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Yeah I'm going through the DDO archives and Ctrl+F-ing "Supa"

Very inefficient process which I am too lazy to continue.
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@Vaarka
If you're trying to sus me for saying "I said on the other hand twice" then wtf are you grabbing at

Ur being hyper-literal again, what about what I've said would lead you to conclude im sus'ing you because you said "on the other hand" twice? Because i specifically quoted that? 

I literally in the first sentence of that post after that quote said, "And you act as if that matters?" 

You are arguing about what you said in the post, I'm sus'ing you over what your posts clearly imply. The two are not one in the same, you know this.
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@warren42
You aren't going to amend your read on Wylted despite it being hingent on him not trying to act as if the post was legitimate, when he clearly did?
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Who TF is DPR? 
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@Buddamoose
No. His intent on it being seen as legitimate isn’t the same as it being legitimate. My scumread rested on the later premise.
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Wait I’m dumb
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'atta boy Tex 👏👏

You seeing what i mean about his application of a TR reaction being selective?  

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@Buddamoose
Ok ok

No, Supa claimed he thought Aporias vote was to Lynch. As to why he VTL'd aporia, and thus he wanted to see his reasoning. 

This requires we assume Supa both hasn't picked up on RVS votes not being for lynch, AND thought the first post of a game was for a lynch

this vote for a lynch as opposed to a claim as Supa is saying he did not realize, was, again as Supa stated himself, because he thought I had claimed previous to Aporias vote. Aporias vote was the first of the game...
This was because I misread

His excuse of "I said "where is buddas claim" because I thought he had claimed, wherein he actually links Aporias vote, FROM THE FIRST POST OF THE GAME" and says, "oh I misunderstood "vtl budda for claim" as meaning budda had claimed something, so Aporia was voting him for death. 
Ok I did not say misunderstood, I said misread, first off. Second off, I have a tendency of fucking up shit like that if you pay attention to my other DDO Mafias. Idk how I can defend myself against your claim by saying I misread. If you misread my argument, I can insantly read you as scum, but I don't.
On the first post of the game, a post he c/p'd from and responded to twice. To hold Supa as being truthful requires we hold he still doesn't understand the nature of RVS votes(when it has come up in games hes played in, and he specifically has been corrected on this assumption of RVS votes = to lynch. But also that he legitimately thought I had claimed previous to the first post of the game. The first is a stretch, the second is just unbelievable. 
RVS=Reason Voting Situation. I asked for this
I'm not sure how your bs detector hasn't been set off by this. Are you really that gullible to believe someone legitimately thought a VTL on the first player post of a game was both to lynch, and for something i had claimed? 

Are you the lie detector of DDO? I misread something ok? Big shit. Mafia should not be based off of that
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@Vader
RVS=Reason Voting Situation. I asked for this

*Sigh* 

No it literally means Random Voting Stage. "Reason Voting Situation? Like really? LMAO, didn't know what to do with the S in there so you just threw something in that doesn't really make sense didn't ya? 😂

 https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Random_Vote


Ok I did not say misunderstood, I said misread

*Sigh* if you misread it that would be syllagous to misunserstanding it. Unless one somehow is expected to come to a correct understanding, when misreading something? 

Idk how I can defend myself against your claim by saying I misread

Your the one claiming you misread it. I do not believe that you legitimately thought a vote on the first post of the game, could magically have had a claim that preceded it. 

I fully get you miss alot of things dudz, in bloodline I was TR'ing you in part because i got that almost right away into the first game playing with you. This is asking for me to accept that you missed way too much.

There isnt much of a way you can defend it. Cause you already have and i don't buy it for previously outlined reasons.
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Random Voting Stage
*sigh* *deep breathe*
oh

*Sigh* if you misread it that would be syllagous to misunserstanding it. Unless one somehow is expected to come to a correct understanding, when misreading something? 
No, misreading it is you read the words differently what they said in the text. Misunderstanding is where you read the words correctly but interpret them the wrong way
Your the one claiming you misread it. I do not believe that you legitimately thought a vote on the first post of the game, could magically have had a claim that preceded it. 
I am not sure what I was thinking. My mind wasn't working. Idk what I was thinking. Maybe I thought it was the second point. I goofed up there, and I apologize. But it is a misread.
I fully get you miss alot of things dudz, in bloodline I was TR'ing you in part because i got that almost right away into the first game playing with you. This is asking for me to accept that you missed way too much. 
I guess you may have too
There isnt much of a way you can defend it. Cause you already have and i don't buy it for previously outlined reasons.

