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Yo whats yer role. Were thinking about lynching you so it would be best for you to full claim (paraphrase dont C/P).

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Town
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Townlean
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His Own Little Category Between Townlean and Null
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Everyone Else

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@Buddamoose
Budda, I dealt with your shit throughout mafia, and I dealt with the bullshit reasons. But this is outrageous bro.Ok I misread a claim by Aporia. Big deal. And now you reference the fact that I defend Ap when I susp him. Like I said, with the clarifying, I nulled him but still sus him, and the you go on a tyraid. Clear scum

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If you think I'm scum then why do you think I was the first one to scum read Supa on post #53?
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Post #247 Page 10, the post directly proceeding me outting that he was directly informed of mafia pm alternatives by me. This independent of the numerous threads, including the sign-up thread for beginners series 1.0. 1.1 being the game for which i sent him the aforementioned chatzy link.

"I remember the chatzy link now"

Again, I remember, as in he forgot so by consequence his post was him genuinely asking that question.


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Not to mention, there is no post anywhere between Aporias vote, and Supas post, that at all even hints to me having claimed. 

Secondly, wow

My BS detector didn't go off because I haven't looked at page one since I first read it

Then how are you even holding your theory to be at all accurate, when knowing whether or not there was a post that hinted i had claimed in the space of time between Aporias vote and Supas post, is crucial to that theory even being valid? 

Bruh, are you trying to make yourself look like Supas scumbuddy? 

No, I'm just being honest. A good number of the events so far aren't clear in my mind b/c I haven't gone back to reread anything. I've been rather busy today (and yesterday) so most of my time for the game is devoted to trying to catch up, meaning anything I thought before usually is no longer on my mind, and I forget events from earlier in the game. 
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I don't know if I believe this. The post was like two lines max.
You underestimate my ability to get distracted. I read that first line and immediately thought "fishy" and then mentioned that. I never went back to read the rest because, after all, it was just one more line, I already got what I saw in the post, I didn't care about the rest. 
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@Buddamoose
On one hand you just sus'd me for what requires a hyper-literal interpretation of one of my posts in isolation, on the other you are defending Supa for motives he by consequence of his attempt at excusing his percieved lazy voting, refuted? While at the same time 

Ur gonna have to excuse me if i look at that and think it's sus in its inconsistency in scope of intepretation and in how you are affording one very little benefit of the doubt, and the other are giving it, not for anything actually done or said, but rather a stretch of a potential in which you never even examined the very thing that potential is hingent upon? 

Mental gymnastics basically, while you immediately jumped to "that looks sus" in ur questioning of me.  

When did I ever say I sus'd you (no for real, if I did, show me the post)? I can see the defending Supa part but I'm also conceding that, if my scenario isn't likely, then you were right. I posed my scenario b/c I personally wasn't sure how it went down, seeing as I don't remember it and haven't gone back to check. 
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@Vader
Ok I misread a claim by Aporia

And this is too hard to believe. It was the first post of the game and you expect me to buy you thought I could have claimed previously? 

Not that gullible

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And now you reference the fact that I defend Ap when I susp him

What  does this have anything to do with you expecting us to think you legimately thought the first vote on the first post of a game was for both death and because of a claim made previously? 

It was the first post of the game 😂. Legit dude, you got sus'd for lazy voting and just dug your own grave by trying to feed people some astounding BS that requires we think you the equivalent of a rock to hold as truthful. 
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@warren42
I am aggressive because his logic is giving me a migraine.  He wants to vote me because I agree with a mafia belief and even though I misread why Aporia VTLed Budda, so then I claimed misread and was just tired. Then he VTLs me for no reason at all and gives no RFD, and I get pissed at his reaction and then uses it to bait me and say I am getting angry for no reason.

He is fucking baiting us into thinking I am scum so he can get his ways. He jumps on Ap wagon, and he started me for my lynch. Then everyone wanted to VTL me again and bet he will now hop on my wagon, watch.... Just watch

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@Vaarka
When did I ever say I sus'd you

You don't need to, asking about my actions alone establishes you viewed those actions as sus. See this is that same selective hyper-literalness I was talking about.
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@Aporia
I don't have definitive reasons for you being scum; you just seem too much like you're trying to avoid pushing anyone's buttons.

It's pointless to make the decision that you must be town because I scumread Supa without any flips to analyze.
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@Buddamoose
That is why I was confused about it because I wasn't sure ok?

And your analogy is so dumb. You literally had no reason for voting me and are just baiting my pure disbelief in the game to reel in my lynch.

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@Vader
Can you link me to a game where you were lynched, one town, one scum? Or at least give me the names of such games?
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@Buddamoose
When did I ever say I sus'd you

You don't need to, asking about my actions alone establishes you viewed those actions as sus. See this is that same selective hyper-literalness I was talking about.


Or it could mean a general curiosity of "why did you do that?" in which you could give me an answer and I would either go "oh okay" or "mmmm idk..."

