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You aren't fucking talking to Donald Trump  on this site. Trump doesn't have a god damn thing to do with it. You are just rude and insulting for no good reason and it amazes me that the mods still allow you on this site.
THANK YOU!!!
AMEN!!!!

His attitude, demeanor, behavior and disposition are just pure childish pestilence. 
One can only hope that sooner than later the mods will do something about this JarHead clown.
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IwantRooseveltagain,

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I have never attacked you personally without provocation, not ever.
You are very snarky. Very snarky and you use a lot of vulgarities. Lots of F bombs. Terrible just terrible dialogue 
Pot meeting fucking kettle!
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Again you don't seem to be able to see the difference between attacking what someone says and attacking them personally . That's all peace out. 
Most people are not capable of discerning the difference, and he is the poster child of such an individual.
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Perhaps this will finally teach Republicans that they need to dump Trump.
Not everything was in GOP’s favor. The abortion decision was pretty huge

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His attitude, demeanor, behavior and disposition are just pure childish pestilence. 
One can only hope that sooner than later the mods will do something about this JarHead clown.
But not you. You’re not purely childish “pestilence”.  Do you need protection? Are you in need of some moderation?

It’s petulance you jackass.

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Bwaaahaaahaaaa!! 

You’re so eff’ing predictable. 

I know it’s not pestilence, but you took that key note hook line and sinker and proved my point with that sophomorically banal profane retort. 

Then again, maybe on some level I was accurate in that adjective. You are a pest. A disease. A cancer of this forum. Many are chalking you up to being nothing more than a troll. Speaks volumes. Pest. You’re a worm. Vermin. A disease. Be gone with you. 
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Again you don't seem to be able to see the difference between attacking what someone says and attacking them personally . That's all peace out. 
Most people are not capable of discerning the difference, and he is the poster child of such an individual.
IwantRooseveltagain,  you should pay attention to TheWhiteSupremacist1405, he's teaching you to "discern the difference", attacking someone's race is OK, but not attacking them individually,  it's not about individuals, it's about race, Judaism, people of color, anyone outside the trailer park, it's not about individuals. Don't be mislead, People of Color is a leftist misnomer designed to trick you, they aren't people, they are just colored, you just can't think of them as people if they aren't white,

I mean, c'mon, he's just trying to help a fellow Aryan, if you don't listen to TheWhiteSupremacist1405 and learm racist etiquette, then you will never do well at Klan rallies, heck, you can't even go to the cross burnings if you don't at least get that.  


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Wow! That was a really awesome sophomorically banal Dunning Kruger Effect retort laced with one logical fallacy after another. Your mamma must be real proud of you!!! 
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Interestingly the GOP is leading the popular vote right now by 6 points. When all the votes are counted it should end up around 3-4%, which would be a 6-7% shift right from 2020, when the GOP came only 5 seats short of a house majority. On paper that should’ve been enough to easily sweep the house but it’s turning into a nailbiter because this time around it’s GOP votes that aren’t distributed efficiently and not Dem votes like in 2016 and 2020. Things can change fast! 


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That just proves how much of dead weight Trump is.
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The senate is more than enough proof of that. I’ve seen a lot of rage directed towards Trump so hopefully his spell is finally breaking. It’s time to move on from him!
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The senate is more than enough proof of that. I’ve seen a lot of rage directed towards Trump so hopefully his spell is finally breaking. It’s time to move on from him!
Moving on won't be easy, you can't get out of a Faustian deal without a lot of pain, Trump knows they can't win without his loyal base and he has threated to leave and start a new party before, they were terrified.  They can't win with him, and they can't win without him, and they put themselves in that position by being gutless cowards, now they pay the price.

Everybody sees DeSantis as the heir to Trumps throne and Trump is not gonna share the spotlight, we already saw that Trump doesn't believe in the peaceful transfer of power, he's coming after DeSantis and that will get ugly, Trump said he has dirt on DeSanctimonious and he'll use it if he runs, it will be interesting to see who DeSantis' Dad killed.  All Trump can really do for the GOP anymore is cause them pain, and it's foing to be a whole  lot of well earned pain.



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The senate is more than enough proof of that. I’ve seen a lot of rage directed towards Trump so hopefully his spell is finally breaking. It’s time to move on from him!
You never should have moved to him to begin with, wouldn’t you say? 

Republicans will need to deal with their choices in much the same way defeated Germany was forced to reconcile and reflect on their choices. There needs to be a reckoning and some people need to be held responsible for bringing Trump to the head of our government. 

Trump supporters need to apologize 
Trump cabinet members need to find a new line of work out of politics or government 
Trump’s inner circle needs to become persona non grata 

Think of corporate executives who were determined to be so destructive and harmful that they were banned from ever working in their industry again.

