both internally and externally — including with Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif. — about Twitter’s move to restrict access to the article. Khanna appeared to question Twitter’s reasoning for blocking the story.
Musk tweeted in response to one of Taibbi’s tweets: “Ro Khanna is great”
In response to a request for comment, Khanna said he believes the Constitution and First Amendment are “sacred.”
“As the congressman who represents Silicon Valley, I felt Twitter’s actions were a violation of First Amendment principles so I raised those concerns,” Khanna said in a statement. “Our democracy can only thrive if we are open to a marketplace of ideas and engaging with people with whom we disagree.”

Taibbi’s characterization of the documents amounted to a sharp criticism of how Twitter’s previous management — before Musk bought it in October for $44 billion — handled the situation and ran the company, alleging without clear evidence that it was biased toward Democrats.
Many of the details released on Friday night had already been public, including the steps the company took around the New York Post article from October 2020 that alleged it had a “smoking-gun email” between Hunter Biden and a Ukrainian businessman. Still, the disclosures are all but guaranteed to roil debate about social media censorship and free speech online.
Shortly after Taibbi’s last post in Friday night’s thread, House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy of California tweeted, “In 32 days, the new House Republican majority will get answers for the American people and the accountability they deserve.”
The emails shared by Taibbi show a lengthy internal debate among Twitter employees — including at least two former staffers to Republican senators — about how best to handle the New York Post story and how to talk about that handling to the public and to lawmakers.

Taibbi also included screenshots of emails of requests from unidentified people in the Biden administration, asking contacts at Twitter to take action against certain tweets. Versions of those tweets seen by NBC News on the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, which archives web pages, show that many if not all of the tweets in question violated Twitter rules. At least three of those tweets involved photographs of Hunter Biden.
Taibbi, a longtime magazine journalist who now writes a newsletter, is known for his provocative style and colorful turns of phrase. In 2009, he coined the term “giant vampire squid” to describe investment bank Goldman Sachs. Musk and Taibbi have had a friendly relationship on Twitter. In May, Musk shared an edition of Taibbi’s newsletter that criticized California regulators.
The controversy involving Twitter and Hunter Biden dates to October 2020, weeks before the presidential election between Joe Biden and then-President Donald Trump. The New York Post article on Oct. 14, 2020, quoted from what it said was an email to the younger Biden, thanking him for introducing the businessman to his father, who was vice president at the time.
The email was part of a cache of documents provided to the New York Post by Trump’s then-personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who said he obtained the files from a laptop dropped off at a Delaware computer store. At that time, Giuliani declined to share a copy of the hard drive with NBC News.

Twitter and Facebook both moved to limit the spread of the article. Twitter blocked people from tweeting out the link to the New York Post story or sending it in private messages — a highly unusual step by the social media app. Facebook said it was “reducing” distribution of the article while third-party fact-checkers reviewed it.
Twitter has a policy against the distribution of “hacked materials,” a product of how political operatives stole and then leaked Democrats’ emails during the 2016 election. And it cited that policy as one of the reasons it had throttled the article.
Musk has previously been critical of Twitter’s actions during the 2020 election. In April this year, he said it had been “obviously incredibly inappropriate” for Twitter to freeze the account of the New York Post.
Taibbi wrote that he has seen no evidence that there was government involvement in Twitter’s move to block the New York Post story.

The FBI’s possible role in tech companies’ decisions to limit the reach of the New York Post article came to light in August, when Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that the FBI did not specifically warn about the laptop but that it “fit the pattern” of what the bureau had warned about. The FBI said in response that it provides companies with “foreign threat indicators” but can’t ask companies to take action.
Shortly after the New York Post published the article, Twitter pointed to concerns about hacked materials as the reason for blocking the story.
“We don’t want to incentivize hacking by allowing Twitter to be used as distribution for possibly illegally obtained materials,” Twitter said Oct. 14, 2020, in an explanation of its moves.
But by the end of the day on Oct. 14, the day the New York Post article was published, Twitter was already expressing some concern with how the company handled the situation. Jack Dorsey, then the Twitter CEO, said it was “unacceptable” to have blocked links to the article without context as to why.

Zuckerberg separately defended his company’s actions, saying they were on heightened alert for election interference after Russian operatives used Facebook in 2016 to attempt to swing the presidential election that year. Zuckerberg cited warnings from the FBI about election-related threats, though none about Hunter Biden in particular.
Republican lawmakers have since cited tech companies’ handling of the story as evidence of alleged bias against their party — though the opposite has often been true.
Earlier this year, a Giuliani representative gave NBC News a copy of the laptop’s hard drive, and an NBC News analysis of the drive, an iCloud account and documents from two Senate committees showed Hunter Biden and his company had received about $11 million through his work as an attorney and board member with a Ukrainian company accused of bribery and his work with a Chinese businessman who has also been accused of fraud.
Hunter Biden has said that federal prosecutors in Delaware are investigating his taxes. He has not been charged. He has denied any wrongdoing.

