Russia and Ukraine

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Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow – if so, will he become my new best friend?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2013
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Kyiv,  Kyiv, Kyiv,  Kyiv, Kyiv,  Kyiv, Kyiv,  Kyiv, thx RM
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"Research has demonstrated considerable risks to children exposed to the homosexual lifestyle. Violence between same-sex partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples. Same-sex partnerships are significantly more prone to dissolution than heterosexual marriages, with the average homosexual relationship lasting only two to three years. Homosexual men and women are reported to be promiscuous, with several partners, even within what are loosely termed "committed relationships". Individuals who practise a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies and shortened life-spans".

This statement is supported by thirty-sex references to scientific studies. - "Homosexual parenting: Is it time for change?". American College of Pediatricians January 22, 2004

23% of young adults whose mothers had a same sex relationship had been touched sexually by a parent or adult care-giver, compared with 2% of those whose parents were continuously married (and mother/father). 31% of young adults whose mothers had had a same-sex relationship were 25% of those whose father had had a same sex relationships reported that they had ever been forced to have sex against their will, compared to 8% of those whose parents were continually married. (Illinios state legislature, hearing on SB 10", Ruth Institute, February 27th 2013)

Between 1987 and 1992 sexually active homosexuals lost up to 20 years of life expectancy (The Health Risks of Gay Sex, Dr John Diggs/An Epidemiological study from Vancouver) compared to an approximate 10 year drop in life expectancy for the heaviest smokers.
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They know what is going on where they are and if in fact they are being truthful about what they are reporting.  Again all you know is what you are told to think. And you just regurgitate that back as absolute fact.  If I recall we were discussing "why this is happening", You think its because Russia wants to rule and oppress,  I think its because of corrupt politicians money laundering and child sex trafficking. The fact shit is being blown up and people are being killed is irrelevant to the main point. I came to my conclusions using my own brain, efforts  and research not because ABC news says I should believe  what they report. The news media has 0 credibility, that's been proven countless times. They are just an extension of the govt used to spread political propaganda as far as I am concerned. You can believe what they say. That's your right, but it doesn't make you right because you quote them.
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When all you have is a hammer…
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When all you have is a hammer… it's a damn site better than a whole bag of broken hammers?
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3. Action speak louder than words. The dude literally bombed a Russian ally, sent Ukraine javelins that are becoming crucial on the war front, and sanctioned Russia several times. That’s not puppet behavior. Point blank. No amount of trying to be friendly leading up to a summit with a world leader will change that.
Trump is a Russian agent, but the Russians didn’t invade when Trump was President. Biden isn’t a Russian agent, so Putin invaded. #Logic
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Kyiv, Kyiv, Kyiv, Kyiv, thx.s RM
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You already replied that.
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Sad its about a lot of things but most come back to two basics, 1} ego and 2} energy.

His ego has great political positioning and a large land area that has large supply of energy and minerals that aid in flow of various kinds of energy for Russia and other countries.

India abstained from the quasi-condemnation vote as did China and Arab  Emirates.

There is niether unity against Putin or many who are ready to make major sacrifices to stop and send Russia's military back to Russia.

Gas just jumper 40 cents in my area, and it jumped 10 cents two weeks ago. I will not be surprised if if goes even higher.

1st world nations just got kicked in groin by  nuclear weapons owner Putin. 






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Well that's all very well and good, but such studies can only be taken at face value. And one can only assume that they are not biased studies.

If you interpret my consistent point of view correctly you will understand that I am not necessarily an advocate of either current liberal attitudes towards sexuality, or same sex parenting.

I'm just tolerant, and content with myself and my social niche....And I just don't worry about how others might achieve sexual satisfaction, or the possible implications of their sexual activities and associations.

In terms of responsibility and intentional abuse I would very much doubt the veracity of the information you provided....Well certainly from a British perspective. Perhaps the U.S's approach to the social care of minors, is lax by virtue of the complexity of the law and other influences.

As for smoking related problems....Well perhaps less people smoke these days.

But I can't see people giving up sex any time soon.

And unfortunately as ever Doc, and not doubting your integrity for a moment. You nonetheless are still prepared to put a great deal of faith in a church still marred by the sexual indiscretions of some of it's former leaders.

A church that clearly repressed sex to the point of perversion.

Perhaps it's better therefore that we're all open, honest and tolerant of sexual behaviour, which after all is an inherent gift of creation.


