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@badger
Them mean tweets tho. Grow some balls lol
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@ILikePie5
I got no clue what this post is even supposed to mean.
All the identity politics and nonsense got to you guys. It's not just the left. American right has lost sight of what a man is too.
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@badger
All the identity politics and nonsense got to you guys. It's not just the left. American right has lost sight of what a man is too.
We needed a leader, which is different from just a man lol
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@ebuc
Your opinion is noted
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@ILikePie5
Your entire post just said Trump was a Russian agent. If he was a Russian agent, it would make sense to invade under him, no? What part am I missing here
The part where I wrote actual words.
I never said nor implied that he was a Russian agent, you made that up entirely.
Your argument is nothing more than an argument from ignorance used as an excuse to ignore the facts I just laid out. The question of why Putin decided to invade is an unknown. “I don’t know why Putin made this choice” does not equal “Putin invaded because Trump is gone”.
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@cristo71
There’s a saying: “Trump supporters take Trump seriously but not literally. Trump detractors take Trump literally but not seriously.”Which US politician do you uphold as having been tough on Russia, then?
Pretty much every one except Trump, and many of this class of MAGA cult members.
That question is of course a red herring. I’m not running around claiming other presidents and politicians were tough on Russia, I’m responding to those who claim Trump was, or more absurdly, that Trump is what stopped Putin from invading Ukraine as if Putin was afraid of the guy who bent over backwards for 4 years to get on his good graces.
Which US politician do you uphold as having been tough on Russia, then?
Pretty much every one except Trump
So Obama allowing Russia to take Crimea was "tough on Russia"
And Russia invading Georgia under "Bush" is also "tough on Russia"
Mkay...
And, I guess recently, "tough on Russia" today looks like a complete capitulation of Ukraine...
Doublethink working overtime here.
I’m responding to those who claim Trump was,
Whose fault is it that Trump can claim Russia took no territory under his watch? Who do you blame for that fact? Do you blame Putin for not taking territory under Trump?
It appears to me that the people who hate Trump the most seemed to secretly want Putin to prosper if it meant Trump could be removed.
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@Double_R
No, it is not a red herring, as the topic is “Russia and Ukraine,” not, as you seem to believe, “Russia and Trump.”
I was actually looking for context on what you consider good US foreign policy regarding Russia so as to have some point of reference. If you had offered the name of a politician you don’t otherwise support, at least that would mean you have the honesty to admit what he was good at. If you offered the name of a politician few others would support, again, at least that would mean you have the gumption to put it out there for examination. Or someone whom historians laud for his foreign policy. You posited none of these. If you cannot offer up a particular foreign policy doctrine on Russia which was arguably superior to Trump’s, then that is telling.
Put some skin in the game instead of merely indulging your TDS.
I was actually looking for context on what you consider good US foreign policy regarding Russia so as to have some point of reference. If you had offered the name of a politician you don’t otherwise support, at least that would mean you have the honesty to admit what he was good at. If you offered the name of a politician few others would support, again, at least that would mean you have the gumption to put it out there for examination. Or someone whom historians laud for his foreign policy. You posited none of these. If you cannot offer up a particular foreign policy doctrine on Russia which was arguably superior to Trump’s, then that is telling.
Put some skin in the game instead of merely indulging your TDS.
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@sadolite
Copy that. Putin will get all his has strategically planned to get from Ukraine.
Then Putin gets Trump or any racist bigot like him in presidency again to play the part of loving freedom and keeping nuclear weapons out of every country except Russia.
So how does Putin get all of the nations with nuclear weapons ---except Russia's--- to deactivate them permanently? If he does accomplish that, we will have an Earth with less chance of Mutually Assured Destruction { M.A.D. }. To do so may mean humanity may have to go N.U.Ts somewhat more first. I dunno.
As of 2022 it is......" 100 seconds to doomsday Clock"... time.
... "Editor’s note: Founded in 1945 by Albert Einstein and University of
Chicago scientists who helped develop the first atomic weapons in the
Manhattan Project, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists created
the Doomsday Clock two years later, using the imagery of apocalypse
(midnight) and the contemporary idiom of nuclear explosion (countdown to
zero) to convey threats to humanity and the planet. "...
..." At our current consumption rate of about 20 million barrels a day, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve would last only 36 days if we were faced with a situation where the oil had to be released all
at once (however, only 4.4 million barrels a day can be withdrawn,
extending our supply to 165 days). "....
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@Double_R
The part where I wrote actual words.I never said nor implied that he was a Russian agent, you made that up entirely.Your argument is nothing more than an argument from ignorance used as an excuse to ignore the facts I just laid out. The question of why Putin decided to invade is an unknown. “I don’t know why Putin made this choice” does not equal “Putin invaded because Trump is gone”.
Glad we agree that Russian collusion was a hoax and Putin has nothing on Trump lol
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@zedvictor4
Perhaps it's better therefore that we're all open, honest and tolerant of sexual behaviour, which after all is an inherent gift of creation.
very clearly no from the data, homosexuality is inherently perverted.
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@Dr.Franklin
All sex is perverted dude. Homosexuals just have a head start on the rest of us because they already know each other's minds.
