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I care very little for gubernatorial elections outside of my state (with two exceptions this year).

Not my state, not my problem.
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I love writing stuff. If the topic is something of my interest, I can genuinely enjoy an assignment.
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How many corn kernels currently exist in the United States?
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I wonder how people react when they see stuff I post here. Do they think I'm weird?

I don't care, it's just funny to see how people view others when exposed to their random thoughts. Even in casual conversation, when peeople say something strange and then say they're "just thinking out loud."
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How likely is Sam O'Nella to disappear from YouTube again?
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@#514 "react"
I don't think you're weird, many of the thoughts are interesting,

I tried listening to Pokemon Gen 4 and 5,
But wasn't really my thing, didn't seem worth it for me to say such, at  the time.

@#509 "Morals are objective"
I flip flopped many times, thinking on it, but decided not to state my thoughts,
I decided my response was more negative than positive, 
Ans as I wasn't tagged, had no duty to respond.

@#511 "gubernatorial elections"
I wonder which state.

@#515 "Sam O'Nella"
Who? Ah, Stick figure guy, talks about events.

@#514 "react"
Eh, they react with their own thoughts, I imagine.
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Man, you seem to respond to everything here. Do you live in this thread? No offense; I just find it funny.
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Not telling you what to respond to or anything; again, I just find it funny.
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:D

Funnily enough, yes.
I tend to leave DART on a tab of my computer,
And 'do enjoy the random thought thread, as a place just to idle, speak my mind.
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Hm, I forget,
How is a person able to act in a way that they think is wrong?
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Funnily enough, yes.
Lol.

I tend to leave DART on a tab of my computer,
Same, although I have to try not to sometimes.

And 'do enjoy the random thought thread, as a place just to idle, speak my mind.
Can't argue with that.

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How is a person able to act in a way that they think is wrong?
They disregard their own morals in favor of temptation. When they are done, they cone to the realization of what they've done.
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I find that difficult to understand,

I understand that that people consider 'killing, to be wrong,
I understand that a person might kill other people to successfully rob a bank,

I Am 'Not saying that robbing a bank or killing people is moral.
(In this conversation)

. .
But onto my argument,
The individual considers killing people to be morally wrong,
Then kills some people to successfully rob a bank,

Their thought process, I imagine goes,
It's not good to kill people, but it's good to have money.
It's not good to kill people in war, but it's good to protect one's family.

In either case, a value is promoted as 'Good,

In the thought process, it is not immoral to kill and rob a bank,
Because money and self interest are good.

. . .
Hm, I'm not sure if I'm explaining this well.
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I get what you're saying. An individual uses the idea that the end justified the means, to justify their wrongs. You are correct there. However, I would say that the temptation of robbing the bank clouded their judgment, and they succumbed to immorality. By their own choice, but still.

We can both be right here.
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I'd agree, that the individual acts in a method that is wrong a constructed idea of what is moral or immoral,
As is constructed/agreed upon by a society at large,

But if the individual 'acts,
I am speaking of 'their values of what is moral or immoral, right wrong, valued more or less.
They may value not killing,
But their action would show that they valued their own comfort and wealth, 'more.

. . .

Even if people lament their actions in jail, or out,
Do their actions not show what was valued most?

Hm, but maybe this is incorrect of me,
Mind and body bit separated at times?
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Person does not want to drink, or smoke, or eat corpse,
But in end 'do drink, or smoke, or eat corpse,
. . .
Hm, but their body was not controlled by remote, brain cut off from limbs. . . 
. . .

You mention temptation clouding judgement,
Hm,
I'd agree that temptation/desire change the individuals values,
That once said temptation is fulfilled, their values might revert,

But that only applies to 'certain temptations,
Addictions for instance.

. . . .
'Does it apply to greed, self interest?
(Thinking)

'Thoughts are. . . Hm, 'are they the same as desire?
But then desire to kill, desire 'not to kill are the same, sofar in being desires,
Just a matter of which one is 'set,

And of course, humans see drugs as unnatural, shifting of values, judgement,
Should 'thoughts be 'different?

Dostoevsky had a novel, by the name Demons,
About Russian society and culture being effected by new ideas, as I recall.
. . .

Well, I ramble off topic,
I 'do agree that we could both be right,
A person becomes someone else, whether in short or long term,
Where their action is justified by themself,
Though their action may not be justified by societal norms, or their own norms, should they revert to earlier ethics.
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Of course my thought is not original,
But I was curious who in history might have spoken similar, before.