Also what is "that same selective hyper-literalness"
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Your post literally has next to nothing to do with why ur being scum read at this point. You're railing, and have been railing, against strawman l. Presumably because there really isnt a way to effectively respond to the the primary reason for SR'ing you. 
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Also can someone give me a run down of pages 8-14? 
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Never have on DP1 or DP2 hombre

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@warren42
I don't have definitive reasons for you being scum; you just seem too much like you're trying to avoid pushing anyone's buttons.

Fair enough. 

It's pointless to make the decision that you must be town because I scumread Supa without any flips to analyze.

This is a townish thing to say. 
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@Vaarka
Or it could mean a general curiosity of "why did you do that?" in which you could give me an answer and I would either go "oh okay" or "mmmm idk..."

You realize you just said, "it doesn't mean I thought it waa sus, I could of just been asking it to determine whether it was sus. Which means it was sus to you. 

This is missing the point anyways. You performed straight up mental gymnastics to excuse Supas behavior, yet where were those mental gymnastic in regards to the player you asked a question of to excuse their behavior? 

For someone who likes to point out scumteams, you sure are being obtuse about what you did being a clear indicator of you and supa being scumbuddies. Look at that, another inconssitency. You've been chock full of them this game, you know that?
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Vote Count

Budda (3/7) - Wylted, Supa, Grey
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (3/7) - Budda, Warren, Aporia

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@Buddamoose
You realize you just said, "it doesn't mean I thought it waa sus, I could of just been asking it to determine whether it was sus. Which means it was sus to you. 

This is missing the point anyways. You performed straight up mental gymnastics to excuse Supas behavior, yet where were those mental gymnastic in regards to the player you asked a question of to excuse their behavior? 

For someone who likes to point out scumteams, you sure are being obtuse about what you did being a clear indicator of you and supa being scumbuddies. Look at that, another inconssitency. You've been chock full of them this game, you know that?

fkn sucks cause I don't even remember what I said half the time. On the other hand, half the stuff you say leaves me confused as to what you actually mean (as in I don't understand what you're saying). 

On the other hand, the question I asked that meant I sus'd you, what did I ask and what did you answer?
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I said on the other hand twice
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@Vaarka
b/c I personally wasn't sure how it went down, seeing as I don't remember it and haven't gone back to check

Exactly, and you hadn't gone back to check whether or not my unvote on Supa actually meant I was no longer SR'ing him, but that didn't stop you from immediately posing a suspicion regarding one post taken in isolation, hyper-literally.

You stated, "your analysis of Supa has been mostly behavioral, why did you unvote him because of a character claim." This question has loads of answers that are self-evident, so why you didn't supply one of those motives, is inconsistent with you applying a motive to dudz that wasnt even in line with his behavior and hingent upon something being true of surrounding posts, that simply was not, and also was antithetical to dudz own posts trying to explain away the original sus for lazy voting.
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@Buddamoose
You stated, "your analysis of Supa has been mostly behavioral, why did you unvote him because of a character claim." This question has loads of answers that are self-evident, so why you didn't supply one of those motives, is inconsistent with you applying a motive to dudz that wasnt even in line with his behavior and hingent upon something being true of surrounding posts, that simply was not, and also was antithetical to dudz own posts trying to explain away the original sus for lazy voting.
Oh I forgot about that

What I'm pointing out is why are you jumping off his wagon when you clearly read his behavior or logic or whatever as scummy, simply because of theme analysis, a factor that's honestly pretty unreliable until someone has died? 

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I said on the other hand twice

And you act as if that matters? You clearly presented a behavior you thought was suspicious(the behavior itself is a commonly sus'd one), and asked me about it. You can't clearly implicate and imply suspicions, then act like you totally weren't sus at all just because you never explicitly stated it. That's being hyper-literal. It is hingent upon only being able to attribute that which is explicitly stated, when you attributed a motive to Dudz that was antithetical to what was explicitly stated. 

You can't have it both ways and ur trying to have it both ways here. This isnt making you look any less sus fmpov
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@Vaarka
What I'm pointing out is why are you jumping off his wagon when you clearly read his behavior or logic or whatever as scummy, simply because of theme analysis, a factor that's honestly pretty unreliable until someone has died? 

I get that's what you are saying is why you asked the question. The point here isn't why you asked it. Why you asked it just reinforces the inconsistency in analysis, the selective application of suspicions, and the wholly different approaches you took. 

Why you even tried arguing against you clearpy sus'ing me in that post, even if not explicitly stated would be beyond me. But I get it, you"ve been busted and are doing a shotgun defense where you are just trying to refute everything I say, without understanding you are making your own posts look even more contrived by consequence 😂.
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@Buddamoose
If you're trying to sus me for saying "I said on the other hand twice" then wtf are you grabbing at
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Never have on DP1 or DP2 hombre
Ok, cool, that's not what I asked.

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Budda (3/7) - Wylted, Supa, Grey
Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (3/7) - Budda, Warren, Aporia

I want everyone to take a look at this vote count and sear it into your memory. Because this is what a "scum lead wagon v a town-lead wagon" looks like in action. Which is which requires the affiliation of vaarka and I to be revealed, but if it should, we have right here a vote count that very substantive vote count analysis can be drawn from.