An example - Frank Lorenzo was banned from running airlines in this country because of what he did to Eastern Airlines 
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Yeah Trump could potentially screw things for the GOP for sure. Based on how well sane Republicans did I think it’s clear that the electorate as a whole doesn’t want Biden and the democrats but they want maga republicans even less. He’s definitely a major liability at the top of the ticket and potentially a fatal backstabber if he wants the nomination and doesn’t get it. But I think Trump being the nominee again would be worse for republicans in the long term than even him throwing the next election to the democrats. “Conservatism =  Trumpsim” is already dangerously close to becoming a long term perception for swing voters 

Trump in my view was like chemotherapy for the GOP. People like the Bush family who got us into disastrous middle eastern wars, or Paul Ryan who would rather cut social security than raise taxes even a little bit, they were a cancer that had to be purged. But once they’re gone the medicine just becomes a poison. He has to go 
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You never should have moved to him to begin with, wouldn’t you say? 
Even now I still think he’s better than someone like a George W. Bush or a Paul Ryan. As bad as Trump is he didn’t start a needless war that killed a million people and he isn’t likely to do so if he becomes president again. And Paul Ryan types go without saying…wanting to cut entitlements is wrong and is political suicide. But there are much better options than Trump for people who don’t want to vote for the Democratic Party 
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Even now I still think he’s better than someone like a George W. Bush or a Paul Ryan
That’s insane. You now have zero credibility. Trump proved himself to be a menace and a subversive.

Trump would absolutely start a war if he thought it would help himself.

Trump killed a million Americans with his incompetent response to Covid. Dr. Birx from his White House said so.




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Moving on won't be easy, you can't get out of a Faustian deal without a lot of pain, Trump knows they can't win without his loyal base and he has threated to leave and start a new party before, they were terrified.  They can't win with him, and they can't win without him, and they put themselves in that position by being gutless cowards, now they pay the price.
If Trump runs as an independent, so be it. It will sink the Republicans, but it will also prove that Trump will put himself before his country and his party.

But what am I saying? That has been incredibly obvious since before he announced his candidacy in 2015, and has only gotten more obvious since. The damage that he has done to the Republican party will take a long time to undo, if it can be undone at all.
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If Trump runs as an independent, so be it. It will sink the Republicans, but it will also prove that Trump will put himself before his country and his party.

But what am I saying? That has been incredibly obvious since before he announced his candidacy in 2015, and has only gotten more obvious since. The damage that he has done to the Republican party will take a long time to undo, if it can be undone at all.

Now this is the kind of statement the country needs to hear from conservatives. Bravo! The opposite of what thett3 said above in post #166

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Now this is the kind of statement the country needs to hear from conservatives. Bravo!
Well, thank you.
The opposite of what thett3 said above in post #166
There you go again. Can you make a post that doesn't criticize anyone? Can you say something positive without using it to bash someone else? Please?
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Look, all I want is sanity. All I want is reality. You don’t have to agree with me but we have to agree that a fact is a fact, starting with the Big Lie. The lie that the election was rigged. Such nonsense. Nobody can believe the Big Lie and retain a thread of credibility. And once you reject the Big Lie you must reject Trump and see him as a threat to our country because of what he tried to do.

Saying Trump was better than Bush or Paul Ryan weakens our democracy and puts us all at risk and must be rejected forcefully. If you say Trump wasn’t that bad or try to minimize what he did you should immediately be escorted from the public square with a dunce cap on your head.

Yes Bush was bad. He was the worst President we ever had until Trump came along but he wasn’t a subversive. He wasn’t a naked self dealer. He was stupid but he wasn’t corrupt. He didn’t lie 30,000 times in 4 years.
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None of that explains why you have to bash someone in every post you make. There's an old saying that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. If you want to change people's minds, you need to be civil, even, and perhaps especially, if they don't deserve it. But if you want people to dig in their heels and cling to their false beliefs, then insults and derision are excellent tactics.
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The senate is more than enough proof of that. I’ve seen a lot of rage directed towards Trump so hopefully his spell is finally breaking. It’s time to move on from him!
Somehow, everyone realizing and rightfully blaming Trump will lead to his ardent followers to supporting him more. It’s like the mere criticism of him is his appeal, like it makes him more of an “outsider” to these people.

Maybe the establishment hates him for the wrong reasons, but they are correct. The mere fact that someone like Mitch McConnell or a similar character dislikes him isn’t an automatic endorsement- at least it shouldn’t be.

Im almost certain Trump will win the primary and will lose the general election barring some monumental failure on the part of democrats.

I think up until about 2 years ago, Trump had a fantastic impact on the party. The policies he supported gave hope to the party. But lately, he has been throwing his positive legacy away and doing far more harm to the direction he pushed things in than good.
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Honestly, Trump being taken out of the picture from natural causes is probably the best hope for the GOP. Because there is no way in hell he would lose the primary and not tell all of his supporters it was rigged by the GOP and that they shouldn’t vote for the winner.

He also couldn’t do anymore damage to the change he started, and he wouldn’t be around to endorse candidates out of some loyalty test
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There's an old saying that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. 
Ya I hate that saying and I kill my flies with a fly swatter 

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That doesn't make it any less true.
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If you want to change people's minds, you need to be civil, even, and perhaps especially, if they don't deserve it.
That only works with RATIONAL people. See bmdrocks comment for another opinion that Trumpers aren’t rational people.

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I think up until about 2 years ago, Trump had a fantastic impact on the party. 
How so? I know he made lots of appeals to racist fear mongering. What did you like exactly? The trillion dollar deficit caused by tax cuts for the wealthy?

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Nah, I take it back. Your mamma must be hugely disappointed in you. Name calling little childish whore that you are. 
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The trillion dollar deficit caused by tax cuts for the wealthy?
Pretending to care about deficits now? That rings as hollow as McConnell complaining about it

How so?
By being splitting with the unpopular policies that led to McCain and Romney getting annihilated