Is anything perfect.

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Discuss.
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From an atheists perspective no but if you were talking someone religious for example a christian they would probably say god is perfect and has committed no sin otherwise they might say mary or jesus
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An assumed GOD, fucked a virgin without her consent and got her pregnant....Rape in human terms.

Would that constitute perfectionism?

And would Mary's sin?

And would the bastard Jesus?
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Mathematics?
1 and 1 fit perfectly into 2.
2 and 3 fit perfectly into 5 and so forth.
Exactness?
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Me.
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Imperfection can lead to perfect matches of sorts, I do believe in 'true synergy' more so than 'true love'. For instance the chemistry between Sherlock and Dr. Watson is very viable and a perfect fit. 

This stems from basics of alpha vs beta hierarchy and other things in our species' history. There really are perfect bonds and matches in life, specifically due to imperfections balancing each other out.
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Some good answers.
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I maintain that dreams are the best way to live your life. Hence, dreams are perfect.
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GOD, fucked a virgin 

This is a perfect example why lunatics should never read scripture. Actually, I never even knew anybody ever thought this until I joined forums like these and found out that there are some sick weirdos out there. 
You do know there was never any sexual intercourse involved in the tale, as well as it takes two physical bodies to have sex right? it reveals an insincere rendering of the texts.....so, either you have no fcking clue what contents are in the Bible or you're just being stupid? the whole point of the story was that it was to be a miraculous conception, not a rape case dypshyt. The other demented freak that went around the forum saying this was Bulproof, of course he's been banned for his sick behavior. 
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An assumed GOD, fucked a virgin without her consent and got her pregnant....Rape in human terms.

 It won't be the first time  gods own sons beguiled and raped human women either.
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From an atheists perspective no but if you were talking someone religious for example a christian they would probably say god is perfect and has committed no sin otherwise they might say mary or jesus
I disagree.

Your personally preferred definition of "perfect" must be explicit.
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Is anything perfect?
... ... ... ...I am?

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God is perfect
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God is perfect
PERFECT GOD = PERFECT WORLD
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lie.
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A GOD principle might  be perfect if can be achieved.

But all GOD ideas remain hypothetical.

So hypothetically perfect Doc.

Though unlikely to be the picture book GOD as seen in illustrated Christian bibles.
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HOW CAN A PERFECT GOD CREATE ANYTHING LESS THAN PERFECTLY PERFECT?
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god's perfection means that he intent to create was perfect, he EXPLICITY described the world good and not perfect in genesis when he finished creating the world
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yeah God is real zedster
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god's perfection means that he intent to create was perfect, he EXPLICITY described the world good and not perfect in genesis when he finished creating the world
What's the barrier between GOD'S "intent" and GOD'S actual (IRL) creation?
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What's the barrier between GOD'S "intent" and GOD'S actual (IRL) creation?
there is none
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What's the barrier between GOD'S "intent" and GOD'S actual (IRL) creation?
there is none
WHY DOES GOD'S PERFECT "INTENT" NOT MANIFEST AS A PERFECT WORLD?
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because free will is perfect
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because free will is perfect
HUMAN DESIRE IS BASED ON HUMAN INSTINCT
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ok.
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ok.
HUMAN INSTINCT IS THE "CAUSE" OF "SIN"

THE PERFECT GOD CREATED HUMAN INSTINCT

THE PERFECT GOD KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES OF HUMAN INSTINCT

THE PERFECT GOD FOLLOWED A PERFECT PLAN

AND EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO PERFECT GOD'S PERFECTLY PERFECT PLAN

THEREFORE, WE LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD
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@Stephen

without her consent
says who? Your sock puppet?
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What's perfect?

A line. A plane. A circle. A square. The language of mathematics. The love of God. My choice to not smoke. 
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This ignores the fact that God created all things with imperfection in order for those things to learn to be perfect by free will. Yours is the fallacy that an omnipotent God can only act by extreme omnipotence. Nope. He has free will, too.