Necessary evils

So far I've answered all your questions as best I can. I don't know any nihilists and neither do you. Maybe there are no functional nihilists only philosophical nihilists and they would have behaviors that are dictated by their biology + their circumstances. 

Nihilism is besides the point.

Well isn’t environmental factors an extension of the universe? And since the universe is so uncaring shouldn’t our environment reflect that?

It does. Our environment doesn't care about us we care about each other.

That is incorrect. We are products of an uncaring environment that survives by caring for each other. No mind was necessary for minds to develope. They developed naturally through evolution. Now that minds exist all sorts of concepts also exist but they are necessary contingent on those minds and when there aren't minds any longer the concepts also will cease to exist. 

No that is incorrect. There are a bunch of selfish, hateful, and uncaring people that are surviving just fine, so I don’t know where you got that foolish notion from.

Well not to put to fine a point on it we cooperate exactly enough. Selfishness and selflessness can both be survival traits depending on the circumstance so it makes sense that humans are capable of both.

Why do you care about your survival?

Be very clear what you are asking.

Are you asking me how natural selection favors organisms with a strong will to live or are you asking why anything evolved ever?

I’m asking specifically in regards to you, why do you care about your survival? It’s not rocket science.

Natural selection favors organisms with a strong will to survive. I am an organism. If there is any greater cause than this I do not know it. Occum's Razer would therefore suggest that we accept this fact at face value. I care about surviving because humans care about surviving which is because if they did not there wouldn't be any humans or a me. Unguided naturalistic deterministic processes. Chemistry makes biology possible. Biology is chemistry with a strong will to survive. 

...So what? Why is that a problem?

It isn't a problem for the universe only for me. It is my personal subjective problem. 

Why?

Biology + environment = behavior 

I feel like you are looking for more and there isn't any more. The world was not brought about with me in mind. I have simply adapted to the world as it is. There is no reason to assume more. It is an arrogant notion that the entire universe would be created specifically for the purpose of housing me in the skin of atmosphere clinging to a very tiny very average planet circling a completely unremarkable main sequence star. Our solar system is noteworthy only to us and only because it is ours. Every meaning is subjective. Every fact is without meaning until we put it into some subjective context.

What does your behavior have to do with why your death is a problem for you?

Death isn't a problem per se. It is the inevitable outcome of every life. My behavior includes self preservation instinct. That isn't a problem per se either just the inevitable outcome of natural selection.

Yes i remember saying this and it was imprecise perhaps. It isn't really a problem at all just something I'd rather happen later rather than sooner. That's just a general tendency organisms have.

Why?

Natural selection leads to survival instinct. 

Natural selection wouldn’t be a subject if you didn’t care about your survival, I’m asking why you care about your survival?

I don't have a better answer than biology. Humans on average would rather live and I am a human. 

We have an is here why do you keep reaching for a should? 

I neither should nor shouldn't care about my survival. I just DO care. Should and shouldn't are unimportant at the most basic level because the most basic level is that I do care at all. Let's say there is no particular reason or that we can't find one. I still DO care. Now what? 

I said nothing about should, I’m asking why? Don’t shy away from the question with the biology response because biology can’t answer for every different individual human, only you can answer for you.

Humans care about their own survival more often than not. This is unsurprising considering the mechanisms of natural selection. Anything else is subjective.

Would you finally like to have a conversation which acknowledges the necessarily subjective nature of the human experience?

Why do you care about the mechanisms of natural selection? You can try to avoid and dance all you want, I’m going to keep asking until I get a sufficient response.

I don't care about it particularly but it is the answer to the question why do we care.

Not if it has no relevance in your life, clearly you care to some degree since it has relevance in your life.

What would qualify as a sufficient answer here? Because of natural selection (an ongoing process) I care about my own survival. That doesn't mean I care about natural selection to the same degree or in the same way as I care about my personal survival and the survival of the human race.