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@Tarik
Are you now claiming that you unironically believe in the tooth fairy? Because if so we have a REALLY different idea of what is or is not rational.
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@secularmerlin
No, I’m saying you can’t use me as an answer when you know nothing about my answer in regards to subjects we haven’t discussed, I can know something is fictional and arrive at the conclusion a different way I know something else as fictional.
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@Tarik
The default is skepticism.
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@secularmerlin
The question is how you know?
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@Tarik
People don't believe things they haven't been convinced of. The default is skepticism.
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@secularmerlin
Saying your not convinced is different from definitively declaring something as fictional, I’m asking how do you know?
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@Tarik
Tell me when in this discussion has being careful with my language made a difference? Unless you can demonstrate hell it is fictional.
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@secularmerlin
Tell me when in this discussion has being careful with my language made a difference?
Only you can know your true intentions so how careful you are in your delivery of that isn’t up to me to know, the only thing I have access to is your words to draw from and I know if you initially argued skepticism rather than definitive fiction the response would’ve been different hence why I mentioned the difference.
Unless you can demonstrate hell it is fictional.
What makes me the end all be all in regards to fiction/nonfiction?
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@Tarik
What makes me the end all be all in regards to fiction/nonfiction?
Nothing whatever. You aren't a good source at all. You are just the one I am having the conversation with so you can EITHER demonstrate hell or WE can treat ot like a fiction.
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@secularmerlin
WE can treat ot like a fiction.
Keep that same energy when you ask me questions about it.
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@Tarik
I determine my own energy thanks just the same. So why are you so afraid to go to a place you don't even have evidence of?
Wouldn't it make more sense to be afraid go to Milwaukee? I mean at least you know Milwaukee is a real place.
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@secularmerlin
I determine my own energy thanks just the same.
Yeah well I have every right to call you out for being inconsistent, that’s what that phrase means.
So why are you so afraid to go to a place you don't even have evidence of?
Because I have faith.
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@Tarik
Yeah well I have every right to call you out for being inconsistent,
Not really. Not until you engage the conversation instead of being obdurate in its face.
So why are you so afraid to go to a place you don't even have evidence of?Because I have faith.
Why?
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@secularmerlin
Not really. Not until you engage the conversation instead of being obdurate in its face.
Just like how you determine your energy, I determine how I engage thanks just the same.
Why?
Because nihilism seems confusing and depressing to me.
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@Tarik
Because nihilism seems confusing and depressing to me.
False dichotomy. You don't have to be a nihilist or even an atheist in order to consider hell a fiction. What makes you right and budists wrong? If you just CHOSE to be a bhudist you would still not be a nihilist and you would not have to be afraid of hell.
Why aren't you a bhudist?
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@secularmerlin
You don't have to be a nihilist or even an atheist in order to consider hell a fiction.
Did I say that?
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@Tarik
You don't have to be a nihilist or even an atheist in order to consider hell a fiction.Did I say that?
You said you are afraid of hell because of nihilism. IF you don't have to be a nihilist to think hell is bunk THEN nihilism is not the real reason you are afraid of it. Bhudists are not afraid of hell and they are not nihilists so why don't you just stop believing in hell WITHOUT becoming a nihilist? What is the REAL reason?
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@secularmerlin
You said you are afraid of hell because of nihilism.
Correction, I said I’m afraid of hell because of my faith in its existence.
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@Tarik
Correction, I said I’m afraid of hell because of my faith in its existence.
Why do you have faith? You certainly don't have evidence.
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@secularmerlin
Why do you have faith? You certainly don't have evidence.
Do you know what faith is? It means in spite of evidence you believe anyway, and I already told you why I have faith.
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@Tarik
No you said it was because nihilism confuses you but nihilism doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not just stop believing in hell without becoming a nihilist?
I'll repeat that.
Why not just stop believing in hell without becoming a nihilist?
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@secularmerlin
Because that makes even less sense then nihilism.
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@Tarik
Because that makes even less sense then nihilism.
Why?
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@secularmerlin
It’s not my job to explain why something doesn’t make sense, if your the one advocating for it then you explain why it does.
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@Tarik
It’s not my job to explain why something doesn’t make sense, if your the one advocating for it then you explain why it does.
This is your philosophy not mine. I can't tell you why you something doesn't make sense to you but if you don't know I can tell you haven't thought about it enough.
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@secularmerlin
Keep that same energy when I ask you questions and you can’t answer them, I mean aren’t you that same guy that said skepticism is the default, but when I’m skeptical in regards to not believing in hell and not being a nihilist you question it, your hypocrisy is ridiculous.
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@Tarik
Why?
Why not just stop believing in hell without becoming a nihilist?
Because that makes even less sense then nihilism.
Why?
What specifically doesn't make sense here?
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@secularmerlin
Don’t ask me the same question twice.
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@Tarik
Plenty of people who are not nihilists don't believe in hell. I'm not questioning your skepticism I'm telling you the facts. Fact bhudists are not nihilists. Fact bhudists don't believe in hell.
Believing in hell or being a nihilist is a FAKSE DICHOTOMY a black and white fallacy. A logical error in your argument. A faulty leg. Your table cannot stand with faulty legs. It will just be a board on the ground.
So forget about nihilism. Skip me with that bs. Why are you REALLY afraid of aplace you can't even prove exists to yourself forcing you to imagine it is real rather than knowing?