The Resistance - Mission Two

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@ILikePie5
You need to convince Oromagi to res-read you. Supa is inclined to vote no to this based on what he said before.

As for your logic, I don't know if in your shoes I'd be more sure about RM than Oro. I'd be suspicious of RM in your shoes a little bit at least but I do agree that Earth has been so blatantly scummy there's little reason to doubt it.
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That is the single least likeliest spy team at this point considering where and when Earth hammered 'no' as well as how Oromagi has behaved to this team suggestion.

Why do you not agree?
We’ll figure it out tomorrow. The course of action is pretty simple after this. One of WF, Oro, and Supa is scum. WF thinks it’s Oro, you think it’s Supa or WF. Either way we can figure it out tomorrow
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@ILikePie5
We can't, Oro has voted no and we are forced to need to take a leap of faith now because 5 no's is instant spy-win anyway.
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We can't, Oro has voted no and we are forced to need to take a leap of faith now because 5 no's is instant spy-win anyway.

Supa hasn’t voted yet.
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@ILikePie5
He will vote no, look what he said before.
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He will vote no, look what he said before.
He’s being a moron. What he said doesn’t even make sense. He’s just saying it to show he’s “active.”
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@Vader
Why do you dislike this Mission Selection
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@oromagi
Wanting to be on the mission is such a shitty reason to spy read someone. We were all saying first choices don’t matter, but Earth says “why” to Pie+RM team. He’s not ok with that for god knows what reason, but is more than happy to do himself and RM. What does this mean? He wanted to be on the mission himself. If at anything it’s an equal read.

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Also you have yet to say why your future is better than my future?
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I’m inclined to believe you’re town and last scum is Supa, just cut the objectivity bs. Because objectively Earth’s words implicate him. There’s no other scenario where he’s town
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@ILikePie5
If this ends up as a no-vote, I actually would advocate for trusting whiteflame over Supa tbh.

While I stand by everything I said, I feel like whatever Whiteflame offers as a team is just literally gonna be more useful than what Supa's going to come up with, which likely will include Earth on the team even if Supa is resistance as he hardcore scumreads me.
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@ILikePie5
by trusting I mean voting yes to the team whiteflame suggests.
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Problem is if Oro is a towny he’s hard throwing the game. Literally. He’s a stubborn bastard based on a mafia game I had with him. A 5 year old could see who scum was but he couldn’t.
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@whiteflame
If this ends up as a 'no', put a team with you and pie both in it and I'll vote yes whoever you put third (unless it's Earth).
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That is the single least likeliest spy team at this point considering where and when Earth hammered 'no' as well as how Oromagi has behaved to this team suggestion.

Why do you not agree?
Consider it a gut response to what happened. It all smacked of Oro trying to put distance between himself and Earth. Not that Supa's been doing a great job this game, he's just harder to read based on what I've seen so far.

If this ends up as a 'no', put a team with you and pie both in it and I'll vote yes whoever you put third (unless it's Earth).
I'll guarantee that.
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@whiteflame
I think if the third person is me, that Oro and Supa, whichever is resistance, will vote no and the other of course will vote no as well especially if they're a spy (which I presume is Supa for multiple reasons if you aren't the spy)

So, the only team that ends up optimal is Oromagi, Pie and yourself as was originally suggested by Pie.

This is unfortunate because I really want me, Oromagi and Pie but at this point I actually am more sure (more than 75% AKA 3/4 sure) that Supa's chosen team is going to be worse for us or equally bad (at best) to yours.

I don't think Supa is going to exclude you from the team, I think he reads you as resistance purely based on what he hasn't said. So, it won't help me much at all.

I think you should make the team same as what Pie offered.
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Oro and Supa, whichever is resistance,
This doesn't rule out both being resistance, just means if only one is.
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I think it's bad meta to see yourself as an option and instantly pick yes when the spy team is up 1-0
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@Vader
He didn't do it just because he's on the team. That said, at this very point in time I am either appealing to a spy (you) who is voting no anyway or somehow I have a spy on my team or a spy (WF) voting yes.

So, I'm not gonna appeal. Vote as you please.
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I still need to think. I'm not a huge fan of Pie and am unconfident in oro but I do think you are likely resistance unless you big brained this. 
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@Vader
You are hesitant to vote yes because of Pie?

Why is that and when did you change your mind about me?

What's your read on WF?
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I still need to think. I'm not a huge fan of Pie
You have yet to answer why…

and am unconfident in oro but I do think you are likely resistance unless you big brained this. 
Earth, Pie, Oro cannot all be spies.
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Mission: Jailbreak
Mission Leader: RationalMadman
Mission team: ILikePie5, oromagi, and RationalMadman

Yes votes: ILikePie5 and whiteflame (2/3)
No votes: Oromagi (1/3)
Not voting: Earth and SupaDudz

Next in line for mission leader if current proposal is rejected: SupaDudz

There are 14.5 hours left before this vote defaults to 'no'.
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Vote bitch
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No

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(NEXSTAR) – Christmas is near, and in Japan that means that many families will be heading out together to pick up their feast for the celebration … from KFC.

The popular American fast food restaurant has been embedded in Japanese Christmas culture dating back to the 1970s, according to KFC Japan, which sees its highest sales of the year during the holiday. Christmas Eve has traditionally been KFC’s busiest single day of the year – with roughly 10 times more customers than normal.

Google reports that every December there is even a spike in KFC-related searches in the country.

While the Japanese population is only about 1% Christian, the holiday is a big – if slightly different – deal than it is in the states.

Christmas markets, decorative lights, trees and Santa-themed displays can all be found in Japan in late December, but the country has also developed its own traditions – along with Kentucky Fried Chicken, strawberry cake and romantic dinner dates often mark Christmas, according to TimeOut Japan.

So where did the fondness for crispy fried chicken at Christmas time come from?

The origin story has different versions. Some say that Takeshi Okawara, who managed the first KFC in Japan, untruthfully marketed the chicken as a traditional American Christmas dish, according to CNN. Okawara would go on to become CEO of KFC Japan.

Another theory is that a delivery person in a Santa Claus outfit made such an impression on a class of kindergartners that other schools started placing their own orders, inspiring the company to market its product for Christmas.

According to KFC Japan, it all dates back to 1974 after a KFC Japan sales team member overheard a foreign customer complain about not being able to get turkey and making do with fried chicken for Christmas.

From that overheard remark was born the first “Kentucky for Christmas” campaign, the story goes, and the tradition lives on to this day. The original holiday meal came with a bottle of wine and was marketed to adults hosting Christmas parties.

The special holiday meal – which can be reserved as early as October – continues to evolve, including items like a “premium chicken that’s hand prepared and stuffed with cheese and mushrooms, baked fresh in the restaurant.”



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@Vader
Why are you voting no? Stop being fuckin lazy and explain your reads.
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@Earth
you are the tiebreaker
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@oromagi
You me WF next 3 if he votes no, which he will
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@whiteflame
Do the team as Oromagi, Pie and you please.