Atheism and humanism are completely contradictory

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But here you are complaining you don't find a lot of people debating 1 + 1 = 2.

please be slightly more specific

you don't find a lot of people debating 1 + 1 = 2

But here you are complaining you don't find a lot of people debating 1 + 1 = 2.

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But here you are complaining you don't find a lot of people debating 1 + 1 = 2.

i'm simply mentioning it as an example

this does not even remotely qualify as "complaining"

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you have thoroughly and completely misread my intention

you have thoroughly and completely misread my intention

Here you go complaining again!!

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@Shila

you have thoroughly and completely misread my intention

making a statement of fact is not a complaint

So subjectivity and morality isn’t relevant to anything we’ve been discussing?

read the damn thread.

you suddenly switched and started focusing on appeal to emotion fallacies

Tarik: You can agree with something without it being your word.

K_Michael: If the Bible isn't the word of God, then what indication do you have that He agrees with it?

Tarik: I never said The Bible was or wasn’t the word of God, I simply made a general statement.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 - KJV

it was made in the context of our discussion of the Bible

or whatever informs your flavor of religion

or whatever informs your flavor of religion

How can you forget that caveat after you just quoted it?

Either the Bible (or whatever informs your flavor of religion) has clear instructions on how you should live your life and you don't get to decide for yourself, or the Bible isn't the word of God. 

my point stands.

You mean your question?

Either the Bible (or whatever informs your flavor of religion) has clear instructions on how you should live your life and you don't get to decide for yourself, or the Bible isn't the word of God. 

I’m not satisfied with just feelings alone, I want them validated and God does that.

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my point stands.

You mean your question? Well in that case I guess it’s because I agree with it and I’m not satisfied with just feelings alone, I want them validated and God does that.

No, looks like it's still a declarative statement.

This was not a general statement in that it was made in the context of our discussion of the Bible, and while it might be generally applicable to other subjects and contexts, it would be disingenuous to claim that it is inapplicable to the Bible being the word of God. It is clear from your previous interactions in this thread (quoting scripture for things like whether God punishes nonbelievers) that you take the Bible to be a credible document that can accurately inform your religious beliefs. And if you believe the Bible, then you must believe that the Bible is truthful when it states

You should visit the case for the historicalJesus for any validation.

Which isn’t a departure from subjectivity if you read the damn thread.

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Which isn’t a departure from subjectivity if you read the damn thread.

The only time it was discussed at all is when you asserted that the two were necessarily tied to which I ignored it because it's a nonsense assertion and not what we're talking about.

In case you forgot (which you clearly have) this conversation is about what objectivity and subjectivity are, which we had to get into because of the original conversation that morality does not make sense unless it is objective. Nothing about that topic has anything to do with appeal to emotion fallacies.

Nothing about that topic has anything to do with appeal to emotion fallacies.

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Nothing about that topic has anything to do with appeal to emotion fallacies.

Subjectivity is influenced by that.

morality does not make sense unless it is objective.

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morality does not make sense unless it is objective.

please explain

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the concept of moral-impulse defined as merely a reflection of personal-preference makes much more sense than trying to conceive of some unknowable "objective" moral-standard

Moses could claim the moral standard came from God and not conceived of some unknowable "objective" moral-standard.

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Moses could claim the moral standard came from God and not conceived of some unknowable "objective" moral-standard.

anyone can make that claim

but nobody can support that claim

Moses did!!

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Moses did!!

there are older books that make different claims

anyone can make that claim

but nobody can support that claim