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The government be controlling everything. And they broke the first amendment.
This entire episode occurred while Trump was still president. So the claim as I understand it, is that the Donald Trump lead government stopped free speech which could have gotten Donald Trump re-elected. Am I missing something here?

Moreover, what exactly is this alleged first amendment violation you speak of?  Are you suggesting Twitter did not ultimately decide what it was willing to allow on it's platform?

Please explain what you are alleging, because none of this makes any sense.
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In America, it is now considered a hate crime to obstruct sexual grooming in minors.
Classic right wing fantasy concoction at work.

Step 1: Invent a non existent problem

Step 2: Take action to solve this nonexistent problem (that just so happens to come at the expense of the rights of others)

Step 3: When the rights of others is defended, pretend that the defenders are actually fighting for the nonexistent problem to persist

Step 4: Once told you are not allowed to violate the rights of others to solve your nonexistent problem, play the victim by claiming your rights are the ones that were actually violated
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Taibbi wrote that he has seen no evidence that there was government involvement in Twitter’s move to block the New York Post story.
Thank you.  Your sources confirm what I said yesterday:  the government took no action to censor the Hunter Biden story.

Nor is it news that the FBI met with Twitter and Facebook.  Dorsey and Zuckerberg testified about those meetings just weeks after the NY Post story broke.

So... when you said , "Censorship from the government"  that was quite false, right?

When you said, "FInally been leaked" that was a second bit of fake news.  There is no new information regarding the laptop story.  No information has been leaked by anybody that wasn't 100% in the open two years ago.

Why are you pretending that something new has happened?  Because FOX News tells you to? 


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Step 1: Invent a non existent problem

Step 2: Take action to solve this nonexistent problem (that just so happens to come at the expense of the rights of others)

Step 3: When the rights of others is defended, pretend that the defenders are actually fighting for the nonexistent problem to persist

Step 4: Once told you are not allowed to violate the rights of others to solve your nonexistent problem, play the victim by claiming your rights are the ones that were actually violated
.......this is literally democrats.

Examples:
Global Warming
LGBTQ+ Agenda
Womans Rights
BLM
etc.


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There is no new information regarding the laptop story.  No information has been leaked by anybody that wasn't 100% in the open two years ago.
Elon Musk literally just found out that the same Lawer that tried to get trump impeached, has been working as a filter system in twitter for all the things that the biased government didn't want out in the media.

Just happened a couple of days ago.

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And you are right. Twitter is a private company, and it has the right to do what it wants to.
But it becomes a violation, when the government steps in, and tells twitter what to sensor and what to keep. That is the government, censoring free speech, which is a DIRECT violation, of our first amendment rights.
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Step 1: Invent a non existent problem

Step 2: Take action to solve this nonexistent problem (that just so happens to come at the expense of the rights of others)

Step 3: When the rights of others is defended, pretend that the defenders are actually fighting for the nonexistent problem to persist

Step 4: Once told you are not allowed to violate the rights of others to solve your nonexistent problem, play the victim by claiming your rights are the ones that were actually violated
.......this is literally democrats.

Examples:
Global Warming
LGBTQ+ Agenda
Womans Rights
BLM
etc.
Covid
Media censorship

Just to name a couple more. 
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Musk is breaking the code, Matrix boutta slap that boy into place!
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There is no new information regarding the laptop story.  No information has been leaked by anybody that wasn't 100% in the open two years ago.
Elon Musk literally just found out that the same Lawer that tried to get trump impeached, has been working as a filter system in twitter for all the things that the biased government didn't want out in the media.

Just happened a couple of days ago.
  • False.  Elon Musk claims that he fired Jim Baker for vetting the documents release.  SInce it looks like Musk is about to get slammed with a bunch of invasion of privacy lawsuit for mass releasing huge amounts of employee daily interactions without redacting the personal shit or getting employees permission, getting a lawyer to vet those docs sure sounds like it would have been a good idea.  (I don't claims that's what Baker was doing- I don't what he was doing or whether Musk's claims have any accuracy.)
    • In any case, Jim Baker is famously, prominently, an ultra-conservative Republican who is definitely not looking to help the Biden family out and any suggestion by you to that effect is totally made up bullshit.  
    • JIm Baker was not "the same Lawer [sic] that tired to get trump [sic] impeached."  JIm Baker was Chief Counsel for the FBI from 2014 to 2018 and in that capacity was part the investigation into the hundreds of secret meetings Trump's people had with Russian spies before the election and lied about so vigorously ever since.  That investigation was turned over to Mueller.
      • Trump was impeached the first time for a recorded phone conversation with Ukrainian President  Zelenksy where he demanded that Zelensky manufacture false evidence about Hunter Biden in exchange for $400 million worth of weapons for repelling the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
      • Trump was impeached the second time for incitement of insurrection against the US Government.
      • Jim Baker had left the FBI before the First Impeachment so this is your THIRD LIE.  Why did you tell this lie?  What did you hope to gain?
  • Your FOURTH LIE is "[JIm Baker] has been working as a filter system in twitter for all the things that the biased government didn't want out in the media.
    • Nobody has made this claim- not Musk or Taibbi, certainly, because they both know that Baker is an ultra-conservative Republican.
    • In fact, you directly contradict Taibbi's statement:  "that he has seen no evidence that there was government involvement in Twitter’s move to block the New York Post story."
      • Who do you claim is lying here, you or your primary source?
      • Why did you tell this lie?  What did you hope to gain?
    • Musk released thousands of documents last Friday that only verify shit we've already known for years:
      • That there was much internal discussion about whether to  allow the laptop story since it was obviously fake news.
      • Twitter mgmt. eventually decided to filter iyt  the story but CEO Dorsey overrode that decsion days later.  
        • All of this was openly reported at the time.
      • Twitter honored multiple requests by both the Trump and Biden campaigns to delete certain tweets for various reasons.  Although Trump was President at the time, there is no suggestion that he used his power of office to force Twitter's editorial decision.
  • Let me state again:
    • There is no new information regarding the laptop story.  No information has been leaked by anybody that wasn't 100% in the open two years ago.
    • Please state anything that you think has been newly revealed.  
      • As Wikipedia describes it, "Taibbi's Twitter thread largely confirmed what was already known and did not contain any significant new revelations"
    • You've told at least four pretty big whoppers here that even Tucker Carlson won't back you on....why?

