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I couldn't care less if your behaviour is different, something is very off about it. You have indeed acted different though.
I don’t think so.

For instance right there you pointed to other people to intimidate me or rally others behind you, that's not your normal style at all. You normally just 1v1 aggressively when under pressure as Town or annoyed even.
Again, where’s your evidence. I fully believe in the strength of town. I will claim if town wants me to claim. I’ve been having this group aspect the entire DP, so you’re just flat out wrong.

You are scumtelling more and more, not less and less, it's not even consistent, it's snowballing. I can see it and I can see a difference, it is many things like the way you say things tone-wise, the self-preservation style as opposed to 1v1 kamikaze style you do as Town.

There's a lot to it.
Keep trying dude

You not helping me crack theme here by refusing to out and get whiteflame to out is only your Town game if you'd been against others outing.
What? I have been against everyone outting lol. It was me who put everything up to a vote. Even when That2 claimed, I was disappointed.

This is a big scumtell from you.

As Town when I try to push for a reveal of some kind and you've been against it, you are at the throat of anyone who goes for it.
Cause I don’t want scum to have information? Assuming you’re town, you’ve essentially told scum who to target.

Yet, when people outed their theme 'character' in this, you were fine with it, even enjoying the Islam thing I suggested and asking about it, allowing whiteflame and supa to hide theirs and you too.
They didn’t out their character. They just outted whether they were Islam or not. Their character is their specific conspiracy theory, which they haven’t said yet. I was not fine with That2 claiming. GP was behind you since day 1, if you look at the vote I held.

That's not town-you as I've known him at all, you'd either be totally for it or totally against the revealing and analysis.
That is demonstrably false. I don’t want people to claim character and role as much as possible. Only a couple of people should character claim/full claim in the first day. That has always been my policy. We can analyze theme without characters as shown by left and right wing. At this point you’re just straight up lying
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dude knowing GP is a pr means nothing, I wasn't going to use my power on what easily was a fellow Town PR.
How do you know GP is “easily” a Town PR?

Even if scum claimed vanilla, I am sure only 1 would, helping us in the cc's later. I also was open to be roleblocked, it would be somewhat a wast eto roleblock me over the investigative role (assuming there's only 1) or whatever. I don't know.
Exactly, you don’t know. Scum could have a Lawyer or a GF as well. You literally do not know.

I knew my role was terrible to have as Town, I knew it was only good if I used it right and then PRs stayed hidden past GP and That2 who participated in what I wanted, one of which was a vanilla claim, so I outed knowing in the end I'd look so scummy now.
You definitely look a lot more scummier
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They could have a Roleblocker
I am 99% certain that the scum team has very powerful blocking abilities if there are so many power roles out there.
Let's hope the right townie draws the block; kinda hate the randomness but it is what it is.
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I needed other PRs to out. I also wanted it because it forced Scum to not escape with an easy vanilla claim later if they are planning ahead. I wanted to incentivise both scum to claim PR and be in the pool I aim at, assuming we mislynch it leaves my power highly utilisable.
I don’t think you realize that every claim is suspect at MYLO if we mislynch today. Whether they claimed Vanilla or not.

And again, you don’t know what roles scum has to put your ability out of commission assuming you’re town
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I am 99% certain that the scum team has very powerful blocking abilities if there are so many power roles out there.
Let's hope the right townie draws the block; kinda hate the randomness but it is what it is.
We have a far better chance going random than having everyone out their roles lol. Please explain that to RM cause his tunnel vision is blocking our intimate connection right now
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We have to out everyone's theme item/character imemdiately ASAP to crack the theme, the longer we let people hide, the longer scum can fake it well but now that is you, whiteflame and supa so I am talking to the person I suspect most, appealing to them to help me crack theme it is pointless to me.

There are many themesplite possible in reality if it's just a random 'these 2 have this in common, the rest don't' thing.

I am extremely sure Supadudz is town with me because he said he is 100% right wing.

In fact right now I will out what I think his theory is: Q anon and/or the election steal (they are intertwined). My theory is a subset of the shit that was come up with during the Q anon theories (which are more about the pedophile ring and whatever).

I know it is scummy that I said what I think he is but surely that has to be in the game and why else would he say he's 100% right wing?

So that makes me wonder what the hell yours is. There arent many right-wing theories left after classic right-wing ones like holocaust denial and Q anon are taken other than weird ones like my Michael Obama one. Are you the theory that Obama wasn't born in US or what?

