Bakugan Battle Brawlers Mafia DP1

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@Wylted
I still think we should lynch GP for the self vote
Do you honestly think he is scum? Policy lynching never works here, it didn't work with evil last game when pie pushed for his policy lynch all day phase 1 either. 
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wylted is kinda leaning scum for me because last game he tried lynching me for stupid reasons now hes going after gp
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for stupid reasons
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@Evilgenius
Catching up real quick, been busy at work.
Did you catch up? Thoughts on supa / poly?
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@drlebronski
wylted is kinda leaning scum for me because last game he tried lynching me for stupid reasons now hes going after gp
You are a living and breathing example of "OMGUS" in absolutely every gaem you have played. 
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Let's lynch supa guys. Phase is expiring soon. 
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@Lunatic
Let's lynch supa guys. Phase is expiring soon.

I’ve been considering it. Wylted is generally more prone to this kind of behavior, but it’s unusual for Supa to get on a policy lynch train, and his reasoning this game has been odd in general. It is pretty different from the last couple of games where he’s been scum, though, and largely taken a backseat early on. I’d at least be willing to push for a claim.

VTL Supa
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Meant to put that in a quote box and it turned up bold… this is why I usually don’t post from my phone.
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vtl supa
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Unvote VTL supa
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@Greyparrot
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Supa has been rubbing me the wrong way. Let's just close the deal.
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@Vader
Supa, if you have a claim that you think will save you, now is the time to claim it or never. We running out of time. 
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@Lunatic
We still have a little over 6 hours, and I'd personally prefer to get his claim and assess it before someone hammers.

Unvote

I'll guarantee my vote for now, assuming that his claim doesn't change anything substantially, and VTL at least a couple of hours before the deadline.
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@Lunatic
So far that puts both supa and poly on my radar since poly also mentioned suspecting GP.
All I said in regards to GP is ... As far as grayparrots actions, can’t really say he is town confirmed. We don’t know what information was given in the PM’s or if Whiteflame really asked or not. (Post 47) 

Wasn’t really sussing him her, just stating that we can’t complete disregard him and say he’s town. I was implying that I’m mainly null in terms of GP. 


Then after Oromagi pointed out that GP didn’t post his Wincon, I placed GP as town lead, noticing that I also didn’t have a wincon tied to my role. 

So I don’t see where you are getting that I am sussing him.
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@whiteflame
We still have a little over 6 hours, and I'd personally prefer to get his claim and assess it before someone hammers.

Unvote

I'll guarantee my vote for now, assuming that his claim doesn't change anything substantially, and VTL at least a couple of hours before the deadline.

I am fine with people wanting to wait for a supa claim, as long as they can get on to prevent a no lynch before expiry, sounds like you will be around
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@Polyglot
All I said in regards to GP is ... As far as grayparrots actions, can’t really say he is town confirmed. We don’t know what information was given in the PM’s or if Whiteflame really asked or not. (Post 47) 

Wasn’t really sussing him her, just stating that we can’t complete disregard him and say he’s town. I was implying that I’m mainly null in terms of GP. 


Then after Oromagi pointed out that GP didn’t post his Wincon, I placed GP as town lead, noticing that I also didn’t have a wincon tied to my role. 

So I don’t see where you are getting that I am sussing him.

Well that's why I am voting supa instead of you. Supa went as far as to actually vote the guy. I am just suspicious of you postering around GP not being town confirmed. I am with whiteflame that wylted kind of gets a pass here because it's something I'd expect of him. No offense to wylted or anything. 
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Vote Count:

Supa (3/5) - Wylted, Luna, Bron
Grey (2/5) - Supa, Grey
Poly (1/5) - Oro

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@Wylted
also whiteflame is practically confirmed town. I am going to consider GP confirmed town and myself from my angle.

So... whiteflame thinks I am BELOVED PRINCESS as decides to start a conversation about it.  Isn't that the scummiest move we've seen this game?  Why would any TOWN member want to expose a BELOVED PRINCESS?

Why do you consider whiteflame confirmed town?
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I see 4 votes on Supa without a single reason given.  Rubs me the wrong way is not a reason.  How many scum are in this game anyway?
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@Polyglot
Then after Oromagi pointed out that GP didn’t post his Wincon, I placed GP as town lead, noticing that I also didn’t have a wincon tied to my role. 

I thought you said you did have a wincon, but it came in a separate, later, DM.
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@oromagi
I see 4 votes on Supa without a single reason given.  Rubs me the wrong way is not a reason.  How many scum are in this game anyway?
I would sympathize with you about this more if it was earlier in the phase, but we are near to the end, so I am not really looking for detailed reasons, just would rather not see the day phase end in a no lynch. Supa should have plenty of time to get on and respond to the pressure. 
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@oromagi
So... whiteflame thinks I am BELOVED PRINCESS as decides to start a conversation about it.  Isn't that the scummiest move we've seen this game?  Why would any TOWN member want to expose a BELOVED PRINCESS?
You didn't seem suspicious in post 81 whne you responded to him about it. 
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@Lunatic
whiteflame tried to out the BELOVED PRINCESS.... what did Supa do to earn your vote?

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@Lunatic
You didn't seem suspicious in post 81 whne you responded to him about it. 

I wanted to see how you reacted.
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@oromagi
whiteflame tried to out the BELOVED PRINCESS.... what did Supa do to earn your vote?
Supa voted to lynch GP very oppertunisticly, GP who both you and I seem to agree is more likely town for posting his role PM.