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and tells twitter what to sensor and what to keep. That is the government, censoring free speech, which is a DIRECT violation, of our first amendment rights.
  • agreed, which is why it is a good thing that there is zero evidence that this ever happened even once.  Taibbi, Tucker, Musk do not back you up when make this claim.  
    • Why do you keep repeating this lie?

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You keep making these claims that it never happened, yet you have yet to show me a shred of evidence that it hasn't happened.

Try to find evidence about this topic, and you will see that you will find loads of information, on what I just told you.


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I can show you evidence of this happening, yet you only deny that it is happening. 

Show me some evidence of this occurrence not being real.


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There are those with fatal character flaws where one cannot think for himself unless he has authority figures to form opinions for him. So if Tucker Carlson says it's not a violation of free speech to have the government pressure private businesses to censor speech against the government, then it does not violate the constitution.

Because Tucker said so.
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There are those with fatal character flaws where one cannot think for himself unless he has authority figures to form opinions for him. So if Tucker Carlson says it's not a violation of free speech to have the government pressure private businesses to censor speech against the government, then it does not violate the constitution.

Because Tucker said so.
I actually try to stay away from FOX news, because of the right wing bias it holds. 
I go by the constitutional values of this country. 

The fact that such a biased side of the media is laying out factual evidence for this Hunter Biden Laptop case, really shows how much the left has really failed in trying to cover up there own mistakes.
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The government be controlling everything. And they broke the first amendment.
So the FBI, at the time led by Trump appointee Christopher Ray, told Twitter to be vigilant for misinformation generated by foreign governments.

And somehow you think this means they violated free speech? 

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And somehow you think this means they violated free speech? 
Trump appointed a lot of incompetent people.

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 told Twitter to be vigilant for misinformation generated by foreign governments.

And somehow you think this means they violated free speech? 
No, the government, has been telling Twitter to silence certain posts on twitter, which has happened to only be conservatives who were the ones getting silenced, and most of those posts were actual information proven to be true, they just didn't make the Democrats look good. 

The government didn't just ask Twitter to do this, they literally had a government worker, the same lawyer who convicted Trump of being a Russian spy, and used him to silence certain info the GOVERNEMT, not Twitter, the GOVERNMENT wanted silenced.


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the government, has been telling Twitter to silence certain posts on twitter,
That’s a lie. That is not what any of these articles say.

Your speech pattern is off. Is English not your first language?

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.......this is literally democrats.

Examples:
Global Warming
LGBTQ+ Agenda
Womans Rights
BLM
etc.

False equivalences are a specialty of the political right.

Global warming isn't an invented problem, it reflects the findings of the global scientific community.

LGBTQ "agenda"? WTF?

How does "woman's rights" even make sense in this sentence?

BLM is the only halfway legitimate argument one can make, setting aside example after example after example of black people getting shot and killed by police which lead it's prominence. But that's just step 1, you forgot about the rest. The only action "the left" has proposed in order to solve the problem is to take resources from law enforcement and use them in such a way that reduces the need for law enforcement in the first place. Which if the numbers of any proposal check out would be a common sense improvement.
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No, the government, has been telling Twitter to silence certain posts on twitter
Warning Twitter about potential foreign misinformation is not a violation of the first amendment. Twitter ultimately decided what content it would allow on it's platform and the government made no attempt to coerce Twitter in it's decision making.

That's how the first amendment is supposed to work. Why is this so difficult for you?

You keep making these claims that it never happened, yet you have yet to show me a shred of evidence that it hasn't happened.
There is no such thing as evidence of this not happening. The time to believe a claim is when evidence had been provided for it, you started this thread and provided nothing.