NFL Mafia [DP2]

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@badger
This was a long-winded way of saying, "Sir, you're weird."
Thank you. 
You took a comment addressed to someone else as a compliment?

Still less weird than me.
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@SirAnonymous
Whiteflame has been my big FOS for a while now. I was building up to the courage for it. Speed/Wylted lynch just flowed out of GP's post to me. 
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To be honest, I don't think justifications matter much here. They've been all over the place.
I think they're worth considering. I'm not saying that a justification needs to make a lot of sense - it really doesn't, and I've been derailed by a strange claim that was real too many times in the past for me to make that mistake here - but I am saying that there are likely some through-lines that we should expect to be consistent between players. So, I'll put this more broadly:

Does anyone else have a justification that focuses on factors external to the team (e.g. fans)?

We should all be able to answer this. I'll say straight up: mine references a player on the team and its overall performance as justifications.
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@SirAnonymous
You took a comment addressed to someone else as a compliment?

Still less weird than me.

You decrypted his post for me. Funny little coincidence. 
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@badger
Oh, that's what that was about. I'm slow sometimes.
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My role is honorary. 
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@badger
Whiteflame has been my big FOS for a while now. I was building up to the courage for it. Speed/Wylted lynch just flowed out of GP's post to me. 
Don't really understand why you need courage to say it. You're not the first one to sus me, though I'd like to know where that FOS comes from. Sounds like now's not the time to ask, though.
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Late-night mafia chatter is the best.
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@whiteflame
I feel like you've been very slow to admit to things. The MC/GP link. The credibility of Earth's claim. The latter is more forgivable but FOS'ing Earth should always be to FOS me by proxy. 
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The latter is more forgivable but FOS'ing Earth should always be to FOS me by
How so?
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@badger
Can you explain the justification for your reads more, particularly WF
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The latter is more forgivable but FOS'ing Earth should always be to FOS me by
How so?
Was about to ask the same thing
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Because I gave him perfect set up for his claim. I gifted him a perfect doc claim, at least by what I consider the proper reading of it.
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I don't know how you lot see me say Earth is doc, then Earth claim doc, then he's FOS but nothing said about me. Basically. 
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@badger
That's a pretty weak link, in my opinion.
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I don't think you would be much more likely to do that if you were mafia teammates than if you were town. Maybe a little, but not a lot.
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@badger
I feel like you've been very slow to admit to things. The MC/GP link. The credibility of Earth's claim. The latter is more forgivable but FOS'ing Earth should always be to FOS me by proxy. 
I'm honestly trying to figure out what I'm missing. I sussed both MC and GP together when I gave my reads, though I'll admit I spent more time on MC's claim itself and his reads than on the balance of MC's and GP's roles after the former claimed.

I also challenged the credibility of Earth's claim very shortly after he made it. I don't know why I should instantly sus you if I'm sussing Earth, though you're welcome to explain why I should. I'm guessing this has to do with your breakdown of the doctor role, but let's face it: if scum was going to claim doctor, your setup wasn't going to make that more likely. At worst, you helped provide justifications that Earth hasn't given yet.
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@Speedrace
Can you explain the justification for your reads more, particularly WF

The problem with reading WF generally is that his every post is carefully considered. He doesn't just rattle shit off like the rest of us. The way I read townies is in the sum and coherence of their posts. It's off-the-cuff posts that add up to a coherent townie game-view. With WF it's harder to trust that it's not crafted. 

But then I would expect his careful considerations to come to the same conclusions as my disarray of posts. That's the FOS.
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@badger
But then I would expect his careful considerations to come to the same conclusions as my disarray of posts. 
In other words, you expect him to agree with you?
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I guess maybe I was way too certain of Earth's inevitable doc claim and that's just something you lot were not seeing. My posts were to insist on Earth being doc. 
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@SirAnonymous
Yes lol. 
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@badger
I guess maybe I was way too certain of Earth's inevitable doc claim and that's just something you lot were not seeing. 
You would be correct.
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I see literally no other way to read WF than to expect him to read the game the same as I do. He's either with me or against me, which might as well be town or mafia. 
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@badger
Yes lol. 
So you expect him to agree with you, in a mafia game, on a debate website? And you're suspicious of him because he doesn't? To quote Joe Biden, "Come on, man!"
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@badger
I'm not saying you're wrong about him, but I don't think that's a good basis on which to read someone.
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@badger
I don't know how you lot see me say Earth is doc, then Earth claim doc, then he's FOS but nothing said about me. Basically. 
Earth's ability to claim doc is completely independent of you (plus he can hint he's doc as scum...? it's unclear to me why you guessing his role means anything)

That said, I'm hard townreading this; scum has no reason to try to link themselves to someone who is on the chopping block
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@SirAnonymous
You would be correct.

Yes but what about now? I insist Earth is doc. It's one of the strongest reads I've had in my entire mafia career. 
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Pretty much takes out any credibility I might've previously had about badger's reads though lol
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@Speedrace
plus he can hint he's doc as scum...?
His doc tells which I outlined could not be taken for hints. They were slips if anything. An overconcern with his role leaking into his posts. I don't think Earth fakes that. 
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@badger
Yes but what about now?
Correct that I didn't expect Earth to claim doc.
I insist Earth is doc. It's one of the strongest reads I've had in my entire mafia career.
Ok. I don't know whether he is or isn't myself.