Tell me, i don't care anymore about what bullshit you are saying.

Tell me your damn theme item and help me crack the theme or you are scum (you can be anyway, I don't care anymore as you are acting so scummyand obstructive).

Scum has information no matter what, it's town that lacks the information. We need the information out there to crack this.
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Please help me make a case for that2 or supa.
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 at MYLO if we mislynch today. 
It would be LYLO if we mislynch today. It's also patently obvious, clear as day that everyone is a suspect.

Sole vanilla claim is pretty much clear though unless it's an all Pr setup. It's about probability, seeing the balance, predicting things.
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That2 hasn't played scummy at all.
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We have to out everyone's theme item/character imemdiately ASAP to crack the theme, the longer we let people hide, the longer scum can fake it well but now that is you, whiteflame and supa so I am talking to the person I suspect most, appealing to them to help me crack theme it is pointless to me.
Just for scum to know everything about everyone? Absolutely the fuck not.

There are many themesplite possible in reality if it's just a random 'these 2 have this in common, the rest don't' thing.

I am extremely sure Supadudz is town with me because he said he is 100% right wing.
You were willing to vote him just the other day as a third alternative to my lynch.

In fact right now I will out what I think his theory is: Q anon and/or the election steal (they are intertwined). My theory is a subset of the shit that was come up with during the Q anon theories (which are more about the pedophile ring and whatever).
*sigh*

I know it is scummy that I said what I think he is but surely that has to be in the game and why else would he say he's 100% right wing?

So that makes me wonder what the hell yours is. There arent many right-wing theories left after classic right-wing ones like holocaust denial and Q anon are taken other than weird ones like my Michael Obama one. Are you the theory that Obama wasn't born in US or what?

Tell me, i don't care anymore about what bullshit you are saying.
I am telling you nothing.

Tell me your damn theme item and help me crack the theme or you are scum (you can be anyway, I don't care anymore as you are acting so scummyand obstructive).

Scum has information no matter what, it's town that lacks the information. We need the information out there to crack this.
You’re actually an idiot. Scum has more utility if everyone claims. How can you not get that you’re freakin brain.
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I wouldn't put it past scum to claim vanilla.
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Please help me make a case for that2 or supa.
I will reread the DP today after class to see if I can catch anything about anyone
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You were willing to vote him just the other day as a third alternative to my lynch.
He hasn't acted very towny at all, let's agree and as scum he will literally at times defend his partner that overtly as he defended you here.

This is all stuff I stand by having said.

However, the theme and the way the 'character' claims are going, mean he has to be on my side thematically unless Mharman truly bastard split the theme.
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@RationalMadman
It would be LYLO if we mislynch today. It's also patently obvious, clear as day that everyone is a suspect.
You are right, my math was off. 

If everyone is suspect, why do you townread literally everyone except me lmao

Sole vanilla claim is pretty much clear though unless it's an all Pr setup. It's about probability, seeing the balance, predicting things.
You’re engaging in mod psyche here, which is literally like predicting what the price of bitcoin will be a year from now 

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He hasn't acted very towny at all, let's agree and as scum he will literally at times defend his partner that overtly as he defended you here.

This is all stuff I stand by having said.

However, the theme and the way the 'character' claims are going, mean he has to be on my side thematically unless Mharman truly bastard split the theme.
If you’re going by theme, I already told you what side my theory was on. If you were going by this, WF would be the most suspect, yet you’re sitting here tunneling me
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If everyone is suspect, why do you townread literally everyone except me lmao
I don't townread whiteflame much at all.

I thematically believe entirely that if either That2 or GP is scum, the partner is the other like I am at a level of 100% sure of that because of the antisemite scum theme being viable as well as the non-US conspiracy theory scum theme being viable.

However, if GP is scum, it doesn't mean his partner is That2 as the Islamic world theme is viable with Earth.

So thematically based on the only people other than me who claimed, I think if GP is scum, you are Town no matter what your claim is. Therefore, I will tell you that I think GP is Town at the moment. 

Since I firmly believe That2 can only be partnered to GP thematically (I didn't clock that at first) I will tell you that I townread That2 and that it's based off of that that I also kind townread GP even more.

I don't see why Scum would out so fast for this, I can see why Town would.

Earth being 9/11 is kind of whatever, that claim can fit many themes except a right-wing theme.