It's really none of your business. My brother is gay. He's not going to be happy with a woman. So the fuck what if he's with a dude? If it gives you panic attacks, bad luck. Seek help.
The shit women want to do these days. All it takes is a man like me who's not so careful.
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@ebuc
There's 4 levels to the nuclear readiness. Putin is on level 2, I wouldn't be super super worried
70% of women have rape fantasies. Probably 99% is some sort of disturbed.
You are never going to satisfy a woman being such a prude, Dr.Franklin. Time to put down the DebateArt philosophies.
Either that or Elliot Rodgers.
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@badger
One of the top types of fantasies women have are vampires and werewolves....
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@badger
All sex is perverted dude.
Nope.
Homosexuals just have a head start on the rest of us because they already know each other's minds.
No they do not. In fact, gays are very promiscous and don't even know each other
It's really none of your business. My brother is gay. He's not going to be happy with a woman. So the fuck what if he's with a dude? If it gives you panic attacks, bad luck. Seek help.
It is because the well-being of the society and people affect me. I hope your brother can be cured
Nope
How the fuck would you know?
No they do not. In fact, gays are very promiscous and don't even know each other
Yes they do. They share a sex. The reason heterosexual couples aren't rising to the level of debauchery seen with homosexual couples is because there's uncertainty there about the other because of difference of sex.
But heterosexual couples learn, dude.
It is because the well-being of the society and people affect me. I hope your brother can be cured
My brother is a very happy young man. He's not on DebateArt in lieu of therapy crying about the world.
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@Greyparrot
Well you know what to do, Mr Parrot.
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@Dr.Franklin
Have you not yet thought that this forum looks a little like group therapy? All these outcasts and weirdos with their weird-ass ideas.
Maybe you can get over yours and rejoin the world.
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@badger
10 years ago my views were the normal
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@Dr.Franklin
I'd say the internet outed us all. We were always all sex-mad.
But even if we weren't... so? This isn't 10 years ago.
Everyone who's like "stand with Ukraine" out of nowhere, where were you guys when the US was destabilizing and bombing countless middle eastern and African countries into the stone age?
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@triangle.128k
What exactly do you mean by this question? Which war specifically are you askng about?
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@Dr.Franklin
Very clearly no from the data.
For sure.
Doc's data.
One of 7.9 billion separately contained bundles of varying data.
And like all good Catholics you ignore the controversies of the Church, and pretend that years and years of child abuse never happened.
Perhaps Catholicism is inherently perverted too.
Perhaps the human species is inherently perverted.
Though from that we can extend to the conclusion, that inherent perversion must be inherent normality.
And therefore I reiterate that best course of action, is the Catholic approach....Ignore and be content with yourself.
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@triangle.128k
Everyone who's like "stand with Ukraine" out of nowhere, where were you guys when the US was destabilizing and bombing countless middle eastern and African countries into the stone age?
They are busy buying 4 dollar a gallon Russian Oil so they can hop in their car and dump out Russian vodka.
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@cristo71
No, it is not a red herring, as the topic is “Russia and Ukraine,” not, as you seem to believe, “Russia and Trump.”I was actually looking for context on what you consider good US foreign policy regarding Russia so as to have some point of reference.
The topic is whatever the individuals already engaged in conversation are talking about, and if you actually read the conversations you decided to chime in on you would know that I did not jump into a conversation about Ukraine and Russia to talk about Trump. I jumped in to respond to people arguing that Putin invaded Ukraine because Biden is weak, or because strongman Trump wasn’t there to stop him. That’s a remarkably stupid claim which deserves a response and this is a debate site so I did. Threads often stray from the topic, I don’t see you jumping into every other conversation on this site to act as if that’s “telling”.
Your question is in fact a red herring. No rational person needs to know what I consider to be tough on Russia in order to recognize that a US President standing on the world stage and taking Russia’s word over that of US intelligence is definitely not it.
Instead you want me to offer up a name of another politician so you can nit pick their record and find something about them to attack, then pretend that the thing you found to attack is the thing I support in order to take the conversation away from the blatantly obvious issues with Trump’s handling of Russia.
If US intelligence unanimously concluded that Russia attacked the RNC and Biden’s brilliant idea was to partner with Russia to let them investigate the attack, you wouldn’t need me to explain to you what’s wrong with that.
If Russia had annexed Crimea while Trump was in office and Biden’s response was to blame Trump (not Putin) for letting it happen while opposing any action against Russia to hold them accountable for it, you would not need me to tell you what’s wrong with that.
If Biden’s campaign was giving their internal polling data to the Russians while Russia was attacking the RNC, taking meetings with lawyers representing themselves as acting “on behalf of Russia and its government’s support for Biden”, and had numerous undisclosed contacts with Russians while all this was happening you would not need me to tell you what is wrong with that.
Some on this site have said I have an obsession with Trump. No, my obsession is with the phenomenon where otherwise intelligent people suddenly lose all sense of reality to pretend that this man and everything he has brought to the table is not batshit crazy. To pretend that if it were anyone else, you would not be just as up in arms as the rest of us.
TDS is definitely a real thing, it just doesn’t mean what you think it does.