I have no clue what leads whiteflame to believe you are Beloved Princess, but you didn't seem all that suspicious of it before. What changed? 

Also I guessed your character in pokemon mafia as town too. I mean if he was right would you have admitted to it? Would that be then his fault or yours? Also guessing at a beloved princess while not neccesarily helpful to town, isn't as scummy as guessing at an investigative or protective role or something like that
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VTL SUPA
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whiteflame tried to out the BELOVED PRINCESS.... what did Supa do to earn your vote?
Supa voted to lynch GP very oppertunisticly, GP who both you and I seem to agree is more likely town for posting his role PM.
I won't say GP is more likely TOWN for posting his PM, just that I believe it is a cut & paste from PIe.  ASCETIC is only useful as a SCUM role.

I have no clue what leads whiteflame to believe you are Beloved Princess, but you didn't seem all that suspicious of it before. What changed? 
Nothing.  I don't always convey all of my emotions and thoughts in each note I post which means other players sometimes have difficulty gauging when I am suspicious.  I am mostly suspicious of everybody DP1.

Also I guessed your character in pokemon mafia as town too.
You guessed I was Misty because linked to Sarah Vaughan singing "Misty."  Good guess.


I mean if he was right would you have admitted to it?
No.  I would have said he was close but wrong.

Would that be then his fault or yours?
All whiteflame's.  If you are town and you suspect somebody is a COP because they keep posting "50" should you ask him if he's a COP or should you use that info to WATCH and DOC him?

Also guessing at a beloved princess while not neccesarily helpful to town, isn't as scummy as guessing at an investigative or protective role or something like that
Disagree.  GIving SCUM an extra (and blind) kill  in a 9-man game is way more OP than an uninformed COP or DOC.
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@oromagi
I won't say GP is more likely TOWN for posting his PM, just that I believe it is a cut & paste from PIe.  ASCETIC is only useful as a SCUM role.
The only way this doesn't make him "more likely town" is if you believe that pie gave them a full role and pm with a description, and the other mafia not only signed off on him using it like that in the first few minutes of the game going up, but didn't even try defending him and was just okay to let him roll with it. 

Nothing.  I don't always convey all of my emotions and thoughts in each note I post which means other players sometimes have difficulty gauging when I am suspicious.  I am mostly suspicious of everybody DP1.
Fair enough, just thought it was wierd that you seem to want him lynched over supa but didn't mention anything about it when you were already aware of it until supa was being lynched. Guess it kind of looks like a diversion but I am not going to over analyze it for now.

You guessed I was Misty because linked to Sarah Vaughan singing "Misty."  Good guess.
Your soft claimed mentioned her twice I believe and Misty is kind of an uncommon name, and when I think of Misty I think of pokemon first based on childhood memories of pokemon.

No.  I would have said he was close but wrong.
Not really any harm then.

All whiteflame's.  If you are town and you suspect somebody is a COP because they keep posting "50" should you ask him if he's a COP or should you use that info to WATCH and DOC him?
I mean I was trying to hint to you strongly in the pokemon game that my role PM indicated that pie was town, and you kept asking me "how and why" and when I finally revealed I was cop you acted shocked about why I revealed... I don't think townie logic is thinking about how they look when they are asking these questions is my point. You weren't thinking "Lunatic will suspect me if I ask him to reveal" you were probably suspicious of me if you were asking those things. I can't speak to whiteflame's motivations, but I do think asking someone if they are a beloved princess isn't the same as your above example about asking them with a cop. I guess it's kind of null. We should probably hear whiteflame's answer here, I am not going to defend him, all this is just to explain why I don't read it as scummier than supa pushing a lynch on someone who I think should be clearly town, for rather sub par reasoning. 
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@oromagi
IF you think you have a lead with whiteflame, you should pressure him and try to pursue it. You will probably get better answers from the man himself than me. If his answers seem scummier than supas lynch on GP and we have the time we can switch the lynch trains, I just don't think I have seen enough from him to convince me he is scum, and I agreed with some oof his logic from earlier in the day phase in regard to his argument with supa.
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I won't say GP is more likely TOWN for posting his PM, just that I believe it is a cut & paste from PIe.  ASCETIC is only useful as a SCUM role.
The only way this doesn't make him "more likely town" is if you believe that pie gave them a full role and pm with a description,
which he has done in the past, right?

and the other mafia not only signed off on him using it like that in the first few minutes of the game going up, but didn't even try defending him and was just okay to let him roll with it. 
  • I don't believe that GP checks in with teammates before acting.  GP has never demonstrated much capacity for team player.
  • GP always full claims first post of the game, no SCUM team is going to prevent that and they'd be suicidal to try to defend him
  • Whether the SCUM team was OK with it is not knowable to me.
  • Nothing.  I don't always convey all of my emotions and thoughts in each note I post which means other players sometimes have difficulty gauging when I am suspicious.  I am mostly suspicious of everybody DP1.
Fair enough, just thought it was wierd that you seem to want him lynched over supa

Naw, I just said, "that's rather sus, let's see who else thinks so," and went to bed.  I definitely think Whiteflame is more sus than Supa.  


No.  I would have said he was close but wrong.
Not really any harm then.

All whiteflame's.  If you are town and you suspect somebody is a COP because they keep posting "50" should you ask him if he's a COP or should you use that info to WATCH and DOC him?
I mean I was trying to hint to you strongly in the pokemon game that my role PM indicated that pie was town, and you kept asking me "how and why" and when I finally revealed I was cop you acted shocked about why I revealed...
I'm still shocked- you are supposed to play tougher than that.