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3. Action speak louder than words. The dude literally bombed a Russian ally, sent Ukraine javelins that are becoming crucial on the war front, and sanctioned Russia several times. That’s not puppet behavior. Point blank. No amount of trying to be friendly leading up to a summit with a world leader will change that.
Trump is a Russian agent, but the Russians didn’t invade when Trump was President. Biden isn’t a Russian agent, so Putin invaded. #Logic
I wrote a whole post responding to those comments. Instead of only replying to those you agree with, feel free to attempt an actual productive conversation.
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“The Trump administration’s policy actions often seemed at odds with the President’s rhetoric. To set the record on policy actions, rather than rhetoric, Alina Polyakova and Filippos Letsas tracked the administration’s concrete actions on Russia from 2017 to 2019.”


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From an article by Bess Levin:

As for the idea that Trump was so tough on Russia that Putin feared him, and wouldn’t have dared to attack Ukraine if the 45th president had gotten a second term, well, please enjoy this exchange between former Trump administration official John Bolton and Newsmax on Tuesday morning:
Newsmax: There is something to be said though, about the simple fact that there was not aggression during the four years. I mean, you were part of that administration as well, and there was not aggression from Russia and they waited him out, it seems, and made a move. I mean, we have a list of things, the Brookings Institution says that the “Trump administration implemented 52 policy actions against Russia,” was pretty tough on Russia in a lot of ways. Forcing NATO members to pay up; as we know, sanctioning Nord Stream 2; oligarchs close to Putin were sanctioned; selling anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, so arming Ukraine; withdrawing from the INF treaty; and expelling Russian officers from this country as well. In 2018, he looked NATO members in the eye and talked about the reliance on Russian energy by Europe and how horrible that was. I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I’m surprised you don’t think that he would’ve handled this better than Joe Biden.

Bolton: No, he did not. He did not. We didn’t sanction Nord Stream 2…we should have, we should have brought the project to an end. We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales of S-400 antiaircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it saying we were being too hard. The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It is just not accurate to say that Trump’s behavior somehow deterred the Russians. I think the evidence is that Russia didn’t feel that their military was ready.

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Well, I never was a big admirer of Mr. Bolton… or his music!

Seriously though, I’ll entertain that interview if you’d supply the link. Here’s this:

“Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline”




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Oh, I thought the entire Bolton (blech!) interview would be featured. Alas, it’s just another “Here’s someone prominent saying things we like” sort of article…

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Do pobachennya
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It's baffling to me that people can look at Trump and see an imposing figure or character.
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I wrote a whole post responding to those comments. Instead of only replying to those you agree with, feel free to attempt an actual productive conversation.
Your entire post just said Trump was a Russian agent. If he was a Russian agent, it would make sense to invade under him, no? What part am I missing here
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No, no. All of that was sanctioned by Putin, Trump’s puppet master. It was all part of Putin’s plan to not invade under his puppet
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Oh, I thought the entire Bolton (blech!) interview would be featured. Alas, it’s just another “Here’s someone prominent saying things we like” sort of article…
John Bolton is irrelevant, his central point however is.

Listing things that happened during the Trump administration is not the same thing as listing things that happened because of Trump. In almost every case, the actions taken by the administration were taken over Trump’s (often public) disapproval.

The sanctions were passed with a veto proof majority and were not even imposed until he was pressured after it was revealed that he hadn’t yet moved on them. The military aid to Ukraine was passed by congress and withheld by Trump until he could get dirt on Biden, which he had to abandon after it was about to go public. Time after time Trump was the obstacle to the US being tough on Russia, not the reason.

And then there are all of the other examples of Trump inexplicably taking Putin’s side on issues no US President would have ever taken; allowing Russia back into the G8, working with Russia to “investigate” interference in the 2016 election, pulling the US out of NATO, blaming the former US President for Russia’s decision to invade and annex Crimea, etc.

To claim Trump was tough on Russia is just not serious.
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John Bolton claims the evidence points to Russia not thinking their military was ready to invade yet.
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John Bolton claims the evidence points to Russia not thinking their military was ready to invade yet.
Yup, 4 years wasn’t enough time
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There’s a saying:  “Trump supporters take Trump seriously but not literally. Trump detractors take Trump literally but not seriously.”

Which US politician do you uphold as having been tough on Russia, then?
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Which US politician do you uphold as having been tough on Russia, then?
Biden ofc. Even though he’s buying 600,000 barrels of oil a day from Russia. Looks like gas prices do matter
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Biden has Alzheimer's. Trump is a giant baby. The whole world spent that 4 years laughing at you guys. Every world president made a game of Trump's silly handshake games. 90% of anything Trump ever said was some petty wank-off game. He won a bitching contest with an old lady.

Now he's the wartime president the world needed. 
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Now he's the wartime president the world needed. 

The only war Biden will be involved in if inflation goes double digit is a civil war.