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you mention your other games but in the game you modded, when EthanG was in an uproar over thinking beginning game votes were to lynch:,


He's pressuring you to claim the state you were given by dudz, not to lynch you hombre. This is about the same mistake all first timers make, so no worries 👍

you want me to believe you missed this, you missed that there couldn't possibly be a claim preceding the first post of the game, missed that Aporia was asking for a claim, and have missed that early game votes just really aren't ever for lynches in both bloodline and your game, and went, "yup, there can be a claim prior to the first post of a game, and it makes sense the first vote on the first post of the game is for death." 

Too much man, just not willing to do that 😂.
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I say we get a CC from Vaarka then lynch Supa. 
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@Vaarka
Whats yer character

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@Vader
No, misreading it is you read the words differently what they said in the text.
Then by consequence you have misunderstood what was said... not sure where the failure to connect here is. 

Are you positing that reading words differently than what is actually said in text, will result in understanding them correctly? 

Misunderstand- to fail to understand or interpret rightly the words or behavior of. 


Misread- to read wrongly; to misunderstand or misinterpret.



Misunderstand is quite literally in the definition of misread". How do you get, "these words mean two different things" from that? 

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On a side note, you understand this doesn't have anything to do with my FoS, except to highlight the bs ur trying to feed people 😂


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I say we get a CC from Vaarka then lynch Supa. 

Inb4- somebody is going to think you mean "counter-claim" by "CC" 😂. Just watch. 

I agree with this.
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@Buddamoose
"I misread"...
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I guess Supa is the obvious way to go this DP

VTL SUPA
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Unvote VTL SUpa
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@warren42
Argent outting character without any sort of prompt to do so is either townie or mafia have fake claims and their partner said they should do this.

If Argent ever flips scum at least on of their partners is an experienced player.

Argent is clearly a smart player who can think for himself
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@warren42
Agreed. Grey's reaction is good. Wylted's question on the other hand I actually find mildly concerning. How did you know that there aren't group PMs on this site? I didn't until now.
It was a big point of discussion among the mafia players when everyone started to migrate here.

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Also I'm popular. I get a lot of PM's not just the threatening PMs either
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@Greyparrot
Buddha is completely off his meta this game
I agree, but right now Supa Has so many red flags it isn't even funny

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@McSloth
Is there any chance we can come up with a summary of what we've learned so far? It's getting a bit difficult to recall everything that's been said in the chat so far. 
Just skip the first ten pages and start then. Better you participate at a level you can keep up with, than not at all.

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@Wylted
I think we shoukd get a claim from Vaarka. Still have another day on the Dp.
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@Wylted
Im not riding a buddha lynchtrain, sorry.
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@McSloth
So what's the next step in all this? Obviously accusing people of being suspicious and finding problems with their analysis of the situation isn't enough to definitively say if someone is  guilty or not. Also if I could get a little help concerning all the acronyms being used, I would greatly appreciate it. 
It's rare that you can find somebody who is definitively guilty in this game. This is similar to how minesweeper is played. Sometimes you know but mostly you just make educated guesses.

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@Greyparrot
Explain this
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@Buddamoose
As in, he had forgotten, so he didn't know, so please TR him for something easily contrivable. The point is its obviously contrived, but he has tried/is trying to pass it off like it was a genuine post.
It wasn't contrived, but I was curious if anyone would be afraid to answer the question because of what it might say about them. I genuinely did not remember, that chatzy was used in that game I failed to play. I also kinda knew that group PM's used to not be possible, but I wasn't sure thaat has improved, and if it has improved, have I just not figured out how to do it yet. I now know that group chat is still not a thing.

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@Vaarka
Can you or did you claim so we can lynch supa?
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@Aporia
I think we shoukd get a claim from Vaarka. Still have another day on the Dp
I think a claim from vaarka is unneccesary, but it seems pretty clear if it doesn't happeen neither will the lynch on supa, so I reluctently do this.

Unvote VTL Vaarka