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Is there a limit to the number of posts that can be made in a thread, on DART?
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Is there a limit to the number of posts that can be made in a thread, on DART?
Probably not. This thread will have a very large number in a few years, though. I'm sure of it.
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I do not like the state of Illinois.
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I meant to tag you in Post #528.

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11 is a number that is pointed out so often when it is repeated.
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I think, but do not know,
That the politics section of the forum,
Has more likes than any other section.
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I think, but do not know,
That the politics section of the forum,
Has more likes than any other section.
Probably. Not easy to verify.
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Some forums rarely get any topic designated "hot."
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Maybe I miss them,
But the debates that ask for votes most often, 'seem like forfeit debates,
Rather than debaters wanting votes considering their 'arguments.

Which isn't 'wrong,
It's annoying to have a tie on one's record, when it feels not deserved, I imagine.
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I wonder if the people on this website, would make good material for a book?

Any community of characters does, I suppose,
One is able to see in character, action, interactions, idiosyncrasies,
Habits of life,
Of theories, viewpoints, actions, ideas,
Small patterns, one see's again in the large.
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I only need one every 6 months.
Apparently men's hair grows, on average, 1/3 inch a week. I don't know how this is possible. Mine grows, like, an inch every two months. I can normally go 3-4 months without a haircut. But usually 4 months is pushing it.
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Would be people being born naturally to be gay or transgender,
If I had a kid who was gay or transgender, would I reject them?

. . .

Of course I don't plan on having kids,
And think a fair bit of nurture goes into sexual preferences for many people, though perhaps not all.

Then again, some people are born mentally challenged, and are denied certain rights here or there,
Then again, that's a different value,
Whereas gay/transgender is more. . . Aesthetic, I suppose.

Be like rejecting or making a second class citizen, a person with some physical mutation.
Sounds 'real petty,

Well, petty, assuming one doesn't live in some Eugenic society,
And assuming that objective art standards exist,
Though really there can only be 'percentages, 'IF art values exist in humans.
'Still going to be outliers.

. . .

I suppose one could argue people with any X, be it glasses, skin, hair color, voice tone, eyes,
. . .
Hm, is it my nihilism again?

I find 'OUGHTS, difficult,
I find it easier to say 'OUGHT, if one cares about this or that,
Even if arbitrary, people care, or not.

. . .
Or I suppose an argument that could be made,
Is what if 'I was gay or transgender?

Well, I 'am various things,
Male, can't go into women's bathroom,
Male, can be drafted,
Adult, have to work for a living, pay taxes.

We all have rights, and not rights,
Of course there's a difference between being a first class citizen and 'not,
Still, I'm not rich,
Have to work for a living.

Not a part of X nation, might not accept me. 

. . .

Then there's the argument about horrors committed against gays and transgenders,
Shock therapy, sterilization, murder, forced therapy,

But that doesn't really stand 'against my nihilistic arguments,
I'd just say according to X society that would be acceptable or unacceptable,

Course all that shocking, sterilizing, murder, forced therapy,
Is unacceptable to 'my morals.

. . .

Hm, I suppose another argument, is whether the opposed don't value humans or not, freedom and what,
But I'm not sure that's really a dealbreaker,

Probably some people like having piercings,
But can't a town outlaw piercings?
Maybe not an 'American town, but town of X society.

. . .

Probably my weakest point,
Is sources,
as well as arguments that
Justify transgender for people of unusual genetics,
Or just transhumanism in the future, perhaps.
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  1. It would have been interesting, if I had been even 'more introspective in my youth, had kept journals or video interviews with myself, speaking my ideas, views, understandings, online forums that I might look at my past conversations and understandings.
  2. But my dad was a well meaning snoop, so I avoided note-booking my thoughts until an adult, also didn't have easy private access to the internet until an adult.
  3. I suppose I mention this video, as I was musing on some of my political views, and how uninformed I am on the intelligence/knowledge of younger people.
  4. Hm, oughten I make interviews with myself 'now? I'm 'still relatively young, 29 years old, hm,
  5. Some psych people are a bit overboard in the significance they lay to childhood, or 'claim happened, I suspect,
  6. But it 'does seem likely to me, that it'd be an invaluable asset to an individual, to have a clearer view of themself over time, their views changing, how or why, what still effects.

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I don't always so much want to 'only solve a puzzle 'X way,
As I am curious, how the puzzle 'is solved, whether it be only one method, or various.