Behaviour-wise, Earth is towny to me this game for his meta. He tries less as mafia and is so passive and trolly.
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WF would be the most suspect, yet you’re sitting here tunneling me
Okay vote whiteflame, I'll vote, I am okay forcing him to out 100% so but if someone hammers it after another votes on him, I will tilt the fuck out.
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If you were balancing out a game with a vanillaizer that is townsided in it, you'd probably put a vanilla in the game to let them waste their power if they misfire. Idk, I would definitely do that.

So yeah bitcoin betting, sure. However, I am saying the psychology of scum not the mod is that they'd never ever both claim vanilla, at least not until much later on into the day phase realising the opportunity is there and only if they're sure they'll get townread.
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Thanks. It's really hard for me to explain my intuitions.
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I don't townread whiteflame much at all.
You literally said you did? Why the change?

I thematically believe entirely that if either That2 or GP is scum, the partner is the other like I am at a level of 100% sure of that because of the antisemite scum theme being viable as well as the non-US conspiracy theory scum theme being viable.

However, if GP is scum, it doesn't mean his partner is That2 as the Islamic world theme is viable with Earth.

So thematically based on the only people other than me who claimed, I think if GP is scum, you are Town no matter what your claim is. Therefore, I will tell you that I think GP is Town at the moment. 
Why can’t GP and I both be town?

Since I firmly believe That2 can only be partnered to GP thematically (I didn't clock that at first) I will tell you that I townread That2 and that it's based off of that that I also kind townread GP even more.
Okay so if me, GP, That2 are town, you’re left with Supa, WF, Earth.

I don't see why Scum would out so fast for this, I can see why Town would.

Earth being 9/11 is kind of whatever, that claim can fit many themes except a right-wing theme.

Behaviour-wise, Earth is towny to me this game for his meta. He tries less as mafia and is so passive and trolly.
So you have Supa and WF from my POV. From yours it’s me, Supa, WF.

Another instance of confirmation bias lol

Okay vote whiteflame, I'll vote, I am okay forcing him to out 100% so but if someone hammers it after another votes on him, I will tilt the fuck out.
You misunderstand my point. If you’re succumbing to the theory that right wing is a group, then I should be townread if Supa is townread, and you should  be going after WF. The fact you are not leads me to believe that you don’t believe that’s a viable theory. So either Supa isn’t town or your theory is wrong. Which is it? I have no interest in getting anymore roles/claims today.
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If you were balancing out a game with a vanillaizer that is townsided in it, you'd probably put a vanilla in the game to let them waste their power if they misfire. Idk, I would definitely do that.
I don’t use vanillas in my games. But a misfire to me would be hitting town because it’s a negative utility role. You’re also ignoring that a Mafia Goon is equivalent to Town Vanilla. That2 could be telling the truth that she’s Vanilla, but she’s withholding the fact that she’s a goon.

So yeah bitcoin betting, sure. However, I am saying the psychology of scum not the mod is that they'd never ever both claim vanilla, at least not until much later on into the day phase realising the opportunity is there and only if they're sure they'll get townread.
You can’t analyze the psychology of scum without knowing who scum are? A That2 + Earth team psychology is far different than a WF+Supa team psychology. You can generalize it all you want
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More input/activity would be appreciated from you all
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But if I hit town pr at least I can confirm myself
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I think you are town, just use your power wisely, cause you could possibly lose the game for town.
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Do you understand why I think RM is scum. His tunneling of you is distracting from the game and causing town to get disinterested.

VTL RM
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Once I flip Town and you feel upset and blame me like a baby, I hope that you reread this day phase and sheep my read. At least realise you were wrong to ruin me helping us analyse the theme.
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I can't really save town much anyway, the scum can still kill after being rendered goon and still can carry the scumteam nearly as well in terms of day phase behaviour.

I am not sure why the other 3 are stopping me analysing the theme, however if they are scum it's kind of smart, especially if one claimed and one is stalling.
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but if one is stalling and one claimed, it can't be that2, that2 fits you (GP) too well to be partnered with someone else thematically.
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Do you understand why I think RM is scum. His tunneling of you is distracting from the game and causing town to get disinterested.
I literally have been trying to have town engage with me and explore the theme.

I have no idea why you're blaming me for the rest of you being shit at keeping activity going and getting disinterested, that's hardly my responsibility. Get others interested yourself or stfu. LOL!
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I'll probably go out on a limp and say RM is town. He did say that if he hits a PR then it would confirm him. I can see a Town!RM going, "oh my role is confirmed so I'm town". Still kinda odd, but w/e.