Arkhamafia DP1

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So there is a third party in this game that is not jester? Interesting
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I'll see if I can fix that? 
Wym lol
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This was Corey’s and Crystal’s only game. They were replaced DP2.

Credit to Supa for the archive
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Just messing with you. I think we need to find out if town loses once we are not majority or once we can no longer lynch all of Mafia 
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1.Wylted
2.whiteflame
3.ILikePie5 - Bruce Wayne/Batman - Pacifist
4.Barney
5.SirAnonymous
6.SupaDudz
7.Earth
8.Coreyinthehouse
9.crystalynx

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Does town lose if they are no longer a majority? 
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With 9 players it’s probably 6-2-1 right now.

With one mislynch and NK it’s 4-2-1

With two mislynches and NKs it’s 2-2-1. Mafia can still theoretically be voted out in this scenario, so I’d assume scum wincon is that they have to be a majority of the township
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Does town lose if they are no longer a majority? 
No
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Nice of Pie to out himself. I can't find anything about Pacifist on MS, but I admit town might need to vote him off eventually if my memory of how 3rd party roles work in mafia is accurate.
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My justification is that Batman’s one rule is not killing anyone, rather he wants to save people.

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Jokes aside, what's your win condition?

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Do you have any mafia experience from outside this site? 
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I am also curious about your win condition.
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So a third party is not included in the calculation of whether mafia has won or not?

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FYI, I will not be very active today.
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I do remember that game. Glad you're both participating again. It's been a while, so hopefully you'll both involve yourselves more this game. Especially if you're still rather new to this, you get far more out of the experience with more engagement.
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3rd party out yourself right now and perhaps town can spare you 
Ya, I hate playing as Third Party

I’m Bruce Wayne/Batman and I’m the Third Party Pacifist. I cannot attempt to hammer. Any attempt to do so will result in a mod-kill.

My justification is that Batman’s one rule is not killing anyone, rather he wants to save people.

That2 has informed me that I can joint-win with Town, and that’s what I plan on doing.
I hadn't heard of this, so I read up on it. The Pacifist role, at least from what I've read, usually has some association with preventing lynches and/or kills rather than simply being unable to hammer. That tends to be more associated with the Priest role, though not always. It makes sense for the character, though calling Batman a "pacifist" is a stretch regardless. Still, in a game with this theme, Batman was almost certainly going to be here, so I doubt this is a fake claim.
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Does town lose if they are no longer a majority? 
No
That's a surprisingly direct answer and it lends credence to Pie's claim, since a third party that wins with town adds one to the town pool.
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Countering this claim. I am the third party. I just saw his wincon is third party

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I am the Harlequin of Hatge (aka the Joker). I am a Survivor JOAT. I win with whoever has the majority of people on their side at the end of the day, so it can be with town or scum, but odds are I will be siding town statistically speaking and now that Pie is scum

My only goals are to create chaos and survive. I have 3 abilities which allow me do so.
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pie is scum because I am the third party
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While the possibility of 2 3P exists, Pie admits himself that the setup is a 6-2-1. Which now begs me the question, why would he claim that knowing that there is 1. I think Pie just baited me but whatever. 
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But... there is no reason to lynch anyone at this point. I joint win with any affiliation,  so statistically speaking. I win with whatever affiliation is still alive so as long as I am alive so town is my best bet at this point of time
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Survival. I confirmed with That2 that I can joint win with either side.
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Yeah... I don't buy that there are two third parties unless something weird is going on with scum (could just be one scum and two third parties, I guess?). It's interesting that each of you has what are generally agreed to be the most popular characters in this mix (Batman and the Joker). I'd like to see how Pie responds to this.
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Wtf is this 
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@whiteflame
Yeah... I don't buy that there are two third parties unless something weird is going on with scum (could just be one scum and two third parties, I guess?). It's interesting that each of you has what are generally agreed to be the most popular characters in this mix (Batman and the Joker). I'd like to see how Pie responds to this.
I reread the OP and it says “at least one TP exists.” Theoretically that means that 2 could exist, but then is there just one mafia member?



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It specifically says patients though. Why would Batman be locked in Arkham asylum? 

There might be multiple TP but Batman makes no sense

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Two TP claims? Interesting.

First a question for the mod. Do TPs count as town in determining whether the game has ended, or do they not count at all? For example, if there were 2 townies, 2 TPs, and 2 mafia, would it count as 4-